John 00 Fleming - The Lost Tribe (Artist Album) [JOOF]

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John 00 Fleming
Release title
The Lost Tribe
Label name
JOOF
Release type
Artist album
Electronlyman

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It's just the fact we're being told it will come, and then delaying, multiple times in a row.
I don't mind waiting, it's the handling of it.
Repeated promises and delaying.
That is the only issue here.

I can wait bloody 15 years for it.
But building tension up and dropping into the abyss again and again just doesn't feel right.
 
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Electronlyman said:
It's just the fact we're being told it will come, and then delaying, multiple times in a row.
I don't mind waiting, it's the handling of it.
Repeated promises and delaying.
That is the only issue here.

I can wait bloody 15 years for it.
But building tension up and dropping into the abyss again and again just doesn't feel right.
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This is nothing compared to Astral Projection's album which was first rumoured in 2006 and still hasn't come out.
 
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juracid said:
I like to excuse for a longer post now:

If this has to be announced until 2020, I would be extremely excited because John once 'rescued' me from hating the modern trance scene back around 2008/2009 when many labels went rouge to release Electro/Trouse/Popshit. During these fearful times there was J00f. Just the ultimate hope. Back then, you simply could buy everything from J00f and be sure that it's high quality trance production without exception.

These times are long gone meanwhile. Even Mr. Fleming went generic in the past years, especially since he renamed his monthly show to J00F Radio. The precursor 'Global Trance Grooves' was mostly really what the name stands for. Global. Trance. Grooves. Intense and Organic. Fuck yes. I really really loved it.
I listened to nearly every episode since circa 2006 until the end in 2019. Sadly, the label's quality slowly dropped around 2015 but there were still very good releases on that way. If we talk about J00f by beginning of the 2010s it was the best trance label in the world. No exception.

However nowadays there are one or maybe two J00f releases I am really interested into because mostly the quality remains generic since years now (and therefore just boring for me). It still gives me tears when I think about J00f today. Because the label was so damn good back in the time. Even in present, I really try it with every new J00f release but hardly find any interesting trance music (or 'deep trance' as he called it today). It's 80% the same generic melodic house like thousands of other releases. :(

To be fair, the samples here in the vids sounds indeed interesting, the albums title is great and reminds me of his old epic releases. And of course, I will also buy John's new album because old love never gets roasted. ;) But I'm pretty sure it will be just 50% modern Psytech-Technotrance and 50% generic Melodic House. Unfortunately. Hopefully there will be 1-2 tracks which might ewake my interest again.

Sorry for being so pessimistic but John's recent sets and J00f releases unfortunately killed many hopes.
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I am optimistic about John 00 Fleming's album, but in my opinion, you are da*n right indeed.
Most of the JOOF label's releases in 2024 and 2025 are nothing but generic.

Coredata and half of Basil's tracks are interesting indeed, but the norm of JOOF releases is just filled with boring and cheesy progressive that lacks any variation or emotion. Tracks from RPO, Ormus, Steve Birch and Exotek are all included. (Beat Bizarre and Nordic Echoes are good though)
In the Chinese language, we will metaphorically use the term "to be lack of nutrition" to say that a track is boring, meaningless and not valuable. And this is the best term I can use to describe the JOOF releases in the modern years.

John 00 Fleming's recent sets are also boring, some progressive tracks are nothing like trance (ironically as the main person behind the term "deep trance").
I don't know whether it is caused by the lack of high-quality tracks, or by the decline of Fleming's aesthetic preferences.
Progressive back in 2018-2021 is way better, and those are the tracks that defines "deep trance" in my own mind.
More than half of the JOOF releases back then is good in my ears, but nowadays the rate has dropped to roughly 1/5.
(But in my opinion, JOOF is still better than the generic mainstream labels, including the good mainstream labels like Pure Trance and Borderline)

However, I'm still optimistic about John 00 Fleming's new album. I think that the long-awaited shall fulfill our ears.
 
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Sean Cong said:
I am optimistic about John 00 Fleming's album, but in my opinion, you are da*n right indeed.
Most of the JOOF label's releases in 2024 and 2025 are nothing but generic.

Coredata and half of Basil's tracks are interesting indeed, but the norm of JOOF releases is just filled with boring and cheesy progressive that lacks any variation or emotion. Tracks from RPO, Ormus, Steve Birch and Exotek are all included. (Beat Bizarre and Nordic Echoes are good though)
In the Chinese language, we will metaphorically use the term "to be lack of nutrition" to say that a track is boring, meaningless and not valuable. And this is the best term I can use to describe the JOOF releases in the modern years.

John 00 Fleming's recent sets are also boring, some progressive tracks are nothing like trance (ironically as the main person behind the term "deep trance").
I don't know whether it is caused by the lack of high-quality tracks, or by the decline of Fleming's aesthetic preferences.
Progressive back in 2018-2021 is way better, and those are the tracks that defines "deep trance" in my own mind.
More than half of the JOOF releases back then is good in my ears, but nowadays the rate has dropped to roughly 1/5.
(But in my opinion, JOOF is still better than the generic mainstream labels, including the good mainstream labels like Pure Trance and Borderline)

However, I'm still optimistic about John 00 Fleming's new album. I think that the long-awaited shall fulfill our ears.
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wow, i'd never read such an opinion before which fits it to 100%. Thank you for finding the right words about the current JOOF situation. It's still such a shame that once a great label went generic like so many others in modern trance. Nevertheless, still have hopes for the forthcoming JOOF album.

His A&R Daniel Lesden currently represents the new movement of trance music from the likes of Oprofessionell, Omformer, Ekkel, Asca, Ezy, Intuition, Mikkel Rev, Skodde, Ottersbo, Ayim, Slym, Liso or Scano in his "Rave Podcast" show.
You can listen to the latest episode here: https://soundcloud.com/daniellesden%2Frave-podcast-158
Sadly, no single release or EP from these amazing artists have seen light on JOOF so far...
 
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