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facade1984

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Or maybe the left are just sick of a bunch of needlessly rich psychopaths and narcissists (who seem to be either pedos or pedo protectors) constantly making decisions that make life worse for regular people. Immigration is the only crutch these assholes have. And before anyone says "oh are you ok with completely unrestricted immigration then" just know I can spot a straw man when I see it
 

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Or maybe the left are just sick of a bunch of needlessly rich psychopaths and narcissists (who seem to be either pedos or pedo protectors) constantly making decisions that make life worse for regular people. Immigration is the only crutch these assholes have. And before anyone says "oh are you ok with completely unrestricted immigration then" just know I can spot a straw man when I see it
Nah, the left disregarded a large portion of the American working class and generally stopped giving a shit about men
 
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Anyways, the midterms will likely be tilted in the favor of dems this year due to the high gas prices and the war
 

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Nah, the left disregarded a large portion of the American working class and generally stopped giving a shit about men
Ngl that sounds like some hyperbole and borderline red pill shit. While I agree that the left have been a bit weak it ain't enough to make me wanna be on the side of people who engage in genocide, authoritarian behavior, human trafficking, sexual assault, insurrections, generally supporting criminal behaviour and sucking elon musk farts. The right are definitely not on the side of working people and they'll sell you down the river at a moment's notice
 

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Immigration is the only crutch these assholes have
No, its the effects óf mass uncontrolled immigration (like a lot of the things you don't want to side on like human trafficking, child grooming gangs, rioting/looting, increases in sexual assault and general criminal behavior etc) that is the crutch they have. And the answer to those things from the left has so far been:

" its not a problem because its a good thing and enrichment of culture"
or
"we don't know what to do about it because we might be called racist"

This not "weakness" from the left. Its ineptitude.

he right are definitely not on the side of working people and they'll sell you down the river at a moment's notice
yes, they most probably will...but Its the enemy you know vs the friend who has stabbed you in the back

The Right (so far) simply hasn't deeply betrayed the native working class in places like the UK, USA and even NL.. the way the left has. This is what will probably destroy the labour party in the UK, and already has in NL.

I agree, the right will most probably and when in power, as we see in the US, break (some) election promises in favor of themselves.. But it is nowhere near the extend the left over the past couple of decades has let its working class "filthy gammon's" down...in favor of the rich metropolitan bourgouise college yups non the less.

if the left is to win back the native working class, they will have to let go of being in preferance of éverything "other"...except them.
 

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Ngl that sounds like some hyperbole and borderline red pill shit. While I agree that the left have been a bit weak it ain't enough to make me wanna be on the side of people who engage in genocide, authoritarian behavior, human trafficking, sexual assault, insurrections, generally supporting criminal behaviour and sucking elon musk farts. The right are definitely not on the side of working people and they'll sell you down the river at a moment's notice
It’s the truth, though. American men largely drifted to the right for the 2024 elections.

things might not remain the same with these high gas prices though
 

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things might not remain the same with these high gas prices though
indeed.

if Khomeini jr really wants to hurt Trump/ his regime.. all he has to do is keep him on a line/stall the peace talks till the midterms.
 
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exactly this.
Ngl that sounds like some hyperbole and borderline red pill shit. While I agree that the left have been a bit weak it ain't enough to make me wanna be on the side of people who engage in genocide, authoritarian behavior, human trafficking, sexual assault, insurrections, generally supporting criminal behaviour and sucking elon musk farts. The right are definitely not on the side of working people and they'll sell you down the river at a moment's notice

Also just lost a lot of respect for Idris Elba


anyone who uses the term "woke" generally hasn't got a clue. Which is ironic really, calling us "woke".
 

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He’s right, though. Some markets wouldn’t want that. He is absolutely correct.

and those markets have a lot more political power and cultural relevance than you would expect
 
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facade1984

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It’s the truth, though. American men largely drifted to the right for the 2024 elections.
I don't know what that proves? This is most likely for a lot of reasons, doesn't automatically mean that the left failed them, these people could have been pieces of shit to begin with is just one possible explanation. To bring back my original point though, being able to look past all the stuff I mentioned (and I didn't even touch on Russian talking points, illegal war and the Epstein stuff) because "the left failed me" is pretty disturbing if you think about it, no? If we can't at least agree on that then I think we have to call time here
 

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I don't know what that proves? This is most likely for a lot of reasons, doesn't automatically mean that the left failed them, these people could have been pieces of shit to begin with is just one possible explanation. To bring back my original point though, being able to look past all the stuff I mentioned (and I didn't even touch on Russian talking points, illegal war and the Epstein stuff) because "the left failed me" is pretty disturbing if you think about it, no? If we can't at least agree on that then I think we have to call time here
You vote for someone like Trump because you want him to burn down the entire society lol
 
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Also black James Bond, white James Bond, Asian trans James Bond, who gives a shit and if so why

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I give you Asian wheelchair bound James Bond.
 

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Also just lost a lot of respect for Idris Elba
I just gained a lot of respect for him, man seems to keep some genuine artistic standards in the face of in-group (political/ideological) pressure.

Also black James Bond, white James Bond, Asian trans James Bond, who gives a shit and if so why
Reverse the question: What exactly is Good about it? Why the crammy, pushy need to mutate and alter existing pieces of lore or fiction, with a specific vision rooted in the creator's imagination, cultural context, and historical moment, for contemporary social engineering?

Because if your goal is "real gender or race equality" in movies -> pretty much everyone hates it, and is adversed to it. They bomb enmass at the box office. You're actually achieving the opposite.

Presenting these kinds of current day policically charged altered versions as "faithful adaptations" misleads audiences who're (unlike perhaps you or I) genuinly invested in the franchise. They virtue signal without earning it through any sort of original creation, it disrespects any (emotional) investment and the deceased creators who cannot consent. It treats cultural heritage as malleable public property for current politics rather than a legacy to steward.

Further more, and this might be something "wokies" can agree on with me for a change, lol : Force swappings like this undermine genuine achievements by the aformentioned " minorities" by implying existing characters must be "diversified" rather than telling new stories from diverse perspectives. This is why a lot of people who had 0 problem and big praise for Black Panther, think a black james bond is absolute cancer.

-it is artistically bankrupt.
-ethically and aesthetically questionable
-lazy, whiny, and pushy.

and frankly: assymetrical and hypocritial. Because Boy...would the race/gender communist freak out (and rightfully so me thinks) if Stephen Fry or Mel Gibson was cast as Black Panther or Shaka Zulu :LOL:
 
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Jetflag

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these people could have been pieces of shit to begin with is just one possible explanation. To bring back my original point though, being able to look past all the stuff I mentioned "the left failed me" is pretty disturbing if you think about it, no? If we can't at least agree on that then I think we have to call time here
yes...it is pretty disturbing.

Hence why I actually hope "the left" finds it in itself to actually bé the party of common (working) man again.. instead of the party of everyone else except them. Even from "my political side" who is gaining traction across the board in the west at least..its not good to have an opposition be so out of touch with the situation on the ground and their head in the clouds. I think some serious naval staring needs to be done and certain ideas discarded.

Also: And I'm sorry to say this Adam...but the "They where evil pieces of shit al along" is just stupid and tribalistic reddit copium.

ya....the entire corpus of voters who voted obama in twice with margin to spare turned "evil"over night because what...alex Jones put something in the water? 😄 ofcourse not.
 
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