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First ten DJ’s announced, Dutch celebration of A State of Trance 550


“After weeks of anticipation, Armin finally revealed which DJ’s will be playing in the Brabanthallen of Den Bosch on March 31st 2012.Next to Top 25 DJ’s like Markus Schulz, Gareth Emery and Aly & Fila, the show will also have new talents Arty, W&W and Ørjan Nilsen and renowned names like Cosmic Gate, Super 8 & Tab, Stoneface & Terminal and Tritonal playing there. Next week, on December 1st, the full Dutch ASOT 550 line-up and all other international events of ASOT 550 will be announced

So that brings us to the following Line-up so far:
– Aly & Fila
– Arty
– Cosmic Gate
– Gareth Emery
– Markus Schulz
– Ørjan Nilsen
– Stoneface & Terminal
– Super8 & Tab
– Tritonal
– W&W

What do we think of this line-up ?

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  1. That it’s very predictable. No, I actually mean, WOW, what a surprise, Cosmic Gate is going to play there! Woohoo yeah fvck me sideways soo unbelievable!

  2. hahah @inter1908as for the line up , i hope it will be a blast but i need from the admins if they can help with this, the ones who are actually going to be there, is there any flight accommodations for this event ? anything related to it ? do i have to wait till im 30 to have a decent event :/( and by decent i mean , the sound system of the music, cz here , it simply SUCKS !

  3. The problem is (for me) that pretty much all of those DJ’s have gone downhill. A few years ago I would have been really exited to see Schulz/Emery/Super8,Tab/W&W/S&T/Cosmic Gate.But they all play more boring than they used to in my opinion.Very glad to see Orjan there, hopefully he gets a bigger room this year.

    • The problem is (for me) that pretty much all of those DJ’s have gone downhill. A few years ago I would have been really exited to see Schulz/Emery/Super8,Tab/W&W/S&T/Cosmic Gate.But they all play more boring than they used to in my opinion.Very glad to see Orjan there, hopefully he gets a bigger room this year.

      Just curious: which say 30-40 djs would you guys book then?

      • Just curious: which say 30-40 djs would you guys book then?

        Don’t know really. I guess I’ll end up mentioning those too.

        But I still think they play less music that I like currently 🙂

        But as I said, I hope their will be great sound. Not too loud basses or whatever. Just good clean sound. Then I don’t really care and I’ll have a good time anyway 🙂

        I didn’t mean to sound very negative.

  4. Great line up!,I really like cosmic gate,w&w and aly & fila.,:thumbup:

  5. Schulz is most boring one, he should be warm-up DJ!

  6. Next time they should pick up some DJ’s that really knows how to mix.Tab is the only one in this list.

    • Next time they should pick up some DJ’s that really knows how to mix.Tab is the only one in this list.

      Which ones?

      • Arty needs to improve his mixing skills. Last ASOT Special at Space de Ibiza was so annoying in 4-5 mixing transition but The stuff played was pretty good in my opinion.

      • Which ones?

        Which ones can’t mix or which ones should be chosen instead of those untalented?

        I’d these should be included say:

        Oliver Lieb
        Man With No Name
        Sasha
        Orkidea
        John Digweed
        Ovnimoon
        Kai Tracid

        …etc…

        • Which ones can’t mix or which ones should be chosen instead of those untalented?

          I’d these should be included say:

          Oliver Lieb
          Man With No Name
          Sasha
          Orkidea
          John Digweed
          Ovnimoon
          Kai Tracid

          …etc…

          lol its always fun to see the ‘elitists’ (yes you are one) who keep calling the same names over and over.

          ASOT wants to host a trance party with CURRENT dj’s. And you name these, most hardly do anything with trance at all now.

          You shouldn’t comment at all on ASOT party threads, if you hate all current trance dj’s.

          I would like the Matrix to win the ‘best movie of 2011’ award too, but its not gonna happen.

          • lol its always fun to see the ‘elitists’ (yes you are one) who keep calling the same names over and over.

            I haven’t said anything about those DJ’s recently. There are lot’s of other DJ’s too but those are my favourites that’s why I talk about them.

            ASOT wants to host a trance party with CURRENT dj’s. And you name these, most hardly do anything with trance at all now.

            In any case it’s not going to be a trance party, not even with the DJ’s I requested. Trance died in 1995 and that’s a fact, you can’t change the history. The DJ’s I requested play more like prog house and techno which has the original trance elements nowadays. That’s the reason I recommend them. Remember, word ‘trance’ is a swearing word nowadays. It would be very immature to not accept that fact and stuck up with your own illusions.

            You shouldn’t comment at all on ASOT party threads, if you hate all current trance dj’s.

            I have a right to comment what I want. I didn’t say I hate those DJ’s. They’re probably very good persons and would be nice to have as friends. But I just judged their mixing skills, because I have heard how they play dance-music and the mixing is uncreative and lacking so much good DJing skills.

            I would like the Matrix to win the ‘best movie of 2011’ award too, but its not gonna happen.

            Of course it’s impossible for it to win this year’s prize because it’s an old movie. But your example doesn’t really fit this context.

  7. I’d like to see the following on the line up:

    Oakey
    Sean Tyas
    John O’Callaghan
    Neal Scarborough
    Alex Morph
    Simon Patterson
    Giuseppe Ottaviani
    Bryan Kearney
    Daniel Kandi
    Activa
    Paul Webster
    John Askew
    Manuel Le Saux
    M.I.K.E
    Tom Colontonio
    Protoculture
    Will Atkinson
    Running Man
    TrancEye
    Sneijder

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    • I’d like to see the following on the line up:

      Oakey
      Sean Tyas
      John O’Callaghan
      Neal Scarborough
      Alex Morph
      Simon Patterson
      Giuseppe Ottaviani
      Bryan Kearney
      Daniel Kandi
      Activa
      Paul Webster
      John Askew
      Manuel Le Saux
      M.I.K.E
      Tom Colontonio
      Protoculture
      Will Atkinson
      Running Man
      TrancEye
      Sneijder

      Thanks in advance 🙂

      Great list mate. Altough i only see John O’Callaghan & M.I.K.E. as real Armada / ASOT artists here. Would be nice to see Oakenfold lined-up again!

    • I’d like to see the following on the line up:

      Oakey
      Sean Tyas
      John O’Callaghan
      Neal Scarborough
      Alex Morph
      Simon Patterson
      Giuseppe Ottaviani
      Bryan Kearney
      Daniel Kandi
      Activa
      Paul Webster
      John Askew
      Manuel Le Saux
      M.I.K.E
      Tom Colontonio
      Protoculture
      Will Atkinson
      Running Man
      TrancEye
      Sneijder

      Thanks in advance 🙂

      Totally agree with this list.

      I add and I hope to take account of these artists:

      Bjorn Akesson
      Kyau & Albert
      Garry Heaney
      Protoculture
      Juventa
      Talla 2XLC
      Luke Terry
      Matt Skyer
      Gary Mcguire
      Tom Colontonio

      You think? :z

      Hopefully Armin and company do a vote to choose our favorite DJs for ASOT 600 and cities competing to win the event. :schater: :icon_mrgreen: :suspicious:

  8. Also Martin Libsen’s productions are sick and he deserves some exposure on a grand scale such as this in my opinion.

  9. And Tucandeo & Beat Service if you could. Cheers.

  10. and myself if you could :kiss:

  11. Maybe what you consider as trance died in 1995 but what other people consider as trance didn’t died.
    Who are you to say that trance is death and say that as a fact anyway? Are you the godfather who decides about these kind of things?

    • Maybe what you consider as trance died in 1995 but what other people consider as trance didn’t died.

      It’s not about any consideration. It’s pure history. It’s only about facts. For example, you can’t say there never wasn’t WW2 because there was and it’s been proven. Trance music died in the 90’s, that’s for sure. Recent prove about this is the book of Orkidea’s that was released with his latest album. It was stated there exactly and he was there. He started DJing in 1991 and he lived the whole era. You can actually ask any of the original EDM DJ’s & producers that went through that golden era (1991-1995). And they all say the same. Even the ones that are DJing or producing nowadays. Go ahead and ask them about original trance, they all say the same.

      Who are you to say that trance is death and say that as a fact anyway?

      I’m just a normal human being who can for example read, think and hear things. Proves are the ones that tell the truth.

      Are you the godfather who decides about these kind of things?

      No I’m not and no one decides anything. At least not alone.

      P.S. I’m not continuing the history class in this anymore… wrong context.

      • Trance music died in the 90’s, that’s for sure.

        Did it though? Just because the music style may have changed since it “died” as you have said, does not mean that the music itself is not dead. Words can change meaning very easily, and in the same way music genres can change too.

        For example, the word “awful” used to mean “full of awe” i.e – wonderful, amazing. Compared to nowadays it means the exact opposite. Yet when you call something “awful” you mean it is bad or terrible. Just as the word has changed meaning, Trance has changed meaning. the Attributes that once made up the music that once was the trance you knew, (which I will call “Euforix Trance” just for the sake of this argument) have changed to be something completely different now. Just because it does not fit the attributes of “Euforix Trance” from 1995, does not mean it is not Trance and is all progressive house.

        Trance is not dead, as Voci and Puppetmaster have both said, Trance music is still massive around the world and is still made today, will be made tomorrow and has been made since 1995.

        • Trance is not dead, as Voci and Puppetmaster have both said, Trance music is still massive around the world and is still made today, will be made tomorrow and has been made since 1995.

          Amen to that mate. No idea how Euforix came up with these fables. His account being hacked by Tomonaro & Co?

        • Did it though? Just because the music style may have changed since it “died” as you have said, does not mean that the music itself is not dead. Words can change meaning very easily, and in the same way music genres can change too.

          Well, basically this is what happened. But the thing here is that we are talking about original trance. Not about hybrid’s or sub-genres. For example psytrance is still alive and kicking. And after original trance died in the 90’s they started to call this style which used elements from both trance and basic commercial dance music with a name ‘epic trance’. This has lead into all those sub-genres (tribal-, hard-, prog-, + other 100 sub-genres).

          In this discussion we haven’t done anything yet except scratched the surface. With Puppetmaster’s questions and statements we kept stucked with the basics.

          And I already said the same thing that you stated here “the music itself is not dead” earlier in this thread. That’s why I don’t understand why everyone thinks it’s some kind of end of the world.

          • But the thing here is that we are talking about original trance.

            No we’re not, we never were. You brought that up by saying all Trance was dead, a selection of members have simply disproven this theory. Nobody once said “Trance today is exactly the same as Trance when it began.” As that simply isn’t the case. Trance still exists today as it had done it the early 90s, it has just changed a lot since then.

            /ps could this topic be moved elsewhere, it is very interesting as a seperate thread and has gone off the actual topic itself.

          • You brought that up by saying all Trance was dead

            Negative. I never said “all trance”.

            The word “trance music” is simply the word for the “original trance music” not any hybrids made afterwards (for example “epic trance”, “euphoric trance”, “tech trance”… etc…).

  12. Not a surprising line up, it was suspected that Armin releases the names that will speed up the ticket sale. All of these acts are popular within the scene and there is fanbase that will make ASOT 550 a financial success. As for the rest of the names, more interesting and original acts will come up and seeing as last time ASOT had 39 Djs so there is room for at least 20 new names. The final line up will be massive and it will have variety. Like every other massive festival, you need sure crowd pleasers and some “unknown” jokers to get the thing sold out. These first DJs only give ASOT corporation/Alda events some safety that they can pull this event off with a nice profit margin. As for me I think this line up alone is nice, not stunning but ok so far. There aren’t much bigger trance events that even have these names in the line up.

  13. Yeah again, maybe the trance which was produced in the era of 1991-1995 is death, but not the one which is being produced today. Don’t really care if you name that trance or another style but at least it’s not dead, that’s a fact.

    I wonder when you consider a genre/scene to be death anyways. Also if you know it so well, why is that trance death now then? Why don’t the producers like Orkidea don’t produce the trance which you are talking about so that trance isn’t dead? Did they just got tired of that sound and preferred to do other sounds or what is the cause?

    To keep it ontopic. See this event… it’s named to trance, hosted by an org which says the event is about trance, and it’s attracting I don’t know… 30-40k trance visitors from all over the world. People which are spending hundreds to experience a trance event. If people are doing so much to experience this… how can you then say that trance is dead?

    • If people are doing so much to experience this… how can you then say that trance is dead?

      Because for some people commercialism = death to a music genre, which is totally wrong.

    • Yeah again, maybe the trance which was produced in the era of 1991-1995 is death, but not the one which is being produced today. Don’t really care if you name that trance or another style but at least it’s not dead, that’s a fact.

      The music isn’t dead, but it just isn’t trance. That’s the whole point.

      I wonder when you consider a genre/scene to be death anyways. Also if you know it so well, why is that trance death now then? Why don’t the producers like Orkidea don’t produce the trance which you are talking about so that trance isn’t dead? Did they just got tired of that sound and preferred to do other sounds or what is the cause?

      You can actually imagine the whole situation by yourself. It’s right that they produce that music still. But as I already said, the music isn’t dead, the genre is. Guys like Orkidea and others (i.e. O.Lieb, Chab, Union Jack, Mistiquerecords artists…etc…etc…) still produce music that could be called ‘trance’, BUT they don’t call it trance because once their great genre was stolen and abused by commercial artists in the 90’s they steered their music to another genre without losing all those great trance elements. That genre is called “progressive house” nowadays.

      To keep it ontopic. See this event… it’s named to trance, hosted by an org which says the event is about trance, and it’s attracting I don’t know… 30-40k trance visitors from all over the world. People which are spending hundreds to experience a trance event. If people are doing so much to experience this… how can you then say that trance is dead?

      That’s called good marketing but it’s also a big lie. The music isn’t really trance it’s just says in the advertisement that it’s trance. So it’s marketed as trance event. They did that same with original rave music in the 90’s and that same trick works still in these days. 😉

      Because for some people commercialism = death to a music genre, which is totally wrong.

      Yes, except it depends on the dynamic of the genre and how it’s been commercialized also how it’s been used has an effect on it. Some genres benefit from commercialism and some don’t… some genres even die because of it. Hopefully I don’t need to explain how it was with trance music.

      • The music isn’t dead, but it just isn’t trance. That’s the whole point.

        But who decides if it trance or not? Who has those rights?

        I have the feeling you are much listening to a few older producers and taking their truth as facts. But why not taking the opinion of new producers, new orgs and their fans as the truth?

        Also the names which you posted, why do I never see them in Holland? Cool that they are the real trance according to you but if I can never enjoy them at events here then I rather have todays artists to continue the scene, whatever genre name you want to give them.

        There’s just not one kind of trance. Same with hardcore. In the beginning there was Hardcore which now is named Early Hardcore. Todays hardcore is still named hardcore but people do know its different. But so what? Isn’t it the same in trance as well?

        Yes, except it depends on the dynamic of the genre and how it’s been commercialized also how it’s been used has an effect on it. Some genres benefit from commercialism and some don’t… some genres even die because of it. Hopefully I don’t need to explain how it was with trance music.

        Well, just think how you got introduced to trance, was it cause of commercial stuffs or not? Probably it was for like 95% of the people. Imagine there wouldnt be any trance events (since they are run by commercial companies), imagine that cd’s would be sold (produced by artists who sell cds = commercial, handled by record companies = commercial, sold by shops = commercial), imagine that you couldnt hear trance anymore on the radio (radio’s are commercial), etc. It would prob mean that no new fans will be introduced to trance. Then it’s great to have a not commercial genre, but no new visitors will enjoy the music, no cds will be sold, artists wont earn anything etc, do you really think so many artists will produce all for free? Don’t think so.

        • But who decides if it trance or not? Who has those rights?

          The artists who created the music. Logically.

          I have the feeling you are much listening to a few older producers and taking their truth as facts. But why not taking the opinion of new producers, new orgs and their fans as the truth?

          Well, it’s kinda simple that you ask about WW2 from the veterans that were there and not from people that were born in 2000’s. It’s the same with this. They experienced the thing so they are the best ones to tell about it. If I want to know something about prog or deep house then I rather ask nowadays’ producers instead because it’s a genre still alive and kicking.

          Also the names which you posted, why do I never see them in Holland?

          You think I see them in Finland?… except couple of them who are from here ofc.

          but if I can never enjoy them at events here then I rather have todays artists to continue the scene

          That’s your own decision. But if you state them as something they are not, you’re just cheating yourself.

          There’s just not one kind of trance. Same with hardcore. In the beginning there was Hardcore which now is named Early Hardcore. Todays hardcore is still named hardcore but people do know its different. But so what? Isn’t it the same in trance as well?

          Early HC is not an official genre. It’s just a pointer to point out something that it was before. And yes, HC isn’t dead. I listen +150 BPM HC and terror from the 90’s and still enjoy some new ones. But the reason for this is that HC never was internationally popular. It became popular only in NL (maybe little bit in Germany and Italy too). The artists decided to keep it as underground as they could and voíla the saved it. What were we talking about commercializing? 😉

          You should ask HS-fans about original hardstyle nowadays, that genre is dying at the moment. We are witnessing it right now.

          no cds will be sold, artists wont earn anything etc, do you really think so many artists will produce all for free? Don’t think so.

          This is where you go veeery much wrong. This all is the reason why good music is disappearing. Because artists start to make music just for money. For example check out this site: www.ektoplazm.com there are unsigned psy & prog trance producers releasing music almost daily and especially psybient + IDM producers too. All music is released for free and they often have 15x more producing skills that the producers who release music via commercial labels. Those producers keep the scene alive, they DO IT ONLY FOR THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC. Not for money.

          There are also countless examples of artists that originally made music just because of the love for it and they never planned to be commercial musicians. When they went commercial the quality went down for several reasons and it just wasn’t the same.

          • The artists who created the music. Logically.

            Why is that so logical then? If I create a genre then only I can decide if future produced music fits into that genre? Do I own that genre? No way.

            Well, it’s kinda simple that you ask about WW2 from the veterans that were there and not from people that were born in 2000’s. It’s the same with this. They experienced the thing so they are the best ones to tell about it. If I want to know something about prog or deep house then I rather ask nowadays’ producers instead because it’s a genre still alive and kicking.

            Comparing a war with a music genre doesnt makes sense at all. But again it aren’t just a few people who are to decide what is trance or not. Everyone is free to name the music how they like. And anyway who cares if certain music is named trance or a subgenre of trance or anything else. As long as they can enjoy the music. They dont care if its named trance or something else.

            You think I see them in Finland?… except couple of them who are from here ofc.

            so why is that? If they are the real trance and produce the quality stuff. Why aren’t they doing gigs in Finland and or Holland? Why can nobody enjoy them at events?
            Once again, if they aren’t coming to Holland then I prefer to listen to other artists, even if you or anyone else don’t think they produce/play trance.

            That’s your own decision. But if you state them as something they are not, you’re just cheating yourself.

            Me stating them? Why would I do that? They will anyway play what they like to play. No mather how anyone names it.

            The artists decided to keep it as underground as they could and voíla the saved it. What were we talking about commercializing?

            Oh ok! So if IDT phones one of the artist for a 40k people event and offering them 20k fee then those artists say no cause they want to be underground. I see…. Dream on my friend :icon_thumright:

            This is where you go veeery much wrong. This all is the reason why good music is disappearing. Because For example check out this site: www.ektoplazm.com there are unsigned psy & prog trance producers releasing music almost daily and especially psybient + IDM producers too. All music is released for free and they often have 15x more producing skills that the producers who release music via commercial labels. Those producers keep the scene alive, they DO IT ONLY FOR THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC. Not for money.

            Why do you care so much if someone is getting money or not? If producers are in it for the money and they makes proper music, then whats wrong with it?

          • Puppet, don’t argue with Euforix. He lives in denial.

            You are the ones who live in denial here, you don’t even try to understand any of this.

            Why is that so logical then? If I create a genre then only I can decide if future produced music fits into that genre? Do I own that genre? No way.

            Well, of course the ones who originally invent something have the right to define what it is and there aren’t just a few in this case (there are actually hundreds but I was asked only for examples). It goes the same with all the inventions in this world. But in music we can’t speak of ‘owning’ anything when the musicians share it with others.

            Comparing a war with a music genre doesnt makes sense at all.

            You can change that with any historical thing or event that has been proven. Makes very much sense

            But again it aren’t just a few people who are to decide what is trance or not. Everyone is free to name the music how they like. And anyway who cares if certain music is named trance or a subgenre of trance or anything else. As long as they can enjoy the music. They dont care if its named trance or something else.

            So if I make a techno track then you have a right to call it heavy metal and state that as a fact? No, I don’t think so. That’s a very neglectful way

            so why is that? If they are the real trance and produce the quality stuff. Why aren’t they doing gigs in Finland and or Holland? Why can nobody enjoy them at events?

            Because the majority obviously doesn’t like their music. It’s not mainstream = no $$

            Once again, if they aren’t coming to Holland then I prefer to listen to other artists, even if you or anyone else don’t think they produce/play trance.

            Yeah, you already said that and I don’t know why are you repeating it because it’s only about you and it’s your own choice and doesn’t have anything to do with me or the whole thing we are talking about.

            Me stating them? Why would I do that? They will anyway play what they like to play. No mather how anyone names it.

            True, and I didn’t say they will change no matter what the music is called.

            Oh ok! So if IDT phones one of the artist for a 40k people event and offering them 20k fee then those artists say no cause they want to be underground. I see…. Dream on my friend :icon_thumright:

            When did something like this happen? I don’t remember anything like this and I certainly didn’t say this is how genres remain underground.

            Why do you care so much if someone is getting money or not? If producers are in it for the money and they makes proper music, then whats wrong with it?

            I think in music making money should be a bonus, not the purpose. But as I already said it’s highly common that when artist goes commercial the quality goes down. This is my first opinion in this thread and it’s a whole another discussion.

          • You are the ones who live in denial here

            Well lets see then, everybody, if you think trance DID NOT die in 1995, please “thanks” (agree) with this post.

          • Well lets see then, everybody, if you think trance DID NOT die in 1995, please “thanks” (agree) with this post.

            😀 o/

            Can’t seem to “thank” that post though, strange.

          • Can’t seem to “thank” that post though, strange.

            ah! That’s because it’s a FP article 🙂

          • Can’t seem to “thank” that post though, strange.

            ah! That’s because it’s a FP article 🙂

            So we just have to accept the fact no one agrees with Voci. 😀 Thank you.

          • Edit: we can “thank” now, no need for new threads.

          • ah! That’s because it’s a FP article 🙂

            Sure? Cause I do have the option to thank your post?

          • Sure? Cause I do have the option to thank your post?

            that’s strange indeed, are you able to thank everyone’s posts but Voci’s?

          • that’s strange indeed, are you able to thank everyone’s posts but Voci’s?

            Ah it works now. All good, first thanks in! 😀

          • Well lets see then, everybody, if you think trance DID NOT die in 1995, please “thanks” (agree) with this post.

            I have thought this option too, actually I tried to listen a lot of so-called “trance”-music they released via big labels and were also informed here in TF some while ago, but first I didn’t like it, secondly I became aware of the history of this whole EDM scene (big part of it at least) and now I know things, but it doesn’t matter because you (judging by your posts) lack sense of empathy to try to understand and have decided not to. I really don’t think your way approaching this is not beneficial for anyone.

      • Yes, except it depends on the dynamic of the genre and how it’s been commercialized also how it’s been used has an effect on it. Some genres benefit from commercialism and some don’t… some genres even die because of it. Hopefully I don’t need to explain how it was with trance music.

        Well, just think how you got introduced to trance, was it cause of commercial stuffs or not? Probably it was for like 95% of the people. Imagine there wouldnt be any trance events (since they are run by commercial companies), imagine that cd’s would be sold (produced by artists who sell cds = commercial, handled by record companies = commercial, sold by shops = commercial), imagine that you couldnt hear trance anymore on the radio (radio’s are commercial), etc. It would prob mean that no new fans will be introduced to trance. Then it’s great to have a not commercial genre, but no new visitors will enjoy the music, no cds will be sold, artists wont earn anything etc, do you really think so many artists will produce all for free? Don’t think so.

      • Yes, except it depends on the dynamic of the genre and how it’s been commercialized also how it’s been used has an effect on it. Some genres benefit from commercialism and some don’t… some genres even die because of it. Hopefully I don’t need to explain how it was with trance music.

        No you don’t, as there are still lots of good trance producers in underground scene.

        • No you don’t, as there are still lots of good trance producers in underground scene.

          Exactly. :wors:

          Though, I’d change the literal part like this but it doesn’t matter, since we are not too pedantic. 😀

          lots of good [STRIKE]trance[/STRIKE] (prog house) producers in underground scene.

  14. Puppet, don’t argue with Euforix. He lives in denial. Its of no use 🙂

  15. Because the majority obviously doesn’t like their music.

    So I hope your real trance won’t die then.

    Meanwhile thousands of people keep on ejoying the trance events organised every weekend, which you say is dead. Strange! Must be all zombie’s then 🙂

    • So I hope your real trance won’t die then.

      Meanwhile thousands of people keep on ejoying the trance events organised every weekend, which you say is dead. Strange! Must be all zombie’s then 🙂

      Correct, except they are not trance events. Just normal dance events.

  16. I am considering attending 550. I’ve always wanted to get to NL and especially or a major trance event.

  17. I guess 550 will be generally the same lineup compared to the 500 editions. Maybe they shuffle a bit artists to play in other cities but that would be the biggest difference I expect.

    • I guess 550 will be generally the same lineup compared to the 500 editions. Maybe they shuffle a bit artists to play in other cities but that would be the biggest difference I expect.

      Difficult to keep things fresh when you host so many area’s indeed.

      • Difficult to keep things fresh when you host so many area’s indeed.

        Exactly. They generally need all professional trance(-related) artists to host all these cities and stages.
        To be honest I really wonder where’s the limit for events like these to keep them fresh and renewing. Somewhere there should be a boundary that it becomes too repetive and doesn’t attract enough ppl anymore.

        Offtopic: do I see boobies? :beard:

        • Exactly. They generally need all professional trance(-related) artists to host all these cities and stages.
          To be honest I really wonder where’s the limit for events like these to keep them fresh and renewing. Somewhere there should be a boundary that it becomes too repetive and doesn’t attract enough ppl anymore.

          Yup I share those worries. I’m afraid that when these artists are booked so often people won’t be so excited anymore and it basicly means killing your own concept.

          Not me myself, but there are thousands of people around the globe who are starting to realize these things and then it may become a difference.

          Explain? What will they start to realize and how will become a difference? You mean more people will see that the current trance is different (and maybe should named as a diff genre) ?? If yes then do you really think that those people care much about the name of the genre? Don’t think so.

          We had such an example here just recently. A upcoming release of Aerofoil was moved cause it isn’t considered as trance. For me it’s trance though but I’m happy when others name it House, as long as I can still enjoy the music. The last part is what is all about for everyone don’t you think so?

          • Yes I’m sick of the “what is trance” discussion as well, so I’m in public (sorry guys) saying something about that.

            Also whenever anyone says that trance is dead then I will reply to that, and that was the start of our discussion. It’s my passion and I just can’t stand it when someone says that the genre is dead.

            The question just is why? I mean, trance died but it’s not the end of the world. People still produce music and as you have said by yourself, you don’t care what genre it is you still enjoy the music.

            Explain? What will they start to realize and how will become a difference?

            I’m not willing to copy+paste everything I have already written. Just read those posts above.

            For me it’s trance though but I’m happy when others name it House

            But the part where I see you going wrong is that some music can’t basically be trance for you and not trance for me. You aren’t the judge who says something should be included to a certain genre and something should not, I can’t do this either.

            Always remember, Beethoven is Beethoven and Euforix is Euforix. If you say that Beethoven is Euforix it means that you’re delusional.

            as long as I can still enjoy the music.

            Yes, you’ve told this like 100 times already and I’m not anyone to say what you enjoy and what you don’t enjoy. It’s completely up to you. And you have every right in this world to enjoy anything you want. I haven’t ever in my life said anything against it. Is this clear now?

            The last part is what is all about for everyone don’t you think so?

            Maybe it’s just my english but what does this sentence mean?

        • Exactly. They generally need all professional trance(-related) artists to host all these cities and stages.
          To be honest I really wonder where’s the limit for events like these to keep them fresh and renewing. Somewhere there should be a boundary that it becomes too repetive and doesn’t attract enough ppl anymore.

          Offtopic: do I see boobies? :beard:

          I guess a really good example of an event that went to refresh itself after many years almost the same is Trance(Energy). I guess it is good that they try something different and apparently the result was good enough for the organisers to do it again. Not that I like it, no, but atleast they try!

  18. I don’t see where you want to go now. I said my thing, enjoy!

  19. Euforix, you know why your discussion is useless?

    Because “trance” doesn’t have an objective definition. Try to give me one. You won’t be able to.

    This means what is trance, or what is not trance, is subjective to people.

    You are claiming to know exactly what is trance, and what is not, and when it died (you said 1995).
    But, as there is no set definition, its impossible to do such a thing. Because, for me, something might be trance, and thus, it did not die (for me).

    So, if you YOU the music YOU thought was trance died in 1995, tats fine. Fortunately, 99% of the people on this board will agree with me, that there is enough trance music to enjoy even in 2011 (according to OUR definitions of trance).

    • there is enough trance music to enjoy even in 2011 (according to OUR definitions of trance).

      This is a totally different case here.

    • This means what is trance, or what is not trance, is subjective to people.

      Mostly people stick to the musc they used to listen in their youth because it remembers them to the years they were happy, and free of responsabilities.
      As you say it’s all subjective but doesn’t say anything about the genre.

      • Mostly people stick to the musc they used to listen in their youth because it remembers them to the years they were happy, and free of responsabilities.

        Yeah, it’s an interesting phenomenon I’d say. Not sure if the reasons you listed are true but sounds like a good theory indeed. :thumbup:

        doesn’t say anything about the genre.

        Absolutely true. But as stated many times in TF it’s good for people having their own tastes and own music collections so they can listen what they like. Not forced by anything.

  20. So that brings us to the following Line-up so far:
    – Aly & Fila
    – Arty
    – Cosmic Gate
    – Gareth Emery
    – Markus Schulz
    – Ørjan Nilsen
    – Stoneface & Terminal
    – Super8 & Tab
    – Tritonal
    – W&W

    thank u Captain Obvious !!

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