I disagree with all of you people. I don't mind long tracks. I don't want to imagine how all of you people listen drone or space ambient or any kind of ambient that's long and slow. You guys probably don't have the patience to sit through it all.
The Digital Blonde & Idiosyncrasy - The Drake Equation [JOOF Recordings]
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Just exactly what I'm thinking about. I didn't get anything when I heard his N3ON album for the first time. And this is now one of my top 10 trance albums (that has got a multi-platform global release) since 2020.
Yes, so I listen to it very often, but most of the times I will directly skip from the end of the intro to roughly 06:00 to continue.
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He would benefit from cutting the length down some yes. He's still a sick producer either way.
Nonsense how many minutes does he need to cut it down? He may as well create tiktok trance.
I agree with you - he has his own niche, he feels good in it. There’s only one example of his track that I think it could be shorter and it’s „Electric Stars” with definitely too long outro; the other ones are built properly for these lenghts.
Not every trance lover can accept a loop going on and on for several minutes in the dancefloor.
You've talked about ambient before. The "forever-looping" ambient works perfectly well for listening at home or at work, but they didn't work in dancefloors. If you are more used to listening to tracks at home, then it is reasonable for a listener to feel insensitive to how many minutes has passed, but things do change when you go to clubs.
I am also a home listener, so I'm OK with lengthy tracks. But moreover, it's not a 100%-length thing. For myself, the 17-min "Balerika" (which is by far the longest Blonde track) feels less lengthy than the 15-min Spaceman Remix, since I can hear "Balerika" progresses through time, but the Spaceman Remix sounds just like looping and looping until ~07:00 when there's is finally progress.
I think this effect counts.
I don't know maybe I am just a lot more patient compared other people.
I've been many club events and dance floors. I have been listening to the dance music genres for over 30 years. This track hardly loops on an ambient soundscape for over 13 minutes now does it? and by the way I wonder if you feel the same way about Metaphorique(Ferry Tayle's Remix) that's almost nearly 13 minutes long too.
Thanks for your opinion. I was previously talking about the 14-min vocal version of the Spaceman Remix,
The 13-min officially-released "Spaceman Dub" definite sound less lengthy. Not only because of its shorter length, but also he has put those "transitions" (I'm not sure if I'm using the right words) much earlier, and it is definitely not dull at any sense in my opinion. It has put the breakdown nearly right at the middle of the track.
And yes, patience does matter. I also agree that there are some feelings in trance that can only be conveyed in an epic 9min+ (or even 10min+) track.
Apologies for I have to listen to "Metaphorique (Ferry Tayle's Remix)" later today, unable to immediately respond.
My point was also the fact long tracks have always been part of trance. That's an awesome track by DB. One of his best so far. Dark & Long by Underworld is almost 11 minutes long and that was made in 1994
Sasha - Xpander: \(10:45\)Bedrock - Heaven Scent: \(10:19\)Push - Universal Nation (Original Mix): \(10:17\) aria dido (armin van buuren universal religion remix) is more than 11:24, As The Rush Comes (Perry O'Neil Remix) is 12:30 long and Markus Schulz is 11:50 long. etc etc
Narel
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It doesn't do enough over its length IMO. If it was shorter (and this isn't a general criticism of DB's long tracks - just this one) and the arrangement built more tension and had up's and down's in energy it would hit a lot better i.e. those hooks would be more effective. I hear ya on 'Atlas Winds', I love that tune... but its unfair as I spent 6 years living in the middle east which made me a sucker for any arabian vox and the phrygian scale stuff that arabic music uses so much.
Perpetuous dreamer
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This is good, but the comments on the excessive length are on point. I'll be blasting this anyway.
Air_Water
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How have the forum's resident kick police not turned the sirens on for this one? Is this not "sledgehammer" guys? Bit much in my opinion, but the track does actually slap once it gets going. Dark and furious.
Sleepy Robot
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Took me a few listens too (like many of DB's his tracks) but like most others it has grown on me and i will support it.
I'm not sure DB makes tracks for the dancefloor but that's my opinion, i never go clubbing or to festivals so it's all @home/work/commute/gym e.a. listening for me. Does he ever get played in sets?
Although i can agree that some tracks could use with a minute or so less playtime or some filling on the intro/outro , it's not a big dealbreaker for me.
And let's not forget this is a collaboration: Congrats with being TOTW @Idiosyncrasy Future Music !
I'm not sure DB makes tracks for the dancefloor but that's my opinion, i never go clubbing or to festivals so it's all @home/work/commute/gym e.a. listening for me. Does he ever get played in sets?
Although i can agree that some tracks could use with a minute or so less playtime or some filling on the intro/outro , it's not a big dealbreaker for me.
And let's not forget this is a collaboration: Congrats with being TOTW @Idiosyncrasy Future Music !