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OUT Dj IBON - Moving Alone [Kengu]
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Daysleeper
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This is a fad.
Whats the thing with replicating this sound? Let the sound rest in peace with some dignity
Whats the thing with replicating this sound? Let the sound rest in peace with some dignity
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Daysleeper
Lost in Trancelation
Arnoud
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I would say "the first hour of ASOT". After that the harsh metal factory "Steriod" trance kicks off.What is considered lollipop/bubblegum trance?
Possible that in 40+ year lifespan of a genre you cannot take it to a new place, without it becoming a different genre or something else? There's only so many places you can go, Its always working within restrictions. I personally dont think it matters if the synths or the beats are typical of a time period. If the musical idea is good then does it matter, surely its the content of the track that makes or breaks it? Im not saying that the bandcamp trance/techno guys have fully figured that out, but why does the costume of the track matter?
Daysleeper
Lost in Trancelation
Its a FAD. They only care about the aeshetics of the track. I can swear Dj Ibon dresses like all the 15-20 something year olds with that typical homeless/second hand 90s style thats so trendy now. They live and breath the 90s aesthetic.. Its more of a subculture.
Nothing wrong enjoying it though, im just not taking it that seriously.
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Because it is used to disguise the overall lack of ideas and actual content. Not saying it's done on purpose, but the end result feels like it is. It's surface-level.
But the problem is therefore the lack of ideas @Gagi and not the fact it chooses to use sounds and approaches from other periods. I'm saying that using old sounds is irrelevant, technically not a good or bad thing, although I personally will take spacious, organic, dreamy elements over the user of flat, sterile, muddy and lifeless production thats so common today. The former is more pleasant to listen to and also in my opinion truer to the essence of what Trance is about (mysticism, space, dreams). Isn't it a big step in the right direction? Feel like we are forgetting that Trance for last decade has suffered so bad from production technique that many have been convinced software itself had stripped all identity and soul from what made Trance, Trance.
I honestly never seen this 90's chasing subculture you are referring to @Daysleeper. Is this a Sweedish thing? American thing? You can find 15yr olds wearing some fisherman hats again in the UK, but thats about it. You said to me on FB you were into this stuff about 5/6 years ok...so the fad is still going? Fads usually last this long?
I honestly never seen this 90's chasing subculture you are referring to @Daysleeper. Is this a Sweedish thing? American thing? You can find 15yr olds wearing some fisherman hats again in the UK, but thats about it. You said to me on FB you were into this stuff about 5/6 years ok...so the fad is still going? Fads usually last this long?
- Jun 27, 2020
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Yes, it's in the ideas. (We've also discussed this already.)
Wouldn't say it's a step in the right direction. I've said I enjoy both the organic stuff and the new stuff - maybe not equally, but a good idea is a good idea. This, to me, feels like a marketing trick or a subculture thing - and even if they enjoy it, it still doesn't mean anything to me, it doesn't speak to me musically. Anyhow, it's old sounds made with new plugins or sampling and treated a bit more than your average 25-y-o track.
Look, if there's a new retro-type track that makes my balls warm as much as the one that it's trying to replicate does I'll go ahead and say it. But I don't think it has happened so far.
To use a synthwave/electronic example: There's a world of difference between Junkie XL's DBD OST and that Nickson album. The former is one of my favs, while I forgot about the latter a day after I listened to it. Both were made in the recent years.
Wouldn't say it's a step in the right direction. I've said I enjoy both the organic stuff and the new stuff - maybe not equally, but a good idea is a good idea. This, to me, feels like a marketing trick or a subculture thing - and even if they enjoy it, it still doesn't mean anything to me, it doesn't speak to me musically. Anyhow, it's old sounds made with new plugins or sampling and treated a bit more than your average 25-y-o track.
Look, if there's a new retro-type track that makes my balls warm as much as the one that it's trying to replicate does I'll go ahead and say it. But I don't think it has happened so far.
To use a synthwave/electronic example: There's a world of difference between Junkie XL's DBD OST and that Nickson album. The former is one of my favs, while I forgot about the latter a day after I listened to it. Both were made in the recent years.