Classic Trance Database [100%] & Classic Trance Curated Database [10%] - Last updated on May 6th

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Update #9 (2024. April 17th):

- Visual changes to achieve unified design accross all pages
- Changed some tracks' Curator's Rating
- Minor wording changes
- Added information to the Home page regarding icons and the evaluation of tunes
- Added all 2540 tracks from Trance Classics and 2trancecentral YouTube channels to the Alternate curation
- Added 5 new tracks (these are listed below)

Tracks added:

1. Jens Lissat - The Future
2. Mo-Tune - Infinite Climax (Remix)
3. Paul Van Dyk - A Love Letter
4. Micro Cosmos - Cosmic Trax
5. Lotus Eye - Enchanted (Komatex Remix)
 
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Update #10 (2024. April 30th):

With the release of the 10th update to the database, I can now say that I listened to all classic trance tunes from 1993 and from 1994. This represents around 15,000 tracks, or roughly 10% of all the tracks I have to listen to (150,000).



This is a big update. I overhauled the whole Weighted Rating system, and I believe that after countless of iterations, I finally managed to find something that presents a reliable framework to properly rate and evaluate music, and also gives results based on the inserted values that are in line with my objective and subjective expectations.

For the more curious, this means the following:
  • No track in the curated selection goes below 70% (broadly speaking, this is similar to iMDB pre-2010: only the best movies reached a score of 7.0 or above, thanks to their weighted rating system)
  • A track's emotional and melodic components play a significant role in the weighted rating formula
  • Tunes that represent the artistic peak of trance music can reach a score exceeding 95%
  • For the most part, the Curator's Rating (which is also a part of the Weighted Rating) provides a very similar value compared to the average of the other subratings
  • Ideally, each subratings' dominance is the equation is well balanced, and roughly equal to their real world importance (so to what extent they matter when listening to a piece of music)
  • All of the above things happen in paralell



Of course, it's not just the equation that was changed, but also what is used in the equation. Melody & Emotion got seperated into two distinct categories: Melody & Memorability and Emotional Impact. Furthermore, Harmony & Depth got renamed to Diversity & Depth and I clarified it a little bit to make it clear how it differs compared to Structure & Arrangement, which I also tweaked a little bit. All the other stuff is there as before, including Technical Quality, but right now, it's not taken into account when calculating a tune's overall rating.

The final formula looks like this:
  • Curator's Rating = 50%
  • YouTube Rating = 25%
  • Discogs Rating = 7.5%
  • Impact & Recognition = 1.25%
  • Originality & Innovation = 1.25%
  • Melody & Memorability = 5%
  • Emotional Intensity = 5%
  • Diversity & Depth = 2.5%
  • Structure & Arrangement = 2.5%
  • Technical Quality = 0% currently



With these percentages, every goal I pointed out above gets met, but if you want to understand this formula even better, here's some additional information.

I wanted the Curator's Rating to be a really dominant part in the equation. The Curator's Rating primarily represents the overall enjoyment level of the track based on my own taste, knowledge, and experience with the genre. This is one of the key ways how this database can become more than just a simple popularity list that can change day by day. A list that can give the same level of attention and recognition to tunes, practically regardless of their popularity. Hence, 50% dominance makes sense.

At the same time, I also wanted to involve the community in some way and give room to their opinions, hence, I tried to utilize every worthwhile data that is available to me from the community's side. Obviously, that's why I used data from YouTube and Discogs, where there's lots of music-related data in the form of star ratings or likes and dislikes. YouTube Ratings account for half (so 25%) of my Curator's Rating, while Discogs Rating is 7.5%. On Discogs, you can't rate individual tracks, only whole singles/albums, and typically, a vinyl album houses 3.3 tracks on average. So it makes sense that Discogs Rating's dominance is only around 1/3 of YouTube Rating (which is for an individual track).

As for the other subratings: I wanted to rate tracks on a more granular level. This granularity can help to:
  • Understand tunes better
  • Recognize which tunes excel in which parts
  • Slightly differentiate otherwise equally rated tunes (e.g. two 3.5-star tunes), which will be useful in creating a score-based toplist
Obviously, a tune's originality or impact has little to do with how good it actually is, so these criteria (Impact & Recognition, Originality & Innovation) only account for a fraction of the total score (1.25% each). At the same time, they still help to make the rating more granular and possibly more precise, without getting ahead of tunes that for example have better structure or better complexity - things that arguably matter more in a track. This means that Diversity & Depth and Structure & Arrangement each account for 2.5% of a tune's score. Finally, what matters the most is Melody & Memorability and Emotional Intensity that each account for 5% of the total score.



Of course, aside from overhauling the entire rating system, new tunes have been added as well which you can see here:
  1. Ultimate - Automatic (Original Mix)
  2. Spacewalker - Tenerife Dream
  3. Odyssey Of Noises - Firedance (The Sunrise)
  4. Trance Team - Wake Up (Trance Mix)
  5. Trance Team - Breath Of Life (The Force)
  6. Scooter - Back In Time
  7. B-Flame - Tochluaney


I'm still trying to finalize 1994 (including tune selections and filling up the remaining ratings) and I still have to listen to all the compilation albums from this year. Furthermore, I need to create the Community curation and change some things in the Adjacent database. So the next update will more than likely still focus on 1993 and 1994.
 
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Update #11 (2024. May 6th):

1. The Year column has been replaced with the Date column. When possible, it shows the exact date when the given tune was first released, instead of just its release year. Some dates are precise, as they are based on Discogs, Wikipedia, Beatport, and other sources, while some are less so as they are estimates based on information gathered from labels and compilation albums.

2. The Impact & Recognition subrating got finalized and all tracks have been rescored accordingly. This criteria primarily measures how influential and popular a track was among the trance community and the general audience at the time of its release, and whether it has a lasting legacy or a cult following. Similar to YouTube Ratings and Discogs Ratings, Impact & Recognition is also completely based on data and tries to provide an objective measurement of each track's overall success. This is based on the average of two things: how many views a track collectively has on YouTube (based on all/nearly all uploaded videos) and on how many times it was picked up for compilation albums (with duplicate/alternate releases excluded, of course).

Tunes that have total views between 0k-30k, 30k-90k, 90k-270k, 270k-810k, and above 810k, get 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 stars for their views, respectively. As for the number of releases on compilation albums, the scoring looks like this: 1 star for 0-2 releases, 2 stars for 3-6, 3 stars for 7-18, 4 stars for 19-54, and 5 stars for more than 54 releases. This basically means there's a 3x multiplier that divides each star rating in each category, and based on the currently available data, the mentioned breaking points and multipliers work very well (so most of the tunes are rated at 1 star, a little less at 2 stars, etc.). For example, Amorph - Meryn has 32000 views on YouTube, so it gets 2 stars for views. It has only been released on one compilation album, so it gets a 1 for this category. (2+1)/2 equals 1.5, so the overall Impact & Recognition score will be 1.5.

3. The Weighted Rating and the Curator's Rating (under the Main Ratings section) are now color-coded with the same colors used in the DJ/Mix section. The color changes between every 2.5 percentages, or every 0.25 stars.

4. Some descriptions and ratings have been corrected and/or adjusted.

5. It looks like the subratings still need some improvement so I tweaked them further. Some subratings are final now (both their type/description and their score) and some are not. Expect further changes in the future.
 
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I can smell some ocd here, hope I'm wrong and it's just strong passion for classic trance

First of all:
OCD stands for Obsessive-compulsive disorder, in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

I don't know in what way this terminology/disorder could be applied to my involvment with this database, it literally makes zero sense to me. This database is clearly a passion-driven project with lots of variety involved (in terms of content, design, structure, etc.). Repetition can't even be a goal here, only an occasionally byproduct of the process of making the database, when I'm perhaps going through too many bad music, or have to calculate a lot.

OCD would be if I would feel the need to touch objects a certain amount of times, or put my shoes to somewhere the same way as others, etc. By the way, most living people around the world have some level of OCD, possibly including you.

Second:
I assume you have some basic common sense, thus, I assume you quickly/easily realised based on the amount of information provided in each database, that it must have taken a huge amount of work/effort. You don't have to thank me, congratulate/compliment me, or anything, it's just a passion project and a cultural mission of mine (with the curated database). However, I find it incredibly disgusting and repelling that the only reason you came to this thread is to call a person you don't even know sick, AND on a PUBLIC forum.

You have some deep ethical/moral shortcomings/problems that you clearly need to sort out. This is just not the kind of thing you should write to people. I've had cancer not too long ago and the way you acted reminds me of how this disease works. You just appear out of nowhere and seek to destroy.
 

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yeah it seems I was totally and completely wrong, how you take it just makes it so obvious now. whatever keeps you sane mate