Skylander (feat. Senseii) - Separation (Version 2)

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I have come up with another oldschool track. Tried to make sth like Above & Beyond or Super8 style of 2001-2004, but ended up making more Daniel Kandi 2007 style😅. Anyway, waiting for some feedback.

Edit: Much improvement has been made to mix, but we need to know your opinion on the track (especially if it perfectly tackles oldschool sounding or not), as we have plans on releasing it to vinyl. Please feel free to give any comments on the track. Thx in advance!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DbWmWwAefXEDRfgCfo3XjsB7llOXsNTy/view?usp=sharing
 
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I like how this sounds, however I'm not sure if I think it's finished. The break/climax sound like they are missing something, however I can't quite pinpoint what it is.
 
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I like how this sounds, however I'm not sure if I think it's finished. The break/climax sound like they are missing something, however I can't quite pinpoint what it is.
Of course it's not finished) There are lots of work with effects, cleaning the mix and making final arrangement. About break, is that somewhere at 3:00 that worries you?
 

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Mmm, I think the piano melody is slightly too cheesy/orchestral sounding combined with too one-dimensional/simple/melodramatic. Both the actual chords and the execution. The production is very balanced-sounding and lacking in dynamics thorughout, its almost borderline sounding flat. Need a little more beefed-up sound/contrast. Up until the first break it sounds fine (1.38.) but the stringpad melody there just takes the melody to a completey different cheesy direction for me into this more "orchestral" sound that producers from the 2010- are more known for. It also doesnt line up well with you had before that so it starts sounding like a completely different track for me.

I think where you need practice is the actual melodies and how to execute them in a more "classy" way. I think you nail the basics/foundation of the track pretty well with choosing the right kicks, basslines, hats,fx etc for this sound though.

Overall summed up:

Too cheesy
A bit too simple/repetitv melody (the piano almost sounds like a really cheap digital keyboard default sound)
More dynamics
Outro it way too basic/simple
Lacks a strong consistent progression
 
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^i'll have you know that comments like those from @Daysleeper can be considered a massive compliment.

I deviate from it a bit in the sense that I actually love the piano, but only as a lead sound. reminds me of the ol'balearic days. I recommend recyling the midi of the main melody that comes in the break, but using a different synth sound/ pluck for it. Agreed on the notion that you have most elements in place all it needs is building out.

Strings/pad, especially in the break need work aswell as transitions in the arrangement as a final pointer.
 
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^i'll have you know that comments like those from @Daysleeper can be considered a massive compliment.

I deviate from it a bit in the sense that I actually love the piano, but only as a lead sound. reminds me of the ol'balearic days. I recommend recyling the midi of the main melody that comes in the break, but using a different synth sound/ pluck for it. Agreed on the notion that you have most elements in place all it needs is building out.

Strings/pad, especially in the break need work aswell as transitions in the arrangement as a final pointer.
Did I get it correct that I need to change 8-bit lead to another instrument?
 

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Did I get it correct that I need to change 8-bit lead to another instrument?
I don't know how many bit your sound its m8 nor is it relevant ;) so to clarify:


The piano lead that comes it at 0:54 can stay, I think its great

The strings that come in at 1:37 needs work/change right... now it sounds like a casio keyboard preset to me Hollow/flat/ basic not very lush. etc. It needs work.

The pianosound that comes in at 2:11 I would replace with something else whilst keeping the melody. Maybe a sublte thrillseeker/hydra esq sawtooth pluck with a lot of automation or so.
 
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I don't know how many bit your sound its m8 nor is it relevant ;) so to clarify:


The piano lead that comes it at 0:54 can stay, I think its great

The strings that come in at 1:37 needs work/change right... now it sounds like a casio keyboard preset to me Hollow/flat/ basic not very lush. etc. It needs work.

The pianosound that comes in at 2:11 I would replace with something else whilst keeping the melody. Maybe a sublte thrillseeker/hydra esq sawtooth pluck with a lot of automation or so.
I got it. About pads at 1:40 - absolutely agree, they need some work. Piano synth from 2:11 - I'd like to keep it. I feel that this would differ my track from all others with classical pluck synths in breakdown.
I'd also like to know your opinion on progressive pluck starting at 2:40 in breakdown and at 4:00)
Anyway, thank you for your feedback
 

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hey, i keep coming back to your track. when can i expect something new?
you have unique melodies though simple
overall very positive vibes
 

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hey, i keep coming back to your track. when can i expect something new?
you have unique melodies though simple
overall very positive vibes
Hi, man! Thank you for your message! Me and my friend are still working on this and other projects. Maybe I'll publish sth within a month, but no promises, 'cuz we both have our own issues that we need to sort out. However, what I can promise is that the track Ayame-Hime is gonna be released soon, but with different title and much edited (surprise awaits you heheheh). Plans: one more trance track and try sth out beyond trance floor) Maybe, Japanese artcore.
 

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you can easily give midi, I do not have great skills to benefit from it, it is only for training. besides, if I wanted to copy it, I could do it. it is more about making friends and having fun
 

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Next comment stating that I'm not 19 but 40, and I'm sending a photo of my int'l passport!!! :D
I'm seriously 19 yo, I just practiced writing oldschool trance a lot)

do not give your passport online crazy: D

kidding ;)
 

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hey, did you do anything with the pads? they seem more perceptible, which definitely has a positive effect on the mood! I may think it hit me on the ear today. Or maybe I listen to your song too often? sounds better and better anyway!
talk to your mate about this midi, i'll do something nice

Your song motivates me a lot and that is what I miss the most recently
 
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Some nice elements to this but for me they don't always gel together that well. With the Kick and Bass groove the bass seems a little loud to me and I'm not a huge fan of that piano when it first comes in on it's own but it seems to work nicely when it comes back later in the track. Definitely worth to keep working on it.
 
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