AI, procedural generation and other new music technologies - What does the future of music hold?

[Magdelayna]

So how many pretend trance producers will come out of the woodwork now using this AI haha?!

 

[Jetflag]

So how many pretend trance producers will come out of the woodwork now using this AI haha?!

 

[Recharge]

Gawd dam @Hensmon this is scary

And now @marvas adds to it:


This sound better than most of my tracks even the ones where I mostly sample most of it or spend ridiculous amount of time.

Edit: Comparing to the song I just finished I am actually feeling my song sounds more robotic than the AI generated music lol

GG AI you win this round

 

[Progrez]

Cold Fusion talked about both Udio and Suno

 

[Progrez]

So how many pretend trance producers will come out of the woodwork now using this AI haha?!

I have to say it created a track which sounded better than Armin Destination track. But a part of me also wants to know how to make tracks like this in real life as well.

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[nightslapper]

so far what I've heard from AI generated music were of a pretty low technical quality, I mean it's very far from major label hits in terms of mixdowns, mastering (if there's any in the AI stuff), etc. The samples used are often noticeably cheap and don't fit the composition.

Another point already discussed here is that it's all utterly unoriginal which is natural for a rehash, which is basically what any AI generator does to generate its output.

So yeah it's still far from affecting real money makers in the music industry.

 

[Recharge]

so far what I've heard from AI generated music were of a pretty low technical quality, I mean it's very far from major label hits in terms of mixdowns, mastering (if there's any in the AI stuff), etc. The samples used are often noticeably cheap and don't fit the composition.

Another point already discussed here is that it's all utterly unoriginal which is natural for a rehash, which is basically what any AI generator does to generate its output.

So yeah it's still far from affecting real money makers in the music industry.

Didn't just Tupac family took down a song with AI version of him from Drake. So much for not reaching big labels.

On the other hand you are right only very big artists and very small ones will be victimized by AI.

Big name artists that have passed away for obvious reasons.

As for smaller artists... There is already places like supermarkets choosing to play AI music instead of paying for licenses for music. This is a huge blow for smaller and indie artists where another form of revenues is slowly going away. Its bad enough what streaming services like Spotify are doing to them. There is no longer any incentive apart wanting to learn and make music basically.

On the other hand how do you think new artist are going to feel when they are starting and being compared to AI music. There is truly potential for a very bleak future for the music industry.

With that said we are talking by music entirely generated by AI which is the problem here. I believe there will be regulations put in place in the future.

Smaller things like AI copying samples and evolving them for example, will take sampling on another level. There is also a huge potential when it comes to AI helping producers with randomly generated ideas.

Arpeggiators come in mind because lets face it there are some artist speaking against AI, but they use randomisers and arpeggiators, they copy other artist work (Harder not do it actually) and then they speak against AI for doing the same.

One thing is certain AI will play a big role in music...

 

[nightslapper]

This is a huge blow for smaller and indie artists where another form of revenues is slowly going away. Its bad enough what streaming services like Spotify are doing to them.

isn't it how it slowly goes towards monopolizing in any business?

the gap between the artists making it from their music (mostly from touring but music still plays its role there) and the others is already too big, same for the labels, only Armada, Black Hole and Anjuna remain kinda 'big' on trance scene and, you like the tunes or not, most of the time (except for shit that's not about music at all like that recent Oakey & Cox collab) their releases do sound on another level compared to what's coming on mid/low range labels. Artists need expensive equipment to make stuff sound really good, and with the tiny revenue from the smaller labels releases they sure won't be spending their day job savings on that for too long, especially over time when one gets family to take care of. so the AI would offer these guys making a technically average stuff, guess, with the AI development, more or less of the same level they'd come up themselves but just with a quick prompt instead of hours of starring in their DAWs. Believe me a lot of them still believe in short cuts and want everything right now, so they'll use AI and generate dozens of tracks and will spam them to dozens of labels.

Essentially it will lead to label demo emails becoming obsolete and each label will tend only to keep working with the artist that already proven himself for the label with previous releases. That's already happening though for different reasons.

 

[Recharge]

isn't it how it slowly goes towards monopolizing in any business?

the gap between the artists making it from their music (mostly from touring but music still plays its role there) and the others is already too big, same for the labels, only Armada, Black Hole and Anjuna remain kinda 'big' on trance scene and, you like the tunes or not, most of the time (except for shit that's not about music at all like that recent Oakey & Cox collab) their releases do sound on another level compared to what's coming on mid/low range labels. Artists need expensive equipment to make stuff sound really good, and with the tiny revenue from the smaller labels releases they sure won't be spending their day job savings on that for too long, especially over time when one gets family to take care of. so the AI would offer these guys making a technically average stuff, guess, with the AI development, more or less of the same level they'd come up themselves but just with a quick prompt instead of hours of starring in their DAWs. Believe me a lot of them still believe in short cuts and want everything right now, so they'll use AI and generate dozens of tracks and will spam them to dozens of labels.

Essentially it will lead to label demo emails becoming obsolete and each label will tend only to keep working with the artist that already proven himself for the label with previous releases. That's already happening though for different reasons.

I mean I believe in shortcuts for the past year I used a ton of samples way more than when I started. But AI seems a bit cheat-y. I would be ok with using AI for sampling or even making samples. I do love playing with synths and twisting knobs (even if they are virtual ones). Still seems it will impact more purist producers I think.

I don't think I have the right to say anything, I've been using AI to make album/song covers for almost an year. Mostly this one:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/0CTXwgy39gWpvgNWqdFj?ru=2UPl5a5pVgeMsdIS37ufegfTu8w1

And here is the song in question, the cover was done in a minute or two from a text prompt. Many people do not realise the impact AI had on many artistical jobs. In my case I wouldn't go to graphic designer anyways since I am not making a dime from music atm. Just loosing a ton of money and time I guess

https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fdj-recharge-friday