AI, procedural generation and other new music technologies - What does the future of music hold?

LostLegend

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Thing is I want it to sing a certain phrase, I can do the initial singing myself (despite the fact that no-one in their right mind would want that in a production heh). But ideally I’d then have some tool which can turn that into a (nice) female vox
So you want to turn your voice into a female one?
Is that meant for this thread or the trans one? 😉
 

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Look at how things like Metaverse, VR, crypto, blockchain, electric vehicles, Google glass, 3D TVs, 3D movies... and so on have stalled or begun to fall out of favour after an initial burst of accelerated development/hype. The public eventually catch on that it's not living up to expectations.

The electric vehicle movement is going along quite nicely. They are absolutely everywhere in the US. I just got to California yesterday and already have seen multiple self driving (empty) cars going around the city too. VR and AR is somewhat unique, in that we have to experience a reversal in resolution/graphics for what we are used too, due to the hardware, which has never happened before with visual technology but still... did you see the VR conversation Lex and Zuckerberg have? Its absolutely mind blowing. Lex is speechless. No question it will become a norm for human communication, and rightly so - fuck texting and zoom when I can chat with my family in the UK and it feel like im next to them.

AI at its most infantile stages already has given us pictures and videos in which you cannot tell the difference from reality. Why would music be any different? Maybe the argument is that music has a level of complexity to it that AI cannot understand, but I would be surprised. Is that your feeling?
 

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Hm..I don't think its complexity.

AI, despite its potential still is unable (and probably never will be able) to solve the hard problem of conciousness. It cannot map Qualia, therefor it will only be able to at best very neatly approximate items, and definitely not for all, all at once.
 

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AI is not some actual artificial intelligence in a sci-fi sense, it's just mathematical models and algorithms, if it's not yet doing great with music it's because nobody has developed it well enough to be working with it and I can clearly see why - I am pretty sure Sony, Universal and the other majors would rather buy out some promising AI startups to bury them than let anyone have an endless source of great music they can't make money from. So the anti-AI lobby is really strong in the music business because ones it's there, things will change too much and those on top sure don't want that to happen any soon, even tho it's still inevitable
 
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AI is not some actual artificial intelligence in a sci-fi sense, it's just mathematical models and algorithms, if it's not yet doing great with music it's because nobody has developed it well enough to be working with it and I can clearly see why - I am pretty sure Sony, Universal and the other majors would rather buy out some promising AI startups to bury them than let anyone have an endless source of great music they can't make money from. So the anti-AI lobby is really strong in the music business because ones it's there, things will change too much and those on top sure don't want that to happen any soon, even tho it's still inevitable
I don't think the music industry is looking at AI like that m8. If it where then that would also go for the overall Art scene and its money bearers and yet we see things like midjourney and leonardo making huge strides.

Like most companies involved in developing AI, the rewards of having one superior to the rest will not only put your competitors out of business, but will give you the monopoly and infinite amounts of revenue without having to pay for cumbersome things like producers, musicians, singers etc.
 

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I was disappointed with Leonardo tbh.

I promted “design a logo for music artist Julian Del Agranda” but the Ai didn’t even use the name. It said Julian sometimes but followed by random letters etc. Weird mistakes. The ai also put in a person, as if that guy was ‘Julian’. Sort of funny but silly.

To test it I also wrote “display Frenkie de Jong in boxershort.” Yeah I know, silly. The AI gave me a blonde looking guy with a sexy twink body. It wasn’t Frenkie though lol. It also gave a photo with a twink body (lets say 20-25 years old) but with a child head (lets say 10 year old). I found that a little weird, not sure if Ai should design grey-area fake child porn kind of stuff?
 
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I was disappointed with Leonardo tbh.

I promted “design a logo for music artist Julian Del Agranda” but the Ai didn’t even use the name. It said Julian sometimes but followed by random letters etc. Weird mistakes. The ai also put in a person, as if that guy was ‘Julian’. Sort of funny but silly.

To test it I also wrote “display Frenkie de Jong in boxershort.” Yeah I know, silly. The AI gave me a blonde looking guy with a sexy twink body. It wasn’t Frenkie though lol. It also gave a photo with a twink body (lets say 20-25 years old) but with a child head (lets say 10 year old). I found that a little weird, not sure if Ai should design grey-area fake child porn kind of stuff?
Yeah I wasn’t too impressed either, took me 20 prompts just to get a conceptual picture of an O’Neill cylinder

that said: proper prompting is an art on its own, and I have seen some amazing results being made from it