Trance artists and war in Ukraine

[Strong_listener]

Потому что у некоторых из нас там живут родственники, и мы получаем прямые сообщения от людей, которых любим и которым доверяем.

And I live here, and it's really funny to read these messages about how terrible my life is. And only Iranians can be against it? Why does one country located across the ocean bomb other countries? Kidnap the president of another country? How many wars have Russia and the US started? Moreover, Russia is protecting its national interests, exactly the same way the US does, but in one case, there's attacks from all sides only on Russia, and in the other, it's supposedly different and we need to understand. Just admit to yourselves already that you are hypocrites.

Of course, a bot, yes I am a trans producer from Russia, I don't want to reveal my name here because kind 'friends' from Ukraine have caused me a lot of trouble. And they do it very skillfully - first they write something nasty to you, and when you reply to them in the same manner, they only screenshot your message and start posting it, saying how bad you are. Or they reply to your promo mailing with 'don't send us Russian crap!' Do you consider this normal? So yes, I consider Ukrainians to be pathetic whiners.

 

[Julian Del Agranda]

So yes, I consider Ukrainians to be pathetic whiners.

Ragebait much.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

I am a trans producer

I agree with your views mate but you would want to correct the writing here

 

[Pokkryshkin]

Strong_listener is just a troll. Those arguments/talking points are so outdated even the propaganda on Russian TV isn’t saying such nonsense right now. He’s clearly just trying to bait you. He probably even registered specifically to write that. I seriously doubt he is Russian, although the narratives are truly identical to what was on Russian TV about three years ago. "I am a trans producer from Russia"

 

[Strong_listener]

Strong_listener is just a troll. Those arguments/talking points are so outdated even the propaganda on Russian TV isn’t saying such nonsense right now. He’s clearly just trying to bait you. He probably even registered specifically to write that. I seriously doubt he is Russian, although the narratives are truly identical to what was on Russian TV about three years ago. "I am a trans producer from Russia"

Ровным счетом как и ваши потуги запретить артистов за то, что едут выступать в Россию. Вы же только "трансгендерный продюсер" увидели, но ничего не вынесли. Ну это уже классика, говорить, что мы тут все с промытыми мозгами, только вы светоч правды и демократии. Я буду писать по русски, чтобы вам было понятнее.

 

[Strong_listener]

I agree with your views mate but you would want to correct the writing here

Потому что английский - не мой язык, а переводчик не всегда переводит правильно.

 

[Pokkryshkin]

Потому что английский - не мой язык, а переводчик не всегда переводит пр

Ровным счетом как и ваши потуги запретить артистов за то, что едут выступать в Россию. Вы же только "трансгендерный продюсер" увидели, но ничего не вынесли. Ну это уже классика, говорить, что мы тут все с промытыми мозгами, только вы светоч правды и демократии. Я буду писать по русски, чтобы вам было понятнее.

You shouldn’t write in Russian at least respect the local rules of its users

 

[Jetflag]

yes I am a trans producer from Russia

This you m8?

 

[Jetflag]

You shouldn’t write in Russian at least respect the local rules of its users

Gotta love how he had to pull my reply through the translator first and then copy paste it back in Cyrillic

 

[Jetflag]

And I live here, and it's really funny to read these messages about how terrible my life is. And only Iranians can be against it? Why does one country located across the ocean bomb other countries? Kidnap the president of another country? How many wars have Russia and the US started? Moreover, Russia is protecting its national interests, exactly the same way the US does, but in one case, there's attacks from all sides only on Russia, and in the other, it's supposedly different and we need to understand. Just admit to yourselves already that you are hypocrites.

Of course, a bot, yes I am a trans producer from Russia, I don't want to reveal my name here because kind 'friends' from Ukraine have caused me a lot of trouble. And they do it very skillfully - first they write something nasty to you, and when you reply to them in the same manner, they only screenshot your message and start posting it, saying how bad you are. Or they reply to your promo mailing with 'don't send us Russian crap!' Do you consider this normal? So yes, I consider Ukrainians to be pathetic whiners.

m8, all you ever do is come here on an alt account and whine in this< particular thread....till you get banned..

You don't contribute to the general music discussion,
you don't engage in the production section,
you don't offtopic bar from this and you don't even big up russian producers in the releases thread.
hell you didn't even introduce yourself coming here..

producer, my ass.

And I never said life isn't good for you it might very well be..I said that doesn't go for everyone, which it doesn't, particular my next of kin (and certain people on this forum aswell fyi). Your the one pretending all is honkeydory for everybody in Russia, not me. You come across like an Auswitch guard who, when asked, proclaims the third reigh is actually great. Yeah sorry, not taking your word for it m8.

And this^ FYI is coming from probably the most Eurosceptic Seperatist here on the entire bloody forum.

Like, I don't know who's a bigger clown in this conflict..

- Putin, who after 4 years still can't capture a prefered province, let alone the whole country, has to beg-buy drones from Iran and soldiers from North Korea, but thinks the war is going great for him.

- or Ursula/Rutte, Who simultaneously think Russia can't even conquer Kiev and can be brought down with "sanctions".... whilst being utterly convinced that the whole of europe and NATO is somehow next if that does happen.

ya can't have it both ways regardless of your ideology and the propaganda you spout. All I know is ordinary Russians and Ukranians are suffering because of it. So I think both your respective rage is misdirected at each other here.


Complain about Trump all you want but at least he is capable of pulling of a succesfull special militairy operation without that lasting 4 year in a stalemate.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

Complain about Trump all you want but at least he is capable of pulling of a succesfull special militairy operation

yea so very successful now lol

(I know you refer to Maduro but that idiot was 99% betrayed by his own allies)

 

[Jetflag]

yea so very successful now lol

(I know you refer to Maduro but that idiot was 99% betrayed by his own allies)

no 4 year war over a single Iranian province yet to my knowledge..

 

[Homer S]

no 4 year war over a single Iranian province yet to my knowledge..

But no SVO in three days as Trump promised.

 

[Strong_listener]

m8, all you ever do is come here on an alt account and whine in this< particular thread....till you get banned..

You don't contribute to the general music discussion,
you don't engage in the production section,
you don't offtopic bar from this and you don't even big up russian producers in the releases thread.
hell you didn't even introduce yourself coming here..

producer, my ass.

And I never said life isn't good for you it might very well be..I said that doesn't go for everyone, which it doesn't, particular my next of kin (and certain people on this forum aswell fyi). Your the one pretending all is honkeydory for everybody in Russia, not me. You come across like an Auswitch guard who, when asked, proclaims the third reigh is actually great. Yeah sorry, not taking your word for it m8.

And this^ FYI is coming from probably the most Eurosceptic Seperatist here on the entire bloody forum.

Like, I don't know who's a bigger clown in this conflict..

- Putin, who after 4 years still can't capture a prefered province, let alone the whole country, has to beg-buy drones from Iran and soldiers from North Korea, but thinks the war is going great for him.

- or Ursula/Rutte, Who simultaneously think Russia can't even conquer Kiev and can be brought down with "sanctions".... whilst being utterly convinced that the whole of europe and NATO is somehow next if that does happen.

ya can't have it both ways regardless of your ideology and the propaganda you spout. All I know is ordinary Russians and Ukranians are suffering because of it. So I think both your respective rage is misdirected at each other here.


Complain about Trump all you want but at least he is capable of pulling of a succesfull special militairy operation without that lasting 4 year in a stalemate.

Еще бы я тут представлялся, я же русский, который за Путина. Даже тут, мой посыл только ты понял и то не совсем правильно. Да, Путину действительно стоило бомбить Киев, так, как это делает Трамп, убивая тысячами мирных людей просто потому что это "сопутствующие потери".

 

[Strong_listener]

Почему-то тут оскорбляют артистов и это в пределах нормы, а писать на другом языке - нарушение правил. С тобой все в порядке?

 

[Strong_listener]

Сколько бы вы тут не защищали бедных хохлов, они вам в итоге поднасрут еще больше, такая у них сущность. И да, когда будете снова писать, что какой-то артист едет в Россию (например Aly&Fila), не забудьте им в соцсетях написать какие они продажные, это же очень красит вас xD
А я удаляюсь отсюда, сборище нацистов.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

okay I take my words back, the guy's nuts

 

[Jetflag]

Сколько бы вы тут не защищали бедных хохлов, они вам в итоге поднасрут еще больше, такая у них сущность. И да, когда будете снова писать, что какой-то артист едет в Россию (например Aly&Fila), не забудьте им в соцсетях написать какие они продажные, это же очень красит вас xD
А я удаляюсь отсюда, сборище нацистов.

K. пока.

next time you write shit in frustration and cope, please read through the thread.

Most people here including me advocate to keep politics out of music and letting Russian artists be…

but you go girl….

 

[trancefan2020]

Please quote me where I have parroted EU imperialist talking points, oh brave Kosak, who no doubt is texting this from the Luhansk frontline..

You just spewed the most stupid EU approved propaganda and I couldn't let it flow. You are saying that Russians are looking for music when they are the ones creating it . There is zero effective difference between Kremlin regime and Brussels regime and your propaganda is the right example. You talk about how Russia started a war but then you brag about how you want Ukraine to fight the war. Save your tears for a guy from Moscow and start worrying about a guy in Marseille , without a job and surrounded by different ethnics who got beat down.

most Russians who attend said parties do so out of a desire for escapism, partly from the harsh reality of living under the Kremlin regime. Its a chance for them to get in contact with what is, arguably, a western, liberal form of music that they may spread the word.

And you wish to deprive them from that? Do you honestly think that the Kremlin, who tenatively still allows said parties (unlike say: kim jong un) does not benefit from you cancelling a western music event so they can double down on their propaganda?

We've seen what isolationism does for similar regimes like north korea and its people....and it doesn't work.

You're not "Fighting for Ukraine and the cancellation of russia" by doing this via attacking ordinary artist/people.

you are making the Ukraine cause, and by extend ukraine itself. increasingly impopular with not just the russian crowd, but the western crowd, most current company in this thread included.

....which in the long run actually hurts the (war) efforts against the Kremlin regime, more then cancelling national an international artists.

 

[Mosquito]

I don't want to reveal my name here because kind 'friends' from Ukraine have caused me a lot of trouble. And they do it very skillfully - first they write something nasty to you, and when you reply to them in the same manner, they only screenshot your message and start posting it, saying how bad you are.

Judging by this and some other details you shared, I can probably guess who you are, and while I won't deanon you, what you're describing as just "replying in the same manner" was in fact much worse than anything that was said to you, and some of the beliefs you hold are absolutely abhorrent.

Even 4 years later, I am sometimes still surprised that people listening to and even producing such tender and emotional music can be so full of hate.