Trance Producers who made all their tracks on their own...

Julian Del Agranda

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Wait what? It has been pretty much always known that Tiesto had ghost producers. I don't see what's new here. He even thanked his producers on national tv when he won a TMF-award (the Dutch MTV sort of). He worked with Dennis Waakop Reijers. And with Hans Willem Mallon. But I think Hans stepped out of it earlier than 2007. Geert Huinink has been known for the classical parts in several Tiesto songs, like Forever Today.

That's not new information... on trance.nu that was also talked about, which is like 15 years ago at least.

From 2008 on, he moved to the USA, and he's been saying in interviews back then, that he started working with 7 different producers.
 

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Benno got involved in 2008, not before, as far as I know.
Yeah id like to think Armin made all his early stuff on his own - there is definatly videos of him working on DAWs in the studio,so he knows what hes doing

I have Armin's Electronic Music Production Masterclass and funnily enough, he does bring in Benno during the studio session. But I mean........it's BENNO!!

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Lol, he looks lost at that pic.

Still, he probably compartmentalized some information he no longer deems necessary. The production values and standards changed quite heavily since 2008 as well, so Benno probably handles all of that now, whereas they are neck-to-neck in the creation process. Just my estimation.
 
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Wait what? It has been pretty much always known that Tiesto had ghost producers. I don't see what's new here. He even thanked his producers on national tv when he won a TMF-award (the Dutch MTV sort of). He worked with Dennis Waakop Reijers. And with Hans Willem Mallon. But I think Hans stepped out of it earlier than 2007. Geert Huinink has been known for the classical parts in several Tiesto songs, like Forever Today.

That's not new information... on trance.nu that was also talked about, which is like 15 years ago at least.

From 2008 on, he moved to the USA, and he's been saying in interviews back then, that he started working with 7 different producers.

Dont let Tiesto sidetrack the topic lol - i knew that would happen - im asking about producers who do everything themselves.
 

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Lol, he looks lost at that pic.

Still, he probably compartmentalized some information he no longer deems necessary. The production values and standards changed quite heavily since 2008 as well, so Benno probably handles all of that now, whereas they are neck-to-neck in the creation process. Just my estimation.
Yeah, that picture can totally be turned into a meme, lol.

Benno's like,

"Dude, why is "Shivers" number #1?"
 
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I wonder how much PVD actually contributed with say Seven Ways and OTAB. Does anyone of you guys have any inside info on this
? Because obviously we have Johnny Klimek written as "co-producer" on many tracks. Is pvd another tiesto or was he a little more prolific?
 

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I wonder how much PVD actually contributed with say Seven Ways and OTAB. Does anyone of you guys have any inside info on this
? Because obviously we have Johnny Klimek written as "co-producer" on many tracks. Is pvd another tiesto or was he a little more prolific?

There was a statement by 'Cosmic Baby' on his old website, that Paul was not really musically involved in their 'Vision Of Shiva' project. who knows..

EDIT: ok, here it is:
It is not easy to speak of "Visions of Shiva" without touching a few nerves. "How much can you take" was written during the same (one-week) recording session as "Cafe del Mar" with Jens. Let me just say this: it would be great if Paul van Dyk, now with the distance of time between us and the fact that he himself is a recognized international superstar, had the honesty and strength of character to explain once and for all what he contributed to the content of this piece (apart from being present at the Mix of the "physical" version)."
 
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Julian Del Agranda

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Dont let Tiesto sidetrack the topic lol - i knew that would happen - im asking about producers who do everything themselves.

what? You start this topic talking about Tiesto, saying incorrect things. And then I reply correcting your statement.

Then you say: don’t talk about tiesto.

I see.

LOL.
 

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what? You start this topic talking about Tiesto, saying incorrect things. And then I reply correcting your statement.

Then you say: don’t talk about tiesto.

I see.

LOL.

Tiesto has nothing to do with the question i asked...so why bring him up again...my first post was giving examples of producers who did the opposite of what im talking about.
 

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Sad to see if pvd is also as much of a product that tiesto was...

Ohh.. no drama pls

Some guys are studio freaks, like Oliver Lieb, they love to be in their studio's for more than 6 hours every day

....some guys like Carl Cox are skilled djs, they love to spin records for huge crowds

....some guys are great in business, like maybe lets say Talla or Armin, yeah somebody needs to deal with all those non artistical, but important things around music..

If you are a combination of the 3 then you are lucky enough, but mostly its not so.. the money is still (and always was) in the hands of djs (thats the only reason why so many producers and label owners started to dj). BUT even in 90's, if you were a excellent dj, you needed some tunes to be popular.. the most celebrated djs of the 90's had contracts with major labels like Sony or Universal. Maybe just Paul don't wanted to be only a resident dj of some club in Berlin, or he don't wanted to play gigs only in Germany. So production was needed.. and then maybe he was in the right time on the right place..
 

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I always thought PvD made his own stuff, especially since he was using the same kick/hat/clap combo for about 20 years 😄

In all seriousness, I suppose it depends on what you class as a ghost producer? Are we talking someone making the track from start to finish in it's entirety for another artist? Maybe just writing the melody/chords/lyrics?

If it's the latter, I suspect a lot of big producers have gone down this route to an extent, especially when trying to put an album together and needing that big pop hit to boost sales.

As for Tiesto, his trance era stuff was all Dennis Waakop I think - at least his website suggests as much:


Not forgetting, that Ferry said in this interview that Tijs was just a DJ and didn't produce any of the track in regards to the original Gouryella.
Hard to believe he'd be already be at the standard to produce that Delerium - Silence remix like a year later...

 
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