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Nick Griffin denied the Holocaust ever happened and he's seen as a racist thug.
Countless people deny 9/11 ever happened and they're merely seen as "conspiracy theorists".
What's the difference?!
About 16,996,000 lives.
PS - Nick Griffin is a plonker.
In addition to the above, these 'conspiracy theorists' don't deny 9/11 happened, they just think it was an inside job.
I don't see people denying the events of 9/11, but purely the motives behind, who carried out the attacks and in which manner the security forces dealt with it.
Nick Griffin is debating about the existence of an event happening in the first place.
The difference being that Nick is saying millions didn't die, the conspiracy theories are people saying that people did die but in circumstances different to the official story given by government and media.
The same is said about hitler, and that he was not that anti-jewish.Originally Posted by MrRabbit
Afterwards it's confirmed now.
Not believing in the inside job theory btw, it's a nice story for a book but those planes really went into the towers.
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but that's not what they arguethey argue whether the planes caused the towers to collapse or not, and why the planes could collapse while f16's were ready for take off 5 minutes away when the deviation of the plane was evident
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Actually there are a lot of people who say the planes didn't go into the towers. There's also theories that they were army planes, hollograms, missiles and other such far-fetched theories.but that's not what they argue
That's the difference.
He may well be a plonker and he may well be racist, but what he said about the Holocaust, isn't.
The reason he is called racist for such remarks is because Jews were specifically targeted during the Holocaust, they werent alone in being exterminated however and the term Jew is quite loosely used in relation to other religions / nationalities. Opinion will vary depending on how people feel about the events above.
You raise a good point. The sickness of conspiracy theories is spreading into the main stream
Strong irony.
All you have to do is watch pretty much any 9/11 video on YouTube and you'll people saying it didn't happen. Unbelievable really, but they exist.
Also I'm not defending Nick Griffin, just to clear that up. I'm just curious as to why one gets slated more than the other when they're all doing/saying terrible things. It doesn't matter how many people died in each event, people still lost lives and both events were down to mad men's ideologies.
@2030 I agree. It's becoming more and more acceptable. By saying and believing such things doesn't only make a person look stupid but it's also very disrespectful to the people effected in said events.
Even stronger irony.
Thats not the only things he has said though to be seen as a racist thug... Read below... I rest my case.
What a lovely gentlemen..........
IMMIGRATION
Has called Britain 'a multi-racial hellhole' and described British Muslims as 'the most appalling, insufferable people to have to live with'. Sunday Times, June 2009
'The ultimate aim for me and for the BNP still remains an all-white Britain.'
Financial Times, April 2002
'The only measure which is going to stop immigration . . . is to get very tough with those coming over. Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats. I say the boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft, and they can go back to Libya.'
BBC News, July 2009
Asked what he would do with people living in Britain who couldn't be 'sent home' because their nationalities were not clear, he said: 'Drop them out of a plane somewhere over Africa. I don't really care.'
More...
'Mass alien immigration and suicidally low birthrate mean that the White Race is poised on the brink of a precipice of rapid and irreversible decline. If we do not step back now, we face political and then physical extinction. Unite or die!'
BBC's Panorama, 2001
'Perhaps one day... the British people might change their mind and say: "Yes, every last one [non-white] must go." Perhaps they will one day. But if you hold that out as your sole aim to start with, you're going to get absolutely nowhere. So instead of talking about racial purity, you talk about identity. . .'
Panorama, 2001
'A favourite childhood game. . . was counting black people on the streets from the car window when my parents drove through London.'
Quoted in Mail on Sunday, April 2006
'I don't hate or have any problem with black people other than I hope very much they will remain black people. Other than I hope their children will look as black as they are...'
The Independent, June 2009
'We haven't given up on our principle that mono-racial countries . . . monoethnic countries are more stable and. . . multi-racial societies always end up going down the road of tyranny.'
Panorama, 2001
Controversial figure: BNP leader Nick Griffin
THE BNP
'If the liberals would just let us have one island, one place, where we could go and do what we want to do by ourselves, most white nationalists would be quite happy to have it.'
The Guardian, May 2000
'When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate. We have a body of trained young men capable of defending our organisation. If people come to crack our heads, we will break theirs.'
The Times, November 2006
HITLER
As a youngster, he told his school librarian: 'I'm not an extremist. I'm a socialist - a national socialist.'
Mail on Sunday, April 2006
'At 13, I read Mein Kampf, making notes in the margins . . . the chapter I most enjoyed was the one on propaganda and organisation - there are some really useful ideas there.'
Mail on Sunday, April 2006
'Yes, Adolf went a bit too far. His legacy is the biggest problem that the British nationalist movement has to deal with. It just creates a bad image'.
Mail on Sunday, April 2006
HOMOSEXUALITY
'TV footage of dozens of gay demonstrators flaunting their perversions in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive.'
Sunday Times, 1999
FASCISM
'There is a strong, direct link from Oswald Mosley to me.'
Mail on Sunday, April 2006
'Britain does not have the tradition of intellectual fascism which is such an important factor in many other countries. While I do have a number of proposals to help rectify this deficiency, the truth is that this is a handicap which we can never overcome completely.'
The Times, 2009
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At ease: Mr Griffin in his home town of Welshpool, mid Wales
THE HOLOCAUST AND THE JEWISH FAITH
'I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat. . . I have reached the conclusion that the "extermination" tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.'
Panorama, 2001
'It's well-known that the chimneys from the gas chambers at Auschwitz are fake, built after the war ended.'
Mail on Sunday, April 2006
He decreased his one-time MP, Alex Carlisle QC, as 'this bloody Jew . . . whose only claim is that his grandparents died in the Holocaust'.
The Times, April 1999
'We must be aware of the enormous control over every form of mass media the Jews possess and. . . who are the real manipulators of political power.'
The Independent, 2002
'[Jewish academics] originated political correctness. Because they saw it was good for the Jews. Because they saw a West made up of nations, each with its own consciousness as potentially a threat to Jews.'
The Times, 2009
Fundamentally I regard it as quite irrelevant and wrong that at a time when the British people are going to be a minority in our own homeland in 60 years, in other words we're going to be genocided ... at that time along come the liberal media with this big club marked Holocaust and bash me over the head with it.'
Panorama, 2001
ISLAM
'A vicious faith that has expanded from a handful of cranky lunatics about 1,300 years ago... now sweeping country after country before it, all over the world.'
The Guardian, January 2006
[Any Muslim caught] indulging in specific crimes [would be told] it's either go back to Pakistan or be hanged.
The Scotsman, October 2009
LIBYA
After an (unsuccessful) visit to Libya in 1986 to ask Colonel Gaddafi for money, he said: 'In our minds was the fact that Libya is a small country awash with oil money. If we wanted to build a serious nationalist movement in this country, we needed to attract serious money. Had we been offered it, we would have been very happy to take it.'
The Independent, 2009
GURHAS
Asked whether the Gurkhas should be allowed to stay in Britain, he replied: 'Our policy position is the country is full. No more immigrants.'
Daily Mirror, May 2009
ON HIMSELF
'I do not just believe I am right, I know I am right.'
The Guardian, May 2000
AND GRIFFIN'S WIFE, JACKIE, ON HER HUSBAND
'He's spent his time playing at stupid politics. To Nick, it's all a game. But to many people, of course, his Right-wing politics are so offensive.'
Mail on Sunday, April 2006
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ile-words.html
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