OUT Lange - God Loves The Truth [Create Music]

[Jetflag]

Ooooh that autocorrect is gold!! I’ve had my fill of anti this and anti that with no evidence whatsoever. I face it a lot as an expert in my field. If these nutters turn their own lens on themselves you’d think they’d evaluate their BS as exactly that, but they don’t, because they decided their view then gone searching for ‘evidence’ to support it, and guess what?? Found it in other nutters unsubstantiated ramblings on the internet. The first time I found myself defending peer reviewed science against ‘google’ was pretty worrying. The biggest issue here is it’s not ok to let these people have the loudest voice and start to influence the narrative. The truth is that which is established scientifically, by questioning and testing until satisfactory based on an agreed set of rules, and is testable by multiple independent analyses returning the same result (we do this as a species). And, critically, remains testable and up for scrutiny. In the first paper I got published I made it REEEEEALLY clear what I did and didn’t know for certain, to promote questions and further work. Once we question that method, we are fucked

Except that. In lange’s case from what I can tell (trying to stay away from twitter as much as possible) he doesn’t question the scientific methodology.

he questions what comes after

so policies, implementations, corporate speak, hitpieces etc. Many of which (intentionally) misinterpret said peer reviewed research to push a corporate or political agenda.


a great fairly innocent example of this that you might like as a fellow space nerd is the whole shitstorm regarding the Alcubierre paper

Scientific conclusion of the paper:
- it is, within the bounds of general/special relativity mathematically possible to go ftl.

the press (and even nasa)
- STAR TREK WARPSPEED TRAVEL TO OTHzeR PLANETS POSSIBLE WITHIN FEW DECADEs!!!!

(facepalm)

and this is basically why we can’t have nice things.

Not only is a lot of most published research wrong post hoc... People with vested interest will abuse said papers for their own gain without going through the motion of actually checking or understanding said paper. This goes for both “nutters” and “institutionalists”

 

[Hot Tuna]

What was that you were saying about unsubstantiated ramblings...

 

[Jetflag]

'Tin Foil Hat Twat'

nice

I have one hanging in my production folder titled NPC

 

[LostLegend]

A perfect example of separating art from the artist really.

Seems a nice enough fella from the interactions I had with him. Felt he was trying to dig too deep at one point when he was retweeting David Icke and Right Said Fred ( )
Ah well.

Good tune though!

 

[Super-Frog Saves Tokyo]

Obviously, I jest, but the effect of social media on mental health can be catastrophic for many (myself and peers included).

I believe sometimes it can force us to latch on to tenuous perceived threats and hyper focus on them rather than truly deal with our personal demons.

Right Said Fred can fuck off, though...

A lot of these idiots are in it for the pure grift and clicks, and sadly some good people who need help choose to get themselves caught up in the subsequent wave.

Weirdly, you don't often meet these people in real life, nor these attitudes so I'm sure there's some Freudian theory that explains that phenomena.

 

[Magdelayna]

Stuart seemed a nice guy when i met him last Summer - i think there was something dodgy about Covid aswell. Its weird how they suddenly stopped talking about in the media. Lockdown ended,and that was pretty much it. Does that make me a weirdo....

 

[Super-Frog Saves Tokyo]

Stuart seemed a nice guy when i met him last Summer - i think there was something dodgy about Covid aswell. Its weird how they suddenly stopped talking about in the media. Lockdown ended,and that was pretty much it. Does that make me a weirdo....

Absolutely not. That makes you an individual, with your own opinion, and that's the beautiful thing about the world we live in at times.

Everyone has the right to their own beliefs.

Personally, for me, I choose to believe science over Barry from Wrexham who did his own 'research' online.

But that's my personal opinion as a person who is alive and continues to be alive due to science.

 

[Magdelayna]

Absolutely not. That makes you an individual, with your own opinion, and that's the beautiful thing about the world we live in at times.

Everyone has the right to their own beliefs.

Personally, for me, I choose to believe science over Barry from Wrexham who did his own 'research' online.

But that's my personal opinion as a person who is alive and continues to be alive due to science.

I chose not to get jabbed - so does that meant i dont believe in the science?

 

[LostLegend]

I chose not to get jabbed - so does that meant i dont believe in the science?

Surely only you can answer that?

 

[Magdelayna]

Surely only you can answer that?

Why does science even come into it and be mentioned? I just believed in my immune system lol.

 

[Jetflag]

The problem with mass social media is imo two fold:

1 scale. The whole world whom you do not know and they don’t know you can see and react.

2 in case of twitter: limitation on caracters. It seems to bring out the worst in people.

I would count this forum as my only “ social media”.. other then that I’ve deleted everything.

Concerning COVID: obviously things where rushed which means mistakes have been made and half truths have been told/ sold…it would, imo, “sier” the institutions trying to defend their credibility (with all best intent) to acknowledge that and apologise where necessary..instead of trying to uphold their reputation via coverup, cancel culture and pretending nothing happened, which will ultimately backfire and will harm science as a philosophy and institution in the long run.

Lange and his views are just an effect of this, not the cause.

But we have an entire thread for that in the off-topic section… so… end rant

track is ok and so is Lange, probably

 

[Jetflag]

Why does science even come into it and be mentioned? I just believed in my immune system lol.

You’re not alone m8. I trusted mine but was glad my 70old 3 time cancer surviving mom got some help with hers

 

[Magdelayna]

You could have any number of reasons as to why you chose not to get jabbed.

All of them entirely down to you, and also personal to you.

I'm sure whatever your reasons, you're happy with them and confident in your convictions.

There was no reason - i just didnt have it.

 

[Jetflag]

There was no reason - i just didnt have it.

And that’s also perfectly fine my man

 

[Archon]

If you guys would like to debate this elsewhere, give me a link and I'll move the posts, free of charge. We got like 3 comments on the actual track.

 

[Super-Frog Saves Tokyo]

If you guys would like to debate this elsewhere, give me a link and I'll move the posts, free of charge. We got like 3 comments on the actual track.

It's what he would've wanted