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not a bad interview, I never knew that 'Sven Väth' inspired him to start djing
RA interview: Tiësto responds to sellout critics and underground purists
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Tievb21
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I watched it all, very nice interview indeed. Tijs is cool, always was. His replies on Trance are clever and he seem honest. As he says, people in our scene can be a little harsh sometimes, as in all genres with "purist" fans.
Hopefully he will continue in this path he has taken the last 1 year and he will continue with great trance sets, where he does what he was always doing, playing great tracks of other genres too As ISOS were never really just trance, etc.
I hope he will be here to stay with us for a long, long, long time. He can help enormously making Trance again more famous to the youth. Something sometimes I do not like much is that in trance festicals, the mean age has increased a lot...with us lol, we are not young anymore. Trance needs the energy 16-25s have for sure. And more producers will follow with more and more new flavors of Trance. LFG.
Hopefully he will continue in this path he has taken the last 1 year and he will continue with great trance sets, where he does what he was always doing, playing great tracks of other genres too As ISOS were never really just trance, etc.
I hope he will be here to stay with us for a long, long, long time. He can help enormously making Trance again more famous to the youth. Something sometimes I do not like much is that in trance festicals, the mean age has increased a lot...with us lol, we are not young anymore. Trance needs the energy 16-25s have for sure. And more producers will follow with more and more new flavors of Trance. LFG.
facade1984
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whether you think tiesto sold out or not he'll always be one of the greats to me. yeah I'm an underground trance guy mostly but I mostly listen to just about everything but, so I respect whenever folks decide they wanna produce entirely different things. trance is just a tiny part of a massive spectrum and I worry that folks can get almost tribalistic about that sometimes. anyway, will always love tiesto and even though he relies on other producers a lot, during his trance heyday all his stuff had a really unique signature sound to it. his tracks always stood out to me because I love a bit of wonky/unpolished sound design when done properly. some of his more recent stuff doesn't sound too bad to me. not what I'd play at all but if I was out in a club getting pissed I'd dance to it
Jetflag
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yeah I never got the whole
"he butwayed trance!" thing surrounding him...
1: as if the man is somehow obliged to make what you like instead of what he likes.
2: his old tracks are still out there you know?
he didn't change them, removed them from stores etc. so he quit your hobby for a time being big deal... plenty of other trance artists/dj's to go around and if he picks it up again? great...if he doesn't also great.
Tiësto gave me some of the best clubbing nights in my life. I don’t care he sold out or changed styles. He will always be a legend to me.
facade1984
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Yeah folks take it way too personal when a guy they don't know makes music they don't like. Like you say just be grateful that he already left behind a huge pile of classicsyeah I never got the whole
"he butwayed trance!" thing surrounding him...
1: as if the man is somehow obliged to make what you like instead of what he likes.
2: his old tracks are still out there you know?
so he quit your hobby for a time being big deal... plenty of other trance artists/dj's to go around and if he picks it up again? great...if he doesn't also great.
Nobody cried when I stopped making big room trance and I'm way better looking
Arnoud
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*His ghostproducer(s) left a huge pile of classics. Nonetheless he made a great impact on the trance scene with his sets and compilations.
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Tiesto responds that listeners develop a fixed view of how he should sound, and that any deviation from that is what leads to the purist dissatisfaction, or even anger. It's a disingenuous framing. It is not that he deviated, it is how. Many people do not like to see the beauty and substance stripped away in favor of commercial appeal. We recognize that those two things are more often antithetical, incompatible, and a distinction starts to form between what is creation vs. manufacturing, long-lasting vs. throwaway. If Tiesto changed to Drum & Bass, or Ambient, but still showed commitment to artistic integrity, there will be no backlash. That's what irks the purists the most, it's the abandonment of quality for material gain. We don't like to see it. And I don't fault him for that decision by the way, but his answer is not the full picture.
Such a good interview. She is really good at framing questions and at least we don't the same generic replies like from another *clears throat* dutch DJ *clear throat*
I hope you also had the chance to see him live back in those days. I once attended a 12 hour set in The Netherlands. Was really really good. After 2004 I lost interest, but he was so good back then and indeed his old ASOT radioshows and mixalbums were amazing.
He talks a lot of sense about people living out past memories. I was a huge fan of Tiesto between 1998 and 2004 and travelled all over the UK and Europe to watch him. I just long for that feeling back because of the memories I associate with that and he is bang on because I have such vivid memories of that period. I saw Oakey in the Courtyard and was at Gatecrasher most weeks for the peak time but nothing compared to seeing Tiesto/ The PVD 6-hour sets at Gatecrasher were pretty good too!
Nope I was too young at that time only got to hear mix compilations and asot episodes and trance track as well.
facade1984
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They always try and sell the move to commercial sounds as an evolution, but anyone with eyes and ear observes a clear devolution in every aspect
Magdelayna
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I thought 'big room' was that utter shite above and beyond used to play around 2010....farty basslines and all that.
I haven’t watched the interview yet.
But, if you step out of the trance purism bubble for a moment:
Tiesto *adapted* with the times, modernized his sound, and collaborated with young and trendy artists and singers. That made him popular cross-generationally.
A lot of the great trance artists of yesteryear faded into obscurity. And, many of the “authentic trance artists” more or less remained in the same rapidly shrinking trance niche for years until they moved on to other genres like even more niche progressive psytrance or licensable background music (JOOF), or altogether had to quit / severely reduce their involvement in music production to focus on their day jobs, teach music, etc. (Airwave)
this isn’t a dig at anyone. This is just what things look like from the perspective of an external observer once you look at several artists’ trajectories throughout the decades with no attachment to any trajectory in particular
But, if you step out of the trance purism bubble for a moment:
Tiesto *adapted* with the times, modernized his sound, and collaborated with young and trendy artists and singers. That made him popular cross-generationally.
A lot of the great trance artists of yesteryear faded into obscurity. And, many of the “authentic trance artists” more or less remained in the same rapidly shrinking trance niche for years until they moved on to other genres like even more niche progressive psytrance or licensable background music (JOOF), or altogether had to quit / severely reduce their involvement in music production to focus on their day jobs, teach music, etc. (Airwave)
this isn’t a dig at anyone. This is just what things look like from the perspective of an external observer once you look at several artists’ trajectories throughout the decades with no attachment to any trajectory in particular