John 00 Fleming - The Lost Tribe (Artist Album) [JOOF]

[Electronlyman]

It's just the fact we're being told it will come, and then delaying, multiple times in a row.
I don't mind waiting, it's the handling of it.
Repeated promises and delaying.
That is the only issue here.

I can wait bloody 15 years for it.
But building tension up and dropping into the abyss again and again just doesn't feel right.

 

[Z Dobrej Woli]

 

[Enlusion]

When album will get released all of you will understand the reasons for the delay, that's all I'm gonna tell

 

[TJY001]

It's just the fact we're being told it will come, and then delaying, multiple times in a row.
I don't mind waiting, it's the handling of it.
Repeated promises and delaying.
That is the only issue here.

I can wait bloody 15 years for it.
But building tension up and dropping into the abyss again and again just doesn't feel right.

This is nothing compared to Astral Projection's album which was first rumoured in 2006 and still hasn't come out.

 

[Electronlyman]

This is nothing compared to Astral Projection's album which was first rumoured in 2006 and still hasn't come out.

Add Eco to that list as well.
I've grown three grey hairs since it was announced.

 

[Trance4Ever]

Add Eco to that list as well.
I've grown three grey hairs since it was announced.

Lmao same here

 

[Sean Cong]

I like to excuse for a longer post now:

If this has to be announced until 2020, I would be extremely excited because John once 'rescued' me from hating the modern trance scene back around 2008/2009 when many labels went rouge to release Electro/Trouse/Popshit. During these fearful times there was J00f. Just the ultimate hope. Back then, you simply could buy everything from J00f and be sure that it's high quality trance production without exception.

These times are long gone meanwhile. Even Mr. Fleming went generic in the past years, especially since he renamed his monthly show to J00F Radio. The precursor 'Global Trance Grooves' was mostly really what the name stands for. Global. Trance. Grooves. Intense and Organic. Fuck yes. I really really loved it.
I listened to nearly every episode since circa 2006 until the end in 2019. Sadly, the label's quality slowly dropped around 2015 but there were still very good releases on that way. If we talk about J00f by beginning of the 2010s it was the best trance label in the world. No exception.

However nowadays there are one or maybe two J00f releases I am really interested into because mostly the quality remains generic since years now (and therefore just boring for me). It still gives me tears when I think about J00f today. Because the label was so damn good back in the time. Even in present, I really try it with every new J00f release but hardly find any interesting trance music (or 'deep trance' as he called it today). It's 80% the same generic melodic house like thousands of other releases.

To be fair, the samples here in the vids sounds indeed interesting, the albums title is great and reminds me of his old epic releases. And of course, I will also buy John's new album because old love never gets roasted. But I'm pretty sure it will be just 50% modern Psytech-Technotrance and 50% generic Melodic House. Unfortunately. Hopefully there will be 1-2 tracks which might ewake my interest again.

Sorry for being so pessimistic but John's recent sets and J00f releases unfortunately killed many hopes.

I am optimistic about John 00 Fleming's album, but in my opinion, you are da*n right indeed.
Most of the JOOF label's releases in 2024 and 2025 are nothing but generic.

Coredata and half of Basil's tracks are interesting indeed, but the norm of JOOF releases is just filled with boring and cheesy progressive that lacks any variation or emotion. Tracks from RPO, Ormus, Steve Birch and Exotek are all included. (Beat Bizarre and Nordic Echoes are good though)
In the Chinese language, we will metaphorically use the term "to be lack of nutrition" to say that a track is boring, meaningless and not valuable. And this is the best term I can use to describe the JOOF releases in the modern years.

John 00 Fleming's recent sets are also boring, some progressive tracks are nothing like trance (ironically as the main person behind the term "deep trance").
I don't know whether it is caused by the lack of high-quality tracks, or by the decline of Fleming's aesthetic preferences.
Progressive back in 2018-2021 is way better, and those are the tracks that defines "deep trance" in my own mind.
More than half of the JOOF releases back then is good in my ears, but nowadays the rate has dropped to roughly 1/5.
(But in my opinion, JOOF is still better than the generic mainstream labels, including the good mainstream labels like Pure Trance and Borderline)

However, I'm still optimistic about John 00 Fleming's new album. I think that the long-awaited shall fulfill our ears.

 

[Sean Cong]

Add Eco to that list as well.
I've grown three grey hairs since it was announced.

lmao
I have already heard the rumors of Eco's album being lost for multiple times.

 

[juracid]

I am optimistic about John 00 Fleming's album, but in my opinion, you are da*n right indeed.
Most of the JOOF label's releases in 2024 and 2025 are nothing but generic.

Coredata and half of Basil's tracks are interesting indeed, but the norm of JOOF releases is just filled with boring and cheesy progressive that lacks any variation or emotion. Tracks from RPO, Ormus, Steve Birch and Exotek are all included. (Beat Bizarre and Nordic Echoes are good though)
In the Chinese language, we will metaphorically use the term "to be lack of nutrition" to say that a track is boring, meaningless and not valuable. And this is the best term I can use to describe the JOOF releases in the modern years.

John 00 Fleming's recent sets are also boring, some progressive tracks are nothing like trance (ironically as the main person behind the term "deep trance").
I don't know whether it is caused by the lack of high-quality tracks, or by the decline of Fleming's aesthetic preferences.
Progressive back in 2018-2021 is way better, and those are the tracks that defines "deep trance" in my own mind.
More than half of the JOOF releases back then is good in my ears, but nowadays the rate has dropped to roughly 1/5.
(But in my opinion, JOOF is still better than the generic mainstream labels, including the good mainstream labels like Pure Trance and Borderline)

However, I'm still optimistic about John 00 Fleming's new album. I think that the long-awaited shall fulfill our ears.

wow, i'd never read such an opinion before which fits it to 100%. Thank you for finding the right words about the current JOOF situation. It's still such a shame that once a great label went generic like so many others in modern trance. Nevertheless, still have hopes for the forthcoming JOOF album.

His A&R Daniel Lesden currently represents the new movement of trance music from the likes of Oprofessionell, Omformer, Ekkel, Asca, Ezy, Intuition, Mikkel Rev, Skodde, Ottersbo, Ayim, Slym, Liso or Scano in his "Rave Podcast" show.
You can listen to the latest episode here: https://soundcloud.com/daniellesden%2Frave-podcast-158
Sadly, no single release or EP from these amazing artists have seen light on JOOF so far...

 

[NameLessYet]

Coming s∞n​

My artist album is 100% done! lt's set forrelease in February 2026, and we're now putting the finalpieces together for both the release and the supporting touretc.

 

[Progrez]

I am optimistic about John 00 Fleming's album, but in my opinion, you are da*n right indeed.
Most of the JOOF label's releases in 2024 and 2025 are nothing but generic.

Coredata and half of Basil's tracks are interesting indeed, but the norm of JOOF releases is just filled with boring and cheesy progressive that lacks any variation or emotion. Tracks from RPO, Ormus, Steve Birch and Exotek are all included. (Beat Bizarre and Nordic Echoes are good though)
In the Chinese language, we will metaphorically use the term "to be lack of nutrition" to say that a track is boring, meaningless and not valuable. And this is the best term I can use to describe the JOOF releases in the modern years.

John 00 Fleming's recent sets are also boring, some progressive tracks are nothing like trance (ironically as the main person behind the term "deep trance").
I don't know whether it is caused by the lack of high-quality tracks, or by the decline of Fleming's aesthetic preferences.
Progressive back in 2018-2021 is way better, and those are the tracks that defines "deep trance" in my own mind.
More than half of the JOOF releases back then is good in my ears, but nowadays the rate has dropped to roughly 1/5.
(But in my opinion, JOOF is still better than the generic mainstream labels, including the good mainstream labels like Pure Trance and Borderline)

However, I'm still optimistic about John 00 Fleming's new album. I think that the long-awaited shall fulfill our ears.

I think the whole deep trance tagging was invented by @Enlusion correct me if I am wrong. JOOF did have an influence and so did Daniel lesden. The name change of the radioshow was clearly a marketing ploy to get more attention to his name and brand. Most of progressive stuff JOOF plays they have a lot of templated percussions which sound too flat imo. You should check out the stuff from 2003 - 2017 of JOOF radioshow.

 

[juracid]

It's still interesting.

He dropped the Iconic name 'Global Trance Grooves' and renamed his show to 'Joof Radio' by beginning of the current century. Its stil somehow like a sign that he is done with 'global trance grooves'. Idk but it is still going in my mind in some way....

 

[Progrez]

It's still interesting.

He dropped the Iconic name 'Global Trance Grooves' and renamed his show to 'Joof Radio' by beginning of the current century. Its stil somehow like a sign that he is done with 'global trance grooves'. Idk but it is still going in my mind in some way....

It could be because he obviously couldn't call or use the "Trance" label because he was being grouped with the likes of Armin.

 

[Sean Cong]

His A&R Daniel Lesden currently represents the new movement of trance music from the likes of Oprofessionell, Omformer, Ekkel, Asca, Ezy, Intuition, Mikkel Rev, Skodde, Ottersbo, Ayim, Slym, Liso or Scano in his "Rave Podcast" show.

Sadly, no single release or EP from these amazing artists have seen light on JOOF so far...

I have started to pay attention to some "truly underground" trance from Jan 2023 when I entered TranceFix, with labels such as UTE by Omformer from Oslo, <AIR WAYS> by Alpha Tracks from Vienna, and Space Trax from Berlin. (Robert Vadney is also doing pretty well in the near-mainstream)

These are truly a shining light in the current trance scenes, but those labels are mostly based on Bandcamp only, making it hard for me to find and follow those labels and tracks. Maybe TranceFix can help me more on finding these tracks.

I am really hoping that this kind of underground trance music can be presented to larger labels and a wider audience, so even the slightest sign of that will enter my eyes, such as Nordic Echoes - Ice Giant / Starbound in JOOF, DJ Keyframe - Desert Island in Pure Trance (even though the one released is a speed-down version), and Astral Bandit - Different Kind of Friend in Lost Language (even though the arrangement is pretty mainstream).

Pity that Daniel Lesden hasn't been working on this Podcast since March 2025, hope he is doing well in his career. I really like his track "Dark Entity".

 

[Sean Cong]

I think the whole deep trance tagging was invented by @Enlusion correct me if I am wrong. JOOF did have an influence and so did Daniel lesden. The name change of the radioshow was clearly a marketing ploy to get more attention to his name and brand. Most of progressive stuff JOOF plays they have a lot of templated percussions which sound too flat imo. You should check out the stuff from 2003 - 2017 of JOOF radioshow.

I don't know who came up with the term, but I still remember deeply about John 00 Fleming's long post in 2021, which titled "Let's have an open talk about trance & progressive trance".
And I still remember the word "progressive today = trance as they remember in the past", "trance today = powerful euphoric anthems".

This is the earliest thing I could remember about the later-named deep trance. The Chinese trance community is pretty isolated back then (less but still isolated now), but we did notice this post and the "dark-progressive" trance trend in time.

 

[Katadunkass]

Please don't just be dull "techno" labeled as "Underground", please don't just be dull "techno" labeled as "Underground", please don't just be dull "techno" labeled as "Underground"

 

[Sean Cong]

Please don't just be dull "techno" labeled as "Underground", please don't just be dull "techno" labeled as "Underground", please don't just be dull "techno" labeled as "Underground"

I think those are underground trance. Techno-influenced but not mainly techno.

Edit:
I am talking about stuff like UTE as underground trance, which is similar to what you have mixed in the latest TF Radio. The dull "melodic techno" or mainstream techno stuff of the modern-day PvD is nowhere near the underground.
In terms of John 00 Fleming's album, I think it is controversial to say whether it's in the mainstream or the underground (or neither). But it is trance.

Apologies for misinterpreting your words.

@Katadunkass

 

[Z Dobrej Woli]

 

[Z Dobrej Woli]

After many false starts, my artist album tour finally begins — starting tomorrow in Bristol (sorry, sold out).

The delays around this album were purely down to me. Writing it has been a deeply emotional and challenging process over the past six years. As a DJ who is constantly driven to evolve musically, my productions have to reflect that evolution, which meant continually revisiting and refining the music. At the same time, the scene itself has shifted significantly over recent years, and navigating where I fit musically has been an intense journey. Much of the delay came from realigning older tracks with where I was heading as a DJ, ensuring everything felt honest and true.

Making music has never come easily for me. I’m my own toughest critic, always striving to better myself, and each track takes time to be born. There has to be an emotional connection to what’s happening in my life — that’s where my inspiration comes from. I’ve been fortunate that my career has never been built around churning out releases like a factory. I need purpose and inspiration to create, which can be challenging when you’re constantly on the road touring and fighting for studio time in between — but somehow I manage it.

I often think back to the bands I grew up listening to. Their singles were usually written to play it safe for the masses, but I’d always look forward to their albums where you truly got an honest glimpse into their souls — a space where they could breathe creatively, free from commercial pressure. Freedom. Honesty. That feels increasingly rare today, where many artist albums exist mainly as marketing tools — short 2 minute tracks designed for streaming playlists and festival sets, leaving us disconnected from the person behind the music, we don’t know who the person is behind that marketing mask.

It was important to me that this album is filled with honesty, just like my DJ sets. Every track is a rare glimpse into my private world, written around real life events — the good, the bad, and the ugly. That tension gets released during long studio sessions; it’s therapy for me, and the reason I feel such a deep connection to every track. It’s also what keeps me grounded as a person.
As always, I’ll do things my own way. The tracks are long — some 12 minutes — because that’s how long the story needed to unfold. There are 18 tracks in total, each one intentional.

We’ve set in stone the release date the end of March, and I can’t wait to be playing all these tracks for you throughout this year and seeing your reactions. The tour begins! Many more dates will be added, keep an eye here for my tour dates.

Thank you all for your patience and continued support, its been a journey!

 

[Katadunkass]

Fucking finally