Trance artists who support russian war crimes in Ukraine

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Yeah but does it mean a Russian producer shouldnt make music anymore? Why do they HAVE to speak out and take a stance? Cant they just be quiet and make music instead? People are saying DJ's shouldnt be playing Russian produced music...
Do they have to speak out and take a stance? No, but if you don't you are indirectly supporting the war in my opinion.
 
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Guys, we alp suffer from that madness, let's not make it any worse pls? We are so tired from that trash going on rn. Let's respect and support each other in such tough times!
 
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All this keeps posing the question to me - if one of your favourite ever solo singer/producers was ousted as a peado or raped someone - would you stop listening to their music forever??

I'd definitely stop choosing these tracks into my playlist.

I have a few russian-made tracks in my top favourites list, but I'm not intentionally listening to them anymore.

If I heard it somewhere randomly live I'd have a mixed feeling of "oh, love this track" and "meh, this guy's paying taxes which go into killing ukrainians". So it's a question which is hard to answer.
 

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Yeah let's please refrain from using insulting language directed towards others, and just agree on the fact that nobody (besides the powerful, the ones who profit and the general psychopathic, bad and severely indoctrinated people) wants war and tragedy inflicted towards other people. The vast majority of us hope this ends as soon as possible, whether we say it out loud or not.

I would personally guide myself by the "innocent until proven guilty" saying and trust that most (Russians especially, and others) also want the war to end, however I am not in your position (when I kind of was, I was 4 years old at the time so I had a pretty limited perspective, if any).
 
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If i was Russian,i would take a stance and create a post or something about it. But i dont think you should be judged if you stay quiet either.
Absolutely not, it's very easy to judge Russian artists for not taking a stance, but taking a stance there means getting directly the 'GO TO JAIL' card.
 

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Don’t think it is fair to say any Russian not speaking out against is ‘for’ the invasion.

As much as I dislike the government here in the UK, I know that any criticisms I aim at them in public is not going to land me in any serious trouble.

It’s easy from afar to demand people stand up, but if the potential consequences for doing so are at best being arrested or having your career finished & at worst being forcibly shipped off to a Wagner Group unit on the front, it’s understandable why some choose to stay silent.

That doesn’t excuse non-Russians travelling over there for gigs though imo.
 

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Absolutely not, it's very easy to judge Russian artists for not taking a stance, but taking a stance there means getting directly the 'GO TO JAIL' card.
Or worse, in case of Pavel Antov, Ravil Maganov, Alexander Subbotin and their direct relatives/ families
 
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When a respected professor finishes his lecture about quantum physics in the large auditory of 300 people, he would ask them: «Do you have any questions lads?»
He would hear silence for 5-10 seconds and thank everybody for listening, say goodbye.

That would never mean everybody got all the key moments of the lecture, that would mean people are stunned and they can't even formulate their questions. They haven't told him YES or NO.

Same applies here. Calling people who haven't made «a simple social media post» as supporters of this mayhem is the worst ludicrous example of certified bullshit.
 
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When a respected professor finishes his lecture about quantum physics in the large auditory of 300 people, he would ask them: «Do you have any questions lads?»
He would hear silence for 5-10 seconds and thank everybody for listening, say goodbye.

That would never mean everybody got all the key moments of the lecture, that would mean people are stunned and they can't even formulate their questions. They haven't told him YES or NO.

Same applies here. Calling people who haven't made «a simple social media post» as supporters of this mayhem is the worst ludicrous example of certified bullshit.

I agree...what are you going to do...trawl through someones social media to find a post condeming the war - THEN you can listen to their music! Ridiculous.
 

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Was Ahmed Helmy also super honored to play 2 sets in Russia in September and October 2022? 🤔


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Of course he banned me on his private page and the artist one, as noone needs to see the truth xD