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TRANCEBLASTER

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Heavy, serious music doesn't align with this. If it needs time to understand or is an acquired taste, they'll likely pass on it. This could also explain why neo-rave is a rising "genre", and trance responded with those short superfast euro-dancey tracks.
I don’t have the slightest clue whether your statement is true or not.... right now, psychedelic, spacey 'Techno' is extremely popular on European techno stages—artists and labels like 'Space Drum Meditation', 'Fur:ther Sessions', 'Human Space Machine', or 'Qilla Records', 'Electric Shapes' etc.... many forum members would probably argue that their tracks are long and uneventful, but this particular sound is currently leading the scene...


the superfast Euro-dance stuff is popular at commercial festivals, where someone like 'Guetta' might be performing on the adjacent stage. I wouldn't take it so seriously; people love it precisely for the cringe factor
 

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I don’t have the slightest clue whether your statement is true or not.... right now, psychedelic, spacey 'Techno' is extremely popular on European techno stages—artists and labels like 'Space Drum Meditation', 'Fur:ther Sessions', 'Human Space Machine', or 'Qilla Records', 'Electric Shapes' etc.... many forum members would probably argue that their tracks are long and uneventful, but this particular sound is currently leading the scene...


the superfast Euro-dance stuff is popular at commercial festivals, where someone like 'Guetta' might be performing on the adjacent stage. I wouldn't take it so seriously; people love it precisely for the cringe factor
I take back my comment. Totally forgot that part. Their sets have lots of long classic tracks. But how did that happened. Do the promotor pushing out parties until it works?
 

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I take back my comment. Totally forgot that part. Their sets have lots of long classic tracks. But how did that happened. Do the promotor pushing out parties until it works?
'Techno' is a club mainstream all over Europe, with the UK being perhaps the only exception where it's not quite the case. when I first hit the dancefloors in the late 90s, industrial, monotonous 'Techno' was trending... artists like 'Regis', 'James Ruskin', 'Christian Wünsch', or 'Inigo Kennedy' for an example. the biggest hit back then was 'Speak To Me' and people still go crazy to this day whenever someone drops it. since then, the character of 'Techno' has naturally evolved every five years :: moving from the days when no samples or melodies were allowed, through techno with latin influences, all the way to melodic techno with speak samples. right now, this spacey, atmospheric 'Techno' is what's trending, but I think it's a very natural progression.. in the next again something new will come
 
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it’s interesting, almost strange, to see that you view 'Trance' as streaming music, because I think of it strictly as club music....
Interesting that you say that because I can guarantee you I never went to a club not even once in my entire life. I just don't like the idea of it.

I did go to some open air festivals though, but I very rarely if ever heard Trance in any form there.

I did hear some Euro and Dream Trance classics from the 90's in some Water-themed places and activities like hydro-gymnastics and Aquaparks though. I heard Children, 9PM and Better Off Alone in places like those.

I also remember hearing some other Trance classics on the radio even before I became a Trance fan in late 2008. I remember Kaycee - Escape being played on the radio or some events of the time back when I was a little kid.

But, for the most part, Trance Music has always been a personal at home, walking and sometimes running activity. Actually I could not care less about clubbing or festivals, for the most part. In fact, I've always liked Trance because it has always worked really well outside the club/festival scene.

And I can guarantee you as well that Trance has always been way more than club music. I remember tracks like Drifting Away or Take Me Away being played as radio songs, in fact, back in the 90's and for a great part of the 2000's there were many compilation series like Dream Dance and Future Trance which would include mostly radio edit version of Trance tracks although not exclusively Trance tracks. Streaming is just a natural extension of that. And considering how for the most part the so called "original version" a.k.a. the current edited version tends to have far more streams than the extended mixes show Trance like many other genres are streaming music. Thinking of Trance Music and Electronic Dance Music as a whole as "strictly club music" is actually incredibly reductive in many ways.

But, as for the topic itself, for the most part this isn't wrong. Unfortunately attention spans have dropped significantly in the last few decades. This is mostly the algorithm and social media's fault. Unfortunately this has permeated into music too. Nowadays people want easy quick dopamine fixes. Sometimes they don't even make the track run until the end, and this is something I've noticed happening since as early as 2016. I remember seeing people skipping a track after the main chorus happened which would probably be after 1:15 or something like that, which was extremely annoying to me because I was enjoying a certain track and then all of a sudden they skip to the next one. So, as you can see, this trend is actually older than one would expect.

And even I myself have become somewhat a victim of this as well. Long gone were the times when I would regularly listen to 10min long Trance and Progressive tracks on a regular basis. Even I myself admit to be somewhat a victim of this as well.

Plus, we have to have something in mind: Some extended mixes are not even available on streaming services themselves, heck, not even on YouTube sometimes! And even the extended mixes themselves for the most part have become pretty much pointless for the most part nowadays. The only thing they do is add some build-up before the important/relevant part of the track and then a quick outro to it. For the most part the extended mixes only serve as DJ-friendly tools and pretty much nothing else these days.

In my case, I'm not a huge victim of the algorithm myself because I like to search for music on my own, although the algorithm does give me some recommendations. But, for the most part, I just see what my favourite artists have released on Spotify and I do look for some algorithm recommendation on YT while trying to look for some new or undiscovered music myself.
 

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Ignoring track length, labels nowadays are actually mislabeling their releases. Original mix means the one the artist originally created. Radio edits aren't the original, regardless if they're called "original mix".

Here's an extreme example:

I guarantee you Allan didn't make the "Original Mix" first only to then extend it into the "Extended Mix". He'd have made the one labeled "Extended Mix" first and then shortened it (twice apparently).

But yeah, sucks that tracks are getting shorter since it's all about maximizing plays and money.
 

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Interesting that you say that because I can guarantee you I never went to a club not even once in my entire life. I just don't like the idea of it.
well, you must be from a completely different generation. for my generation, going to a club was like going to church for someone else. it was the absolute hottest thing of our time... there were posters all over the streets, and radio stations ran contests for event tickets... for me, listening to music only at home or through headphones is unacceptable.. it's simply not enough..

I heard the best music of my life right there in clubs. our local scene was quite strong, and we were lucky to have great local DJs, thanks to whom I can say I got into better music right away. a lot of people from my high school used to go to clubs, too.. in my hometown I had plenty of friends among punks and hip-hoppers who also strongly supported their own scenes.

every now and then, you could hear some great music late at night on the radio, or sometimes you'd get your hands on a compilation or magazine with CD, but the absolute best and most cutting-edge music was, without a doubt, in the clubs...

when I listen to new releases, I usually imagine how they would affect me in a club.)

I did hear some Euro and Dream Trance classics from the 90's in some Water-themed places and activities like hydro-gymnastics and Aquaparks though. I heard Children, 9PM and Better Off Alone in places like those.

I also remember hearing some other Trance classics on the radio even before I became a Trance fan in late 2008. I remember Kaycee - Escape being played on the radio or some events of the time back when I was a little kid.

I have nothing against the era when 'Trance' was commercially successful, but it is important to note that all those popular tracks were released with the backing of giant major labels like 'Universal Music' or 'Sony Music'. without their support, I believe 'Trance' wouldn't have become so massive. once these labels lost interest in the genre, it fell into sterility.

for me, for instance, 'Trance' became increasingly weak after 2004. the basslines started to become, let's call it, asexual, and the melodiousness of some tracks had the vibe of a romantic movie broadcast on TV on a sunday afternoon.

since you started with Trance in 2008, you grew up on completely different music than I did, and you probably understand it differently, too
 
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