Trance artists who support russian war crimes in Ukraine

Julian Del Agranda

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You are an example of people who you just can't argue with. How is that saying?

"Never argue with an idiot they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience"

Now delete your account, thanks.

(Oh btw, I put you on ignore, so I won't see more of you. Replying is of no use. Thanks)
 

Jetflag

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That's right - ban the unwanted. :LOL: After all, there is essentially nothing to answer, except to groundlessly accuse everyone, forgetting that everything is not well for themselves. We need to give more publicity to the likes of you, so that people know for sure what you are. I'm going to put likes on guys who do not hesitate to express their position on Ukraine.
Nobody is banning or preventing you from " having the wrong opinion" but since you're new here, like any public forum you will however recieve backlash and replies for stating them.

especially if you start labeling this place a "hotbed of evil Nazi's"

I disagree with Uplifted that every single russian musician or babushka owned fruitshop should be put out of business simply because he's traumatized, But cut they guy some slack. The Russian government shooting up his country..and this is all he feels he can do. That doesn't make him part of the AZOV brigade or in support of them.
 
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TH3 ONE

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Ukraine has one problem.
They're a stubborn nation.
There are a lot of you in my country, Poland.
You honestly don't have a good opinion.
When there are many of you in one place, you have two faces.
People from Ukraine also work in company where I work.
When people form Ukraine first came to my country, you were loved.
But that changed over the next few months.
Ukraine is not Cyprus. Territory.It's a big country.
90% of people fled from non-conflict areas during the war.
They are rich people, not poor people.
People from the eastern part of Ukraine either died during the Russian attack or came to the central part of Ukraine,
where life goes on normally.
In Poland and other countries there are many young people who could help their country during the war. But why did they run away?
Pussy,pussy...
Women's are fighting for their country. Right?
Your president Volodymyr Zelensky is also a huge hypocrite who would only like money and set all other countries apart for his own ends.
And now what's the best. Ukrainians who work in Poland got a lot from us for free and money.
We are a poor country and we also have our problems.
When you saw that there is little money in Poland, many people from Ukraine returned to Ukraine, where their families continue to live normally.
So is there a war or not?
Many young people from Ukraine and older fled to Germany, the Netherlands, UK, Spain and even to the USA.
They used this time very well and for them the war is very good because it changed their lives and material status.
Ukraine as a nation is not without fault. This is also shown by history. But you can't see it because you have blinders on.
"Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia" But that's not important to you. People still live from this period.
In Europe, not everyone knows what the real relations between Ukraine and Russia were like before the war.
What is significant is that no one supports war in these times and all the conflicts around the world.
 
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TH3 ONE

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About Wołyn

Zmarłych pogrzebać – film dokumentalny o Zbrodni Wołyńskiej (English subtitles)​


See what the witnesses say and what you did. People from those times are still alive.
 

Jetflag

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Ukraine has one problem.
They're a stubborn nation.
There are a lot of you in my country, Poland.
You honestly don't have a good opinion.
When there are many of you in one place, you have two faces.
People from Ukraine also work in company where I work.
When people form Ukraine first came to my country, you were loved.
But that changed over the next few months.
Ukraine is not Cyprus. Territory.It's a big country.
90% of people fled from non-conflict areas during the war.
They are rich people, not poor people.
People from the eastern part of Ukraine either died during the Russian attack or came to the central part of Ukraine,
where life goes on normally.
In Poland and other countries there are many young people who could help their country during the war. But why did they run away?
Pussy,pussy...
Women's are fighting for their country. Right?
Your president Volodymyr Zelensky is also a huge hypocrite who would only like money and set all other countries apart for his own ends.
And now what's the best. Ukrainians who work in Poland got a lot from us for free and money.
We are a poor country and we also have our problems.
When you saw that there is little money in Poland, many people from Ukraine returned to Ukraine, where their families continue to live normally.
So is there a war or not?
Many young people from Ukraine and older fled to Germany, the Netherlands, UK, Spain and even to the USA.
They used this time very well and for them the war is very good because it changed their lives and material status.
Ukraine as a nation is not without fault. This is also shown by history. But you can't see it because you have blinders on.
"Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia" But that's not important to you. People still live from this period.
In Europe, not everyone knows what the real relations between Ukraine and Russia were like before the war.
^ that still doesn't make it ok for Russia to therefor bomb them, including innocent women and children.

or are you happy they're now finally " getting their comeupance" or something?

because if yes, that is pretty disgusting m8..

What is significant is that no one supports war in these times and all the conflicts around the world.
sure, and on that much we agree, and I was one of the first here to point out that Putin, albeit the prime-agressor, isn't the only one at fault here.
But that still doesn't make invading another country excusable. Ukraine, as a nation, wasn't a militairy thread (yet) to Russia on its own during the time of the invasion. This makes Russia (or the Russian government) the prime agressor and deserving of condemnation.
 
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TH3 ONE

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You know what is the problem of my country Poland. That we have a good heart.
Many families helped and still help people from Ukraine.
A lot of people didn't respect that from Ukraine, they destroyed their flats and imposed great conditions.
But you don't see it. Many of you writing here are in another country.
Why aren't you in the army and defending your country?
The only last person from Ukraine in music I respected Adam Navel.
But I see that he does not like arguments, so he removes from friends.
 

TH3 ONE

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Please do not impose your ideologies on everyone. Who is to like or not.
I understand your situation in the country. But everyone also has internet and television and can see what's going on.
The world is not only Ukraine or Poland or other country.
 
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TH3 ONE

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What pisses me off the most is that many of your friends and colleagues from Ukraine are fighting for their country and women from your country are having a lot of fun on tik tok,only fans etc. in many countries where war in your country don't give a shit.For me, they're just regular rags.
 
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Jetflag

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Please do not impose your ideologies on everyone. Who is to like or not.
I understand your situation in the country. But everyone also has internet and television and can see what's going on.
The world is not only Ukraine or Poland or other country.
where have I, or anyone else on this forum " imposed" our " ideologies" on you exactly?
 

TH3 ONE

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where have I, or anyone else on this forum " imposed" our " ideologies" on you exactly?
Hahaha
An ideology is a set of opinions or beliefs of a group or an individual. Very often ideology refers to a set of political beliefs or a set of ideas that characterize a particular culture.
You have to go back to school
 

Jetflag

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Hahaha
An ideology is a set of opinions or beliefs of a group or an individual. Very often ideology refers to a set of political beliefs or a set of ideas that characterize a particular culture.
You have to go back to school
Yes I knew what an ideology was before you googled the definition my man, :D this is what you said:

quote: "Please do not impose your ideologies on everyone. Who is to like or not"

so i'm asking you again. where have I, or anyone else on this forum " imposed" our " ideologies" on you exactly?
 
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Archon

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you slavs always hate each other, its like forever, whats the matter?
This really made me laugh, so true.

But I would argue it's all been created recently. Well, so did the nation and national identity, when it was created.

Anyhow, if the replies in this thread remain unconstructive, I believe the best solution would be to close it and not cause further heated debate and possibly hatred.
 

TH3 ONE

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Yes I knew what an ideology was before you googled the definition my man, :D this is what you said:

quote: "Please do not impose your ideologies on everyone. Who is to like or not"

so i'm asking you again. where have I, or anyone else on this forum " imposed" our " ideologies" on you exactly?
You do this all the time. Read the name of the topic aloud.You seem to have trouble thinking.
Ukraina are always only right.Fault is always in the middle.
 

TH3 ONE

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You and your country sometimes create an inflammation where then everyone you blames.
And here's problem.
 

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Damn this thread sure has quite a few comments in the last 2 days 😳

on Vadim's page, I see that he supports the war by raising funds for the army
If an enemy starts attacking your country what should the people do? That's right, make the fundraisers for country's DEFENSE which is Armed Forces of Ukraine in this case. I myself have donated some money, settled a family of refugees from Kharkiv in my flat for a few weeks - people are doing what they can, while russians are living their normal lives.

Well, tell me, after your boycotts, did they stop supporting Ahmed? or maybe Alex?

Unfortunately I'm one of the very few ukrainians trying to start a boycott in trance community without being bored and hopeless about it.
Our ukrainian trance community is too small for artists/listeners to be united into some form of "boycott the russian music" thing, that's why I tried creating this thread. I do have some dj's/producer-friends who are also trying to post something about it but they barely have any attention from trance community at all. And as we all know, labels care about 💸, and most of listeners be like "wE aRe OuT oF PoLiTiCs, jUsT liSTeN To tRaNcE, cLoSe yOuR eYes AnD fLy", listening to some cheesy vocal trance.

Why is my position so important? I'm dealing with facts, not emotions.
You deal with facts? Perfect! Please tell me how you dealwith these 998 facts of your important position, captured only in 4 months of russian invasion?

Do you remember the Wołyń Massacre? When Ukrainians killed, tortured with axes.​

They killed children, women, old people from Poland.​

And you will tell someone what to do?! Fuck .


Let's talk about Volyn massacre then.
What was the reason of brutal killing of poles by Ukrainian nationalists?
First of all, one of the most powerful socio-political force in Volyn was the "union of the russian people" (it was called "black hundred"), which was created in russia on the year 1905. Around 2 million villagers have signed up for this black hundred. It's clear that these people did not sign up voluntarily, and they simply didn't have a choice as the popes compiled lists of local organizations of the "Union of the russian people" ("SRN"), because this movement was inspired by the russian Orthodox Church. The ideological inspirer of the "SRN" in Volyn was Metropolitan Antony who was originally from russia.
As we see, this chain stretches from the pre-war and interwar period of the 20th century to the modern Ukrainian state, and once again, the russians are the ones who have started this all.


The conclusions I came to:
1. TH3 ONE is simply tired of the Ukrainian immigrants living in Poland during all his life, hearing Ukrainian language from every corner of Poland, as I myself have been one of them in 2019-2021, living there for 1,5 years and I've seen way too many Ukrainians in this country simply cause it's an EU country, the salaries are better and the opportunity of getting out of "slavic environment" is much stronger.
As most of Ukrainians during many years have arrived to Poland without higher education to work in buildings and other low-profit jobs, there have been quite a few "scandals" with them in the news, the drunk fights with polish people, etc.
And the fact of TH3 ONE seeing so many ukrainians and the video about the Volyn massacre have been the main triggers for him to hate everything Ukrainian and for justifying russian attacks on Ukraine without batting an eye.

2. Regarding mr. guse - this person probably doesn't even know what trance is and he simply decided to :poop: a bit on this forum and assert himself through his "smart point of view".
This picture describes these people well:
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Jetflag

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You do this all the time. Read the name of the topic aloud.You seem to have trouble thinking.
Ukraina are always only right.Fault is always in the middle.


Nice dodge but you (again, lol) didn’t answer my question.

you said (read: bemoaned) that ideology was being imposed on you here.

how?

and dude...I just f ing met you 😅 ! how the hell do I do this "all the time" (to you) allegedly.. Have you actually read what i wrote on this topic? and how the hell is a voluntairy topic, about artists supporting war crimes in Ukraine on a forum YOU voluntarily signed up for, not the other way around, in any way a (forced) ideological push on you?

like: Do you know what imposing something on someone actually entails?
 
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Jetflag

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Damn this thread sure has quite a few comments in the last 2 days 😳


If an enemy starts attacking your country what should the people do? That's right, make the fundraisers for country's DEFENSE which is Armed Forces of Ukraine in this case. I myself have donated some money, settled a family of refugees from Kharkiv in my flat for a few weeks - people are doing what they can, while russians are living their normal lives.



Unfortunately I'm one of the very few ukrainians trying to start a boycott in trance community without being bored and hopeless about it.
Our ukrainian trance community is too small for artists/listeners to be united into some form of "boycott the russian music" thing, that's why I tried creating this thread. I do have some dj's/producer-friends who are also trying to post something about it but they barely have any attention from trance community at all. And as we all know, labels care about 💸, and most of listeners be like "wE aRe OuT oF PoLiTiCs, jUsT liSTeN To tRaNcE, cLoSe yOuR eYes AnD fLy", listening to some cheesy vocal trance.


You deal with facts? Perfect! Please tell me how you dealwith these 998 facts of your important position, captured only in 4 months of russian invasion?



Let's talk about Volyn massacre then.
What was the reason of brutal killing of poles by Ukrainian nationalists?
First of all, one of the most powerful socio-political force in Volyn was the "union of the russian people" (it was called "black hundred"), which was created in russia on the year 1905. Around 2 million villagers have signed up for this black hundred. It's clear that these people did not sign up voluntarily, and they simply didn't have a choice as the popes compiled lists of local organizations of the "Union of the russian people" ("SRN"), because this movement was inspired by the russian Orthodox Church. The ideological inspirer of the "SRN" in Volyn was Metropolitan Antony who was originally from russia.
As we see, this chain stretches from the pre-war and interwar period of the 20th century to the modern Ukrainian state, and once again, the russians are the ones who have started this all.


The conclusions I came to:
1. TH3 ONE is simply tired of the Ukrainian immigrants living in Poland during all his life, hearing Ukrainian language from every corner of Poland, as I myself have been one of them in 2019-2021, living there for 1,5 years and I've seen way too many Ukrainians in this country simply cause it's an EU country, the salaries are better and the opportunity of getting out of "slavic environment" is much stronger.
As most of Ukrainians during many years have arrived to Poland without higher education to work in buildings and other low-profit jobs, there have been quite a few "scandals" with them in the news, the drunk fights with polish people, etc.
And the fact of TH3 ONE seeing so many ukrainians and the video about the Volyn massacre have been the main triggers for him to hate everything Ukrainian and for justifying russian attacks on Ukraine without batting an eye.

2. Regarding mr. guse - this person probably doesn't even know what trance is and he simply decided to :poop: a bit on this forum and assert himself through his "smart point of view".
This picture describes these people well:
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True

except that, in the context of Ukraine, it was the USA and their NGOs who tied those people on the tracks for 20 years, only to then pretend they had no hand in setting this all off,

but that’s another discussion
 
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So a little update regarding Trancemission Festival in Moscow I've mentioned earlier in this thread.

The festival is not cancelled, and Heatbeat, Philippe el Sisi are STILL GOING TO PERFORM in April for a country which attacks Ukraine on a daily basis, causing problems for the whole world.

They will play in Moscow and Saint Petersburg 14th and 15th of April 2023.

14th of April Heatbeat posted a photo of him from Trancemission Festival in Moscow along with Philippe el Sisi, Omar Sherif, Dj Feel, Roman Messer and the russian fans.

Money has no smell :poop:

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24th of February there's gonna be a trance party in Moscow with another headliner from outside the terrorist country - Last Soldier.

Also regarding the Last Soldier announcement for 24th of February - he actually didn't play due to russian consulate in Iran not handling him the visa to travel to russia due to "unknown reasons" as the organizers claimed. So he was replaced by Roman Messer (no shit lol). Also they've added that Last Soldier is gonna perform in russia in June-July at another "Fly Eternal" event edition.
 
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