facade1984
Senior Member
If they didn't before they certainly do now, just like the rest of us
Conservative or liberal (politics)
- Thread starter dmgtz96
- Start date
Jetflag
Legendary Member
- Jul 17, 2020
- 4,642 Posts
- 4,051 Thanked
Speak for yourself, I still love my American shitlibs and magats
What propaganda are you referring to, specifically? Propaganda is not always hatred based either, it has utility. And is it in relation to US people vs US gov vs broad idealogy? All very different. And when I look at their actions, I've not seen them attack the US in any significant way in decades. If your going to share something, it must be sufficient enough to prove a degree of hatred and intent that it is no longer considered a leap to claim "they want to destroy us with nukes" - the entire crux of the current conflict.
As for them running a proxi war using militia groups. Fine, but all of the top powerful nations have been doing the same for decades. I imagine a lot of Irans clandestine military activity is borne from, or in response to, US and Israeli behavior. They might argue the US is the aggressors and cultivators of the situation. 1953 plenty proof.
Probably the most recent anti-Trump (AI) Lego video Iran just put out. It was very amusing tbh and ballsier than anything any American has done against Trump
Jetflag
Legendary Member
- Jul 17, 2020
- 4,642 Posts
- 4,051 Thanked
From 1979 onward? The most notable are probably Khomeini (or what’s his name) ‘s. “Great Satan Speech”. Which he, before his death, recently defended/reiterated.
the Number One Enemy of the Deprived People Of the World section is quite a neet one khomeini
The regime has endorsed /promoted “Death to America” chants frequently…
as for propaganda posters/ visuals: take your pick..
Photos: 34 Years of Anti-American Propaganda in Iran
I can post more of course but the general tone is obvious and very much Iunchanged over the years…
this is a strict islamic regime which, in terms of fanaticism / religious doctrine borders on Al quada/ Isis. Now that I in itself agree would not be probable cause for an invasion..
but when said Islamic fanatic regime gets hold of mass drone tech industry..intercontinental missile tech, and nuclear refining facilities and have expressed desires fór a nuclear weapon the threat becomes very much exponential… now you are no longer talking about a handful of shiates hijacking a plane or suicide bombing a marathon….
Last edited:
facade1984
Senior Member
You're far too kind to the maga weirdos. Fuck these people because they're clearly ok with enabling/covering up things like the Epstein stuffI love shit-libs and commies.
I have lots of shit-lib and commie friends
We’re all going down buddy. Doesn’t matter if you’re a “maga weirdo” or a college educated liberal
facade1984
Senior Member
Jetflag
Legendary Member
- Jul 17, 2020
- 4,642 Posts
- 4,051 Thanked
Shall we please not pretend labour and/or the dems are not clearly ok with that aswell if it’s them on the throne eyh?
Last edited:
SaltAcidFatHeatAcid
Senior Member
- Jul 19, 2022
- 610 Posts
- 847 Thanked
Shall we please not pretend labour and/or the dems are not clearly ok with that aswell if it’s them on the throne eyh?
The right owns the church generally, and we all know how that has gone... Republicans have shown they'll sell their souls to duck and cover from Trump and the MAGA base. Dems still have a less unified set of positions and will buck their party - it happens all the time. Remember what Al Franken resigned for?
I mean, if the right didn't try to own family values, moral order, religiosity while also being the most hypocritical bunch of cunts, I wouldn't take as much of an exception to your both sides argument. And in this modern scandals are no scandals anymore environment, Dems are sinking to the moment in accepting things in their party they previously wouldn't have accepted, no doubt.
Jetflag
Legendary Member
- Jul 17, 2020
- 4,642 Posts
- 4,051 Thanked
for me it generally compensates with the left trying to own Compassion, Tolerance and "Enlightend secular values" (like science) while also being the most hypocritical, ideologically loaded bunch of cunts on those fields, when it damn well suits them.
If it proves anything to me it’s that, left way or right, if a political organisation or institute becomes too large and powerful/ or interrwined, like your defacto 2 party system, corruption creeps in. The larger the system, the higher the levels of corruption.
Last edited:
facade1984
Senior Member
Left or right doesn't matter to me in this context. If you're covering this up then you're a piece of shit regardless of where you sit on the political spectrumShall we please not pretend labour and/or the dems are not clearly ok with that aswell if it’s them on the throne eyh?
Then we agree that one can be conservative and oppose what democrats stand for while *also* not being in support of Trump and MAGA. Only reason you’d vote for Trump anyways is to be a contrarian or prevent democrats from winning (who btw did a great job on their own losing the straight male vote of all races but black)
Lots of straight men in the US are far more conservative than they’d like to admit. I could see them shifting, though, as rising gas prices, inflation, and bad investment returns keep affecting the general population
the war and its risk of a draft will also push men to the left
the war and its risk of a draft will also push men to the left
facade1984
Senior Member
Yeah absolutely, again that wasn't my position. I thought it was clear I think all maga people/trump supporters are cunts. You can still have intelligent conservatives, Thomas Massie for example
Jetflag
Legendary Member
- Jul 17, 2020
- 4,642 Posts
- 4,051 Thanked
this actually pushed trump in the negative numbers for me. It was a fair 50/50 tossup as far as policies went between Biden and him back in 2026, personalities not accounting. But where Maduro or Sullemani are clear example on how to properly apply HST on the world stage, the Iran gamble is developing more and more to be the (disatrous) opposite of that. This is a beast he might not be able to contain that way.
We will have to see how it develops though. if this is going to be a dragged out conflict with mass boots on the ground, the blues will, in my opinion, win the house/senate. which will most likely mean impeachment v2. If he (somehow) manages to squeeze out a deal with Iran within a considerable short timeframe and just the expendature of tomahawks, it might be enough to demonstrate he is still the man for the job.
There has been plenty of Maga voices in addition tot hat who've already turned on Trumps "let by israel on a war leash" decision making.
It’s been amusing seeing Iran threaten Trump and US tech, and everyone’s like… wait… actually, please do it, please take care of our problems LOL
My Roth IRA and old 401k combined are both down ~8% since the all time high before the war started. It’s potentially a good investment opportunity as long as I don’t lose my job. Where I’m at should be fairly safe at least for the next couple years anyways
Jetflag
Legendary Member
- Jul 17, 2020
- 4,642 Posts
- 4,051 Thanked
friend of mine works for shell, he's on x all the time, Trump sais send troups? stock goes up, Trump sais "great talk we'll have a deal soon" stock down. lol
X is getting so nice with all the Japanese posts flooding Americans’ timelines. If you haven’t been on there, you should check it out.
also, fwiw, I’d totally buy a brand new Tesla (heck, even a cybertruck) and rock those paper plates just to piss off people like saltfatheatandacid and facade1984
