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Bobby Summa
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facade1984
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dude I'm fuckin over social media entirely, for a myriad of reasons. also on a separate note I have a collab coming up on a 'big' label I've never released on before and I just know they're going to ask me for one of those dumbass 'promo' videos and that just is not me. I just saw one in my insta feed and it made me cringe. if and when the time comes I might just deliberately do a sarcastic one or hide a dildo somewhere in the background of my studio and burn my bridges entirely. I'm moving to australia in a few months anyway, fuck it what have I got to lose
Bobby Summa
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“What have i got to lose”
-You might loose that dildo, itl become hidden under a drum machine or ‘Groove box’.
. (Just make sure its huge and youl be ok 
) - on a serious note, burning bridges tends to be regretful for some later. Hope you make the decision thats best for you. Australia sounds fun tho!
facade1984
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i should have added that first i would need to buy a dildo but we currently have no kids therefore disposable income. i could own unlimited dildos if i wanted to. but yeah i mean i'd never do anything spiteful because that's not me, but i do wonder who these videos are for. who is buying a track off the strength of a studio promo video of some dick wearing a t-shirt with his own logo on it? probably not anybody i'd ever want to meet. am thinking of sacking trance off entirely anyway because i'm just not excited by it anymore. house and techno sparks joy, trance is way too rigid for me now“What have i got to lose”
-You might loose that dildo, itl become hidden under a drum machine or ‘Groove box’.
- on a serious note, burning bridges tends to be regretful for some later. Hope you make the decision thats best for you. Australia sounds fun tho!
Bobby Summa
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Do you mean sacking off as in, not making or not releasing? Youve probably been doing it a lot longer than me, and as i havent released quite yet, i guess i have the excitement levels still high about trance. Plus i think it has the ability to express something specific that no other genre comes close to.
But not for whether itl be release worthy or anything, but i do sometimes try just making a track i love whether anyone would consider releasing it or not. (Offcourse not finishing many tracks / arranging sufficiently etc, prevents it too in my case)
Maybe im naive but im just excited by experimentation to attemp to find a new theme or sound in Trance. I think its fine to have unrealistic dreams as-long as you know its unlikely. Doesn't put me off trying tho. I think it would be almost impossible for me personally, but i hide that fact from myself when i try to do it. ( which is most times im in my studio making trance)
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facade1984
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That's a fair question and one I'm happy to answer. I've been pretty vocal about how bored I've been by trance for a long time, almost all the guys that have become popular over the last 15 or so years really don't impress me but I've realised that it's actually just the genre as a whole that doesn't. I'm a synth nerd through and through and I've been producing since 2000 (releasing since 2007) and I've watched the sonic palette in trance gradually become more and more of a bottle neck to the point we're pretty much just down to about the same 8 sounds in every track. Yes I also realise I'm one of the prog guys but even that is starting to feel restrictive in a creative sense. The tracks I've had the most fun working on are when I do house, techno in all forms or when I'm just plain getting weird and for me that's where the expression is. I don't get any of those fuzzies from trance anymore and haven't for a long time
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I am just wondering, as you're a creative artist in complete control over your works, how can something be too rigid for you? You could, theoretically, make whatever you want?
Unless your ultimate goal is to ReLeAsE yOuR mUsIc AnD bEcOmE a Dj.
Same as above. Why just not be weird and see where it takes you? As long as it's good music, you can at least be assured we will follow and feature. Just look at Super-Frog Saves Tokyo and what he's doing. Your fella that goes by the name of Narel with his nerdy synth album is also a good example.
As you, I don't really get the "hey, you know what? let's make the same track for the 394847th time" mentality.
facade1984
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It's no sour grapes and I'm definitely not trying to sound ungrateful, I've had an ok run despite never being interested in climbing the ranks or whatever but I just don't really feel like I have many trance tracks left in me. Because I've done so many tracks that are fairly unconventional I feel like I've run out of ways to keep doing that without straying too far from trance. I'm still gonna finish my album at some point but I think I wanna do other stuff after that.
Bobby Summa
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“. The tracks I've had the most fun working on are when I do house, techno in all forms or when I'm just plain getting weird and for me that's where the expression is.”
- This from all your valuable words I think stands out with me and affirms something that a lot of unknown (but desperate to be known) artists should remember. One should optimaly be led by fun and satisfaction through expression.
Im gonna be hands down honest here, and admit that Ive too often ignored the deeper inspiration to write a complete weird Ambient piece because at times im obsessed with getting to a stage i can release Trance.
- 2 weeks ago I borrowed a Behringer 2600 a mate has who wanted me to work out how to use it. I wanted to record its sounds and get melodic with it. As i could only work little bits out, i was forced to record it amongst the evenly timed pulse it was continually sending out (i havent discovered why yet) but i just tried to integrate it as couldnt get rid of that pulse. For fun I sent the results of my recording to a net label owner Ive released free ambient music with and hadnt caught up with for a while.
- He replied, thanks, i really like that , if you like this can go on the upcoming 10th anniversary Ambient compilation, the deadline is today. ( I was gobsmacked) . He also asked do i have anything else like a part 1 (my track was labeled part 2).
- long story short. I spent the evening making another, chopping audio etc from the 2600 clone, and putting environment samples to it. Im now really exited as part 1 is opening the compilation, and part 2 is going to be the final track on the compilation.
- Sorry to go on, but apart from expressing my happiness at doing this, im trying to show or prove (to myself as much as anyone) the point i thought you were saying that our expression is best led by fun, - the whole 7 hour experience making 2 tracks was a joy. ‘Child-like fun’
- This from all your valuable words I think stands out with me and affirms something that a lot of unknown (but desperate to be known) artists should remember. One should optimaly be led by fun and satisfaction through expression.
Im gonna be hands down honest here, and admit that Ive too often ignored the deeper inspiration to write a complete weird Ambient piece because at times im obsessed with getting to a stage i can release Trance.
- 2 weeks ago I borrowed a Behringer 2600 a mate has who wanted me to work out how to use it. I wanted to record its sounds and get melodic with it. As i could only work little bits out, i was forced to record it amongst the evenly timed pulse it was continually sending out (i havent discovered why yet) but i just tried to integrate it as couldnt get rid of that pulse. For fun I sent the results of my recording to a net label owner Ive released free ambient music with and hadnt caught up with for a while.
- He replied, thanks, i really like that , if you like this can go on the upcoming 10th anniversary Ambient compilation, the deadline is today. ( I was gobsmacked) . He also asked do i have anything else like a part 1 (my track was labeled part 2).
- long story short. I spent the evening making another, chopping audio etc from the 2600 clone, and putting environment samples to it. Im now really exited as part 1 is opening the compilation, and part 2 is going to be the final track on the compilation.
- Sorry to go on, but apart from expressing my happiness at doing this, im trying to show or prove (to myself as much as anyone) the point i thought you were saying that our expression is best led by fun, - the whole 7 hour experience making 2 tracks was a joy. ‘Child-like fun’
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