(And) Paul Oakenfold’s Perfecto Records joins forces with Armada Music!

[thanos]

Source: http://www.armadamusic.com/news/2010/09/paul-oakenfolds-perfecto-records-and-armada-music-join-forces/


Perfecto Records, the UK record label of Paul Oakenfold, has joined forces with Armada Music.

Perfecto was set up by UK producer/DJ Paul Oakenfold in 1989, as the young dance movement was just coming up in Europe. Aim of the label was to find new talent and encourage them, rather than pressuring them to produce for commercial purposes. Oakenfold, who was nominated for a ‘Best Electronic/Dance Album’ Grammy twice and whose 2004 mix album ‘Another World’ has turned into one of the biggest selling dance albums of all time, felt it was the right time to start a collaboration with Armada Music. Paul:”I’m really happy to be involved in this joint venture with Armada. I think they are one of the most cutting edge electronic labels out there and I look forward to a fruitful relationship.”

Perfecto Records and Armada Music are both looking forward to working together. The first release after the joint venture will be the new Paul Oakenfold single, ‘Firefly’, a collaboration with UK singer Matt Goss, who used to be the lead singer of 80’s pop group Bros. (‘When Will I Be Famous’). Following ‘Firefly’, are releases by Robert Vadney and Kenneth Thomas, as well as a Perfecto Mix Compilation and Perfecto Classics album.

For more info, check www.perfectorecords.com (http://www.perfectorecords.com/). For an exclusive promo version of ‘Firefly’, check YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpUCREpGuAw).
Who's next ? :icon_lol:

[asteski]

Paul Oakenfold, PvD and Armin worked on a track together for a Love Parade tribute. Release date is 10th September.

[Hilander]

Source: http://www.armadamusic.com/news/2010/09/paul-oakenfolds-perfecto-records-and-armada-music-join-forces/

Who's next ? :icon_lol:



I have a few suggestions:
Mondo Recordings
Perceptive Recordings
Alter Ego

[FinishingMove]

=>Armada music buys Virgin records.
=>Google buys Armada.
=>Google buys everything else.
=>Google kills all Jedi and rules the universe.

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[Euforix]

Smells like money! :D

[Kole]

Nothing spectacular imo. Anjunabeats and Discover we are with youuuuu!

[PegaSus]

Such a shame! How the hell did this happen? :(

[DarioTamena]

I have a few suggestions:
Mondo Recordings
Perceptive Recordings
Alter Ego

Mondo maybe. Perceptive and Alter Ego cannot be.

[Hilander]

Mondo maybe. Perceptive and Alter Ego cannot be.

Thats what i think too .. Perceptive & Alter Ego can do just fine by themself. But Mondo hasnt been doing great lately, so Armada will proberly soon step forth and take them under their wings .. lets see

[SOLARSTONE]

Nothing spectacular imo. Anjunabeats and Discover we are with youuuuu!

Anjunabeats sucks as well as Armada.

I'd say:

Perceptive, Enhanced, Discover, Unearthed, Liquid & Reset!!! :bg:

[deamon]

Liquid & Reset are Spinnin btw :)

[Nemezijus]

Liquid & Reset are Spinnin btw :)

they are also Rockin'

[AustralianGQ]

ill bet vandit and anjunabeats will be next for armada.

[asteski]

ill bet vandit and anjunabeats will be next for armada.

Vandit is already in Armada. ;)

[Hilander]

hehe yeah, vandit was taken over just before Perfecto .. But labels like Anjunabeats, Enhanced, Perceptive & Spinnin' is handling themself prity good by themself, so they have no reason to let Armada in. Labels like Unearthed & Blue Soho isnt big enough yet, for Armada to want them, and frankly they are handling themself good enough by themself.

I can only see Mondo and perhaps Alter Ego as potential for a Armada takeover.

In my opinion, for some labels, its great they got taken over by Armada. For example FSOE. They were unfair slow on releases before Armada. But now they are picking up the pace. And thats good for us and the artists waiting to get their stuff released.

[deamon]

It is slightly naive - to think that artists of a upcoming Armada sublabels immediately began to write commercial things.
I've hears lots of 'RIP FSOE' after A&F label joined Armada and look what's changed to this label? Nothing, just faster releases and this is not bad. And they probably getting more money from their releases now. So what's bad here?

I also curious about upcoming Vadney's and Thomas' releases on Perfecto.

[KrisA]

absolutely agree deamon. people are taking out of there arse. the record industry is on its knees which is why we see these mergers. and yeah, now FSOE records are being distributed right on time in all stores and yes, selling better too. win if you ask me. i think this will be a major win for perfecto too!

and I really really hope they will release that back catalog!!

[DJ Latsi]

Cheese-rmada is the new name!

[Hilander]

Just looking forward to that Suncatcher & Pizz@dox tune on FSOE .. hopefully very soon. Been played first time on ASOT like 10 month ago

[Kole]

Anjunabeats sucks as well as Armada.

I'd say:

Perceptive, Enhanced, Discover, Unearthed, Liquid & Reset!!! :bg:

I used Anjunabeats just because it's indi label. Don't like them as well.

[deamon]

Flashover could join armada in my opinion

[FinishingMove]

It is slightly naive - to think that artists of a upcoming Armada sublabels immediately began to write commercial things.
I've hears lots of 'RIP FSOE' after A&F label joined Armada and look what's changed to this label? Nothing, just faster releases and this is not bad. And they probably getting more money from their releases now. So what's bad here?

I also curious about upcoming Vadney's and Thomas' releases on Perfecto.

It's slightly naive to believe that Armada is buying these labels out of humanitarian reasons.

They have their terms, if it means mass production or something else, the impact will definitely be on the quality of the music.

FSOE is a bad example since they've always been generic.

[KrisA]

It's slightly naive to believe that Armada is buying these labels out of humanitarian reasons.

What does this have to do with anything?

[PegaSus]

It is slightly naive - to think that artists of a upcoming Armada sublabels immediately began to write commercial things.
I've hears lots of 'RIP FSOE' after A&F label joined Armada and look what's changed to this label? Nothing, just faster releases and this is not bad. And they probably getting more money from their releases now. So what's bad here?

I also curious about upcoming Vadney's and Thomas' releases on Perfecto.

If only Armada is responsible for the distribution of the releases it's fine, but i'm guessing they will have a hold on what and who is getting signed. FSOE is still in Aly&Fila's hands, but what is Armada's part in it exactly?

[FinishingMove]

What does this have to do with anything?

Too lazy to read a whole post, are we?

[^JASON]

Enhanced and Spinnin' is the two labels releasing quality stuff. If they stay out of armada im happy.

Too bad Subculture had to go armada :(

[KrisA]

Too lazy to read a whole post, are we?

No. You just said that, as if someone was speaking of Armada as some savior. Obviously they are doing it to grow their business. I think that is very clear to everyone.

But yeh, let's hope it doesn't affect the quality (not that I ever liked Perfecto very much).

[Hilander]

If only Armada is responsible for the distribution of the releases it's fine, but i'm guessing they will have a hold on what and who is getting signed. FSOE is still in Aly&Fila's hands, but what is Armada's part in it exactly?

Armada's part is to take care of distribution, and lets face it, thats what they do best. In return they get a percentage of the income. The owner of the sublabel is free to sign whoever they want, as long as the sales are reasonable.

Another good thing is that these sublabels of armada now has easier and cheaper access to remixers from other sublabels, which can make releases reach a wider audience

[FinishingMove]

But then again, having all those producers piled up will surely kill the diversity. If Armada (or any other label, for that matter) runs monopoly on 'trance' , that alone is enough to kill the quality.

Reaching a wider audience? When has that done any good?..

If you ask me, trance is dying because of AvB's mainstream success in the last years.

[SOLARSTONE]

Too bad Subculture had to go armada :(

That's not shocking since John O'Callaghan has always been with Armada, I'll be shocked if he actually had not joined to Armada.

[Misterico]

If you ask me, trance is dying because of AvB's mainstream success in the last years.


thats hardly an argument, more like 25% of an argument

[SOLARSTONE]

If you ask me, trance is dying because of AvB's mainstream success in the last years.

Not at all. Armin doesnt mean trance necessarily as he actually is moving to other genres. :hyp:

Also there are plenty of good producers on the scene so please stop saying trance is dying. Armin is not the universal concept of trance as he barely still producing trance tunes these days.

[thijsje]

Not at all. Armin doesnt mean trance necessarily as he actually is moving to other genres. :hyp:

But Armin is popular because of A State Of Trance.
So he should retitle it to "A State Of Widestream Track Foolage" ? *





* Also known as A State Of WTF

[FinishingMove]

Exactly, thijsje. Couldn't have said it better myself.

He's pushing stuff through ASOT and labeling it 'trance'.

[Misterico]

But Armin is popular because of A State Of Trance.
So he should retitle it to "A State Of Widestream Track Foolage" ? *





* Also known as A State Of WTF

last 6 episodes apart from Mirage Special have showed how miles ahead of others this show CAN BE and how it once was. So the wide acknowledgement he has received because of ASOT is justified clearly.

[DavidNeezy]

Had enough of Armada. Spinnin' & Recoverworld owns. :)

[FinishingMove]

last 6 episodes apart from Mirage Special have showed how miles ahead of others this show CAN BE and how it once was. So the wide acknowledgement he has received because of ASOT is justified clearly.

you don't get it, obviously.

[Misterico]

you don't get it, obviously.

where does you saying "you dont get it, obviously" lead us?
What would happen if everyone started to communicate with one-liners...

taking a random recent episode of ASOT, lets see

lets take 472

Sneijder – Away From Here (Arty Remix) [Vandit] - progressive trance? want to argue? go ahead
First State ft. Relyk - Cross The Line (Club Mix) [Black Hole] - vocal progressive trance, has all the trance elements necessary
Shipstad & Warren - Eighty-Seven Years (Thom V Remix) [Smu[th] Digital] - progressive trance, albeit with a hint of a recycled melody (Anjunabeats anyone?)
Yuri Kane feat Melissa Loretta - Daylight [Flashover] - progressive trance, unarguable
Walsh & McAuley - Only Human (Jonas Steur remix) - same
Shaun Gregory & Ross Anderson - Foundation (Maor Levi Weekend Mix) [Vision Deep] - same
Cressida & Reminder - Lucid (Juicy Mix) [Afterglow] - same
Leon Bolier feat Joint Operation Center - Off Road [From the album 'Phantasma'] [Spinnin] - same
Roger Shah & Signum - Ancient World (Signum Mix) [Magic Island] - same, with a hint of car alarm sound, but many trance tracks have it nowadays
Elias B - Polar Ice (Adam Nickey Remix) [Blue Soho] - anjunabeatsish, but still trance
TUNE OF THE WEEK: Snatt & Vix vs. In Progress - Sunride (Ronski Speed Remix) - progressive trance
Maor Levi feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Chasing Love (Maor Levi’s Club Mix) [Anjunabeats] - progressive trance
Shogun feat. Emma Lock - Run To My Rescue [S107] - cheesy, but still has all progressive trance elements
Mr.Pit - Sky Traffic [Coldharbour Recordings] - progressive trance
Bartlett Bros. present Andrea Faustinelli - Artika (MIKE’s Progressiva Remix) [Black Hole] - progressive
Arnej - The Day Will Come (Sied van Riel Remix) [Armind] - progressive
Ernesto vs Bastian - Hyper Globe (Alternative Mix) [Captivating Sounds] - car alarmish, but definitely not house or minimal or whatever
FUTURE FAVORITE: Vast Vision Feat. Fisher - Behind Your Smile (Suncatcher Remix) [Enhanced] - mass culture trance
Jorn van Deynhoven & Manuel Le Saux - Nardo (Jorn van Deynhoven Mix) [ASOT] - dark trance
Bryan Kearney - Goosebumps [Subculture] - traditional trance
Leon Bolier - I Close My Eyes [from the album 'Phantasma'] [Spinnin] - awesome trance
PPK vs. Bobina - ResuRection 2010 - arguable, but he played it for other reasons
23. ASOT Radio Classic: Plastic Boy – Silver Bath [Banshee] - my question is, does trance only mean the sound of 1995-2004 for you? another question - show me a trance radio show that plays the newest stuff every week AND that plays tracks only 1 time for 95% of the time (GDJB, Manuel le Saux, TATW, Magic Island instantly disqualify)

ASOT 472 - TRANCE

try me with another episode, go ahead

[asteski]

If I had to listen to pure trance from 90's to 2002 till this day, I would be puking with that music already. Music needs to be refreshed, instead it will became boring and uninnovative. I don't need new oldie-sounding trance epic tracks, classics are enough for me because they are unbeatable.

[cheer_up]

I agree with Misterico, ASOTs are full of trance tracks + actually some really good ones.. episode #471 was the 1st one I listened to after a long period of ignoring and I was like 'wow, Armin plays trance' ... :1

[thijsje]

I agree with Misterico, ASOTs are full of trance tracks + actually some really good ones.. episode #471 was the 1st one I listened to after a long period of ignoring and I was like 'wow, Armin plays trance' ... :1

I don't think it's a discussion about what's trance and does armin play trance. It's about the thing that armin/armada/trance is not reaching the expectations of the crowd anymore, which is happening for a longer period already.

The thing is that there's too much armin/armada, and not much alternatives that show us a lot of quality tracks with such a quality without walking after someone else.

[FinishingMove]

where does you saying "you dont get it, obviously" lead us?
What would happen if everyone started to communicate with one-liners...

taking a random recent episode of ASOT, lets see

lets take 472

Sneijder – Away From Here (Arty Remix) [Vandit] - progressive trance? want to argue? go ahead
First State ft. Relyk - Cross The Line (Club Mix) [Black Hole] - vocal progressive trance, has all the trance elements necessary
Shipstad & Warren - Eighty-Seven Years (Thom V Remix) [Smu[th] Digital] - progressive trance, albeit with a hint of a recycled melody (Anjunabeats anyone?)
Yuri Kane feat Melissa Loretta - Daylight [Flashover] - progressive trance, unarguable
Walsh & McAuley - Only Human (Jonas Steur remix) - same
Shaun Gregory & Ross Anderson - Foundation (Maor Levi Weekend Mix) [Vision Deep] - same
Cressida & Reminder - Lucid (Juicy Mix) [Afterglow] - same
Leon Bolier feat Joint Operation Center - Off Road [From the album 'Phantasma'] [Spinnin] - same
Roger Shah & Signum - Ancient World (Signum Mix) [Magic Island] - same, with a hint of car alarm sound, but many trance tracks have it nowadays
Elias B - Polar Ice (Adam Nickey Remix) [Blue Soho] - anjunabeatsish, but still trance
TUNE OF THE WEEK: Snatt & Vix vs. In Progress - Sunride (Ronski Speed Remix) - progressive trance
Maor Levi feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Chasing Love (Maor Levi’s Club Mix) [Anjunabeats] - progressive trance
Shogun feat. Emma Lock - Run To My Rescue [S107] - cheesy, but still has all progressive trance elements
Mr.Pit - Sky Traffic [Coldharbour Recordings] - progressive trance
Bartlett Bros. present Andrea Faustinelli - Artika (MIKE’s Progressiva Remix) [Black Hole] - progressive
Arnej - The Day Will Come (Sied van Riel Remix) [Armind] - progressive
Ernesto vs Bastian - Hyper Globe (Alternative Mix) [Captivating Sounds] - car alarmish, but definitely not house or minimal or whatever
FUTURE FAVORITE: Vast Vision Feat. Fisher - Behind Your Smile (Suncatcher Remix) [Enhanced] - mass culture trance
Jorn van Deynhoven & Manuel Le Saux - Nardo (Jorn van Deynhoven Mix) [ASOT] - dark trance
Bryan Kearney - Goosebumps [Subculture] - traditional trance
Leon Bolier - I Close My Eyes [from the album 'Phantasma'] [Spinnin] - awesome trance
PPK vs. Bobina - ResuRection 2010 - arguable, but he played it for other reasons
23. ASOT Radio Classic: Plastic Boy – Silver Bath [Banshee] - my question is, does trance only mean the sound of 1995-2004 for you? another question - show me a trance radio show that plays the newest stuff every week AND that plays tracks only 1 time for 95% of the time (GDJB, Manuel le Saux, TATW, Magic Island instantly disqualify)

ASOT 472 - TRANCE

try me with another episode, go ahead

You just proved my point.

ASOT is setting standards for what trance music should look like today. If you follow it, consider that music good just because you are used to it, then no problem, you don't know what you're missing out on. /wave

[Misterico]

You just proved my point.

ASOT is setting standards for what trance music should look like today. If you follow it, consider that music good just because you are used to it, then no problem, you don't know what you're missing out on. /wave

thank you for answering my questions loud and clear :)
I have a much better impression of you now

edit: oh and Im listening to almost every trance show there is (or at least browsing through the websites for my monthly top trance tracks).. ASOT is not as bad as you make it look to be. In fact, it is the best, despite what people say



I don't think it's a discussion about what's trance and does armin play trance. It's about the thing that armin/armada/trance is not reaching the expectations of the crowd anymore, which is happening for a longer period already.

The thing is that there's too much armin/armada, and not much alternatives that show us a lot of quality tracks with such a quality without walking after someone else.

you does not equal the crowd you are speaking of. If something goes through an evolution it has a reason. This sort of thing ALWAYS has dissidents. It is a characteristic that often goes unmentioned, but there cannot be an evolution without dissidents aka opponents. ASOT has more than 20 times the listeners than every other radio show. Armada is more than 20 times ahead of other labels, both in terms of number of releases and profitability. This number has never been that high and it will continue to grow larger, larger and larger. Therefore - Armin, Armada and trance IS reaching the expectations of the crowd, persistently. Hell, during ASOT, thousands of people tweet and retweet with each other with the #ASOT tag. Do you know another radio show with broadcasts in more than 20 worldwide stations? With more than 10 million listenings per week? This is the show that gets people to listen trance, and if it sucked, this wouldnt happen.
Go back to listening the 1995-2004 trance sound you yearn for, if ASOT does not satisfy you. It has been the most consistent radio show since 2001 and has been becoming more popular ever since.

You laid on the table the arguments you took from I dont have the slightest imagination where, but it seems to be the case of you trying so hard to look like a member of high culture, when actually high culture just doesnt have any antidote, medication, spell, weapon against mass culture.

My prediction: ASOT will only get bigger and bigger.
Thanks.

[thijsje]

you does not equal the crowd you are speaking of. If something goes through an evolution it has a reason. This sort of thing ALWAYS has dissidents. Thanks.

I = not the crowd. But There are a lot of peepz complaining about it (read the topics here at the forum and also other forums). Not only about ASOT, but about the trance scene in general.
Trance is getting too standardized, and it will getting more and more standardized with merging these labels.

[Misterico]

I = not the crowd. But There are a lot of peepz complaining about it (read the topics here at the forum and also other forums). Not only about ASOT, but about the trance scene in general.
Trance is getting too standardized, and it will getting more and more standardized with merging these labels.

you do acknowledge the fact that only a tiny minority of ASOT listeners has actually a forum account on whatever trance forums? Only the tiny minority is conversing about the show (generally bashing) during the show on Thursdays. Its like that with everything on the Internet. So you cannot base your opinions on what is being spoken on the Internet.

At peak times, close to 100 people chat (or just idle in the forums :p) during ASOT (during Mirage Special it was 213 if Im not mistaken) on DI.FM and close to 10,000 listen to it. 90% or more of ASOT listener base comes from FM radios around the world (you can find the list on trance.nu and astateoftrance.com too I think) How many users does this forum have? I bet its over 1000, but thats a very little number (for an internet forum and for a trance forum per se it is not small, but in the context of the WORLD it is).

Forgive me if I am coming across as despotic, but generally the forum readers have a very elitist taste and whatever does not fit between their PRAISED taste borders, gets trashed and labeled "not trance". IF, and IF every ASOT listener were to be asked their opinion about the show, I am overly sure it would yield extremely positive results for Armada and Armin.. (it wouldnt have such gigantic loyal listenership without it)

you have to think about others individually, NOT connect others taste with your taste. Its the thing about being objective. It is hard, because it involves going through the process of what YOU think, therefore involving at least a tiny bit of being subjective :)

I agree with you about the standardized part, but would be naive to think this wouldnt be occurring without ASOT or Armada.
My two cents


edit: one another thing about ASOT, that doesnt touch the subject. Even if the choice of tracks sometimes sucks, as a rule of thumb it always plays the BOMBS (dancefloor bombs, uplifting bombs, and of course vocal bombs) so if one had every episode of ASOT since the beginning, he wouldnt be missing any dancefloor striker.. or must-haves, shall we say :p

[cheer_up]

I don't think it's a discussion about what's trance and does armin play trance.
that was my reply to your 'a state of wtf' and to

He's pushing stuff through ASOT and labeling it 'trance'.
even though this is a discussion about one label joining another, not about asot
;)