brandonl
Senior Member
yes I agree. which is why i'm not a libetarian but a classical liberal, and as such not opposed to the concept of the Nationstate and/or governments. I believe we're actually never going to get a perfect 1 size fits all system and instead you need multible independend ones constatly pushing and pulling on one another to reach a sort of...optimal impasse. if that makes sense.
Capitalism is misstakenly seen by most as a top down implied system. Its not. is a bottom up consequence of Liberalism a.k.a the recognition of sovereignty of the individual, its right to own the fruits of its labour and its freedom to engange in mutual trade.
much like democracy, who also puts the emphasis on the soverneignty of the individual and its freedom to engage with the democratic process via its voice/vote. because regardless of the makeup of the group. the lowest intersection / common demonitator will always be the individual.
and in that sense they both perfectly align with one of my favorite churchill quotes.
"Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
Same goes for capitalism and its imperfecies in a sense. There simply isnt any demonstrably better working system available, untill someone invents it at which point i would like to be the first to know.
I agree that capitalism is currently the best economic system because it has lifted the most people out of poverty and done the most to eliminate inequality. This is a positive side benefit of governments/corporations/industries creating an economic system they control and benefit mostly from by the rest of society who has to struggle their whole lives to achieve a half decent society. It is to their gain that we achieve those goals in order to get the most amount of people supporting an otherwise terrible system that leaves way too many people behind and those who benefit still have little say or control over a system that still enslaves and oppresses them.
People are blind to see that. They go along with a system they are born into, that they know their whole life's and know nothing else. People live comfortable enough, and are too afraid to support radical change for a better system or world for themselves and others. It seems too impossible to imagine so people fold and accept what exists. That's how governments control people, by giving people enough to accept the system and not enough to be truly be free and in control of one's life.
I don't like this system at all. I feel we can do better. I feel like a slave, i feel oppressed by a system with too many problems, one which i have very little control and influence over.
What we need is molecular nanotechnology just like in Star Trek (aka the replicator) that can create raw materials, finished goods, food etc. That would eliminate scarcity and prevent the need to have capitalism or force people to work for money in order to life. The big 4 as i call it (machines, automation, robotics and A.I.) can replace human labor while people enjoy the finished goods. we need to move towards a society where people can control their own futures and pursue their own path while a social system to take care of them and provide basic needs without being forced to spend an entire life providing that for one's self. That's true freedom and liberty to me. That gives people a chance to pursue a higher purpose and focus on bigger issues that concern people.