A & Z - Noir [FSOE]

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07-30-2016, 15:42 PM
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A & Z - Noir [FSOE]

Release Date: TBA

http://www.trancefix.nl/attachment.p...id=15984&stc=1

Start at 15:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFQ0N944HWo

Start at 15:32
07-30-2016, 18:40 PM
Magdelayna

Another very good tracks from my proteges.....sounds similar to 'Scota',but thats no bad thing.
07-30-2016, 23:47 PM
Klaas

Nice uplifting tune by A&Z!
08-15-2016, 22:26 PM
Z Dobrej Woli

22nd August
08-22-2016, 14:30 PM
Z Dobrej Woli

OUT: http://classic.beatport.com/track/no...ed-mix/8227295
08-22-2016, 15:24 PM
Addict-In-Trance

4:01 and call it an extended mix :protest:
08-22-2016, 17:40 PM
Sleepy Robot

And still ask the full exclusive price, which i think is already too expensive here...
08-22-2016, 18:27 PM
Mistocaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addict-In-Trance

4:01 and call it an extended mix :protest:

Then radio edit 01:50? :^^
08-22-2016, 18:52 PM
WialnS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oztsta1sEuI
08-22-2016, 19:32 PM
A&Z

Hey guys,

there was a mistake & the radio edit was released as the extended mix ! it will be fixed asap :)

thanks for the feedback!
08-22-2016, 20:47 PM
Addict-In-Trance

Quote:

Originally Posted by A&Z

Hey guys,

there was a mistake & the radio edit was released as the extended mix ! it will be fixed asap :)

thanks for the feedback!

Ok! :)
No hard feelings ofcourse ;)
But I see a trend nowadays with many producers that they release new tracks as extended mixes while they are just 4-5 minutes in length
08-22-2016, 21:24 PM
Hensmon

I feel like in the last 8 years we have had 1000's of tracks released in this manner, build, structure, melodic approach. It really is boring for me now, sorry.
08-23-2016, 00:53 AM
Chaim Mankoff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hensmon

I feel like in the last 8 years we have had 1000's of tracks released in this manner, build, structure, melodic approach. It really is boring for me now, sorry.

What sort of builds / structures would you like to hear in an uplifting track?
08-23-2016, 01:55 AM
Aoi

The melody it is really nice and i like it !!!
but i agree a little bit with @Hensmon all the other parts of this tune have nothing special and as result this tune it is very similar
with many other releases in the last few years...
08-24-2016, 09:34 AM
Hensmon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaim Mankoff

What sort of builds / structures would you like to hear in an uplifting track?

It's the stuff that begins at 3:44 that I think is the really the pinnacle of genericism in todays Uplfiting. We used to see breakbeats, 2 or maybe 3 different melodies appearing in various places in the tracks - some starting as intro ones and developing, some ending the tune. How about subtle and atmospheric vocals instead of the cheesey pop songs we get constantly, which subsequently also follows the same verse - bridge - chorus - verse formula for years now. Now it's intro, build melody, drop melody, outro... - all laid on top of a kick/baseline combo that again has been done to death - no groove to it or personality. I would also say subtitles suffer from this sledgehammer approach and are so void from uplifting today it's crazy, and I would like to see more of this.

It feels like uplifting producers go through the motions of replicating a template, but an Uplifting feeling can be achieved in so many ways, we just never see it tried. I think FSOE is the biggest culprit of when it comes to peddling template Uplifting (very surprised to see Amber on here). Btw I don't hate the track completely, just have strong desire for something more in a scene I think became stagnant.
08-24-2016, 10:28 AM
Daysleeper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hensmon

It's the stuff that begins at 3:44 that I think is the really the pinnacle of genericism in todays Uplfiting. We used to see breakbeats, 2 or maybe 3 different melodies appearing in various places in the tracks - some starting as intro ones and developing, some ending the tune. How about subtle and atmospheric vocals instead of the cheesey pop songs we get constantly, which subsequently also follows the same verse - bridge - chorus - verse formula for years now. Now it's intro, build melody, drop melody, outro... - all laid on top of a kick/baseline combo that again has been done to death - no groove to it or personality. I would also say subtitles suffer from this sledgehammer approach and are so void from uplifting today it's crazy, and I would like to see more of this.

It feels like uplifting producers go through the motions of replicating a template, but an Uplifting feeling can be achieved in so many ways, we just never see it tried. I think FSOE is the biggest culprit of when it comes to peddling template Uplifting (very surprised to see Amber on here). Btw I don't hate the track completely, just have strong desire for something more in a scene I think became stagnant.

I remember clearly how someone stated that variations/changes in a track doesnt datermine how good it is. You just contradicted yourself. I dont come and say ive stated that it is the only factor that matter because it isnt but its one of the major ones.
08-24-2016, 10:32 AM
Chaim Mankoff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hensmon

It's the stuff that begins at 3:44 that I think is the really the pinnacle of genericism in todays Uplfiting. We used to see breakbeats, 2 or maybe 3 different melodies appearing in various places in the tracks - some starting as intro ones and developing, some ending the tune. How about subtle and atmospheric vocals instead of the cheesey pop songs we get constantly, which subsequently also follows the same verse - bridge - chorus - verse formula for years now. Now it's intro, build melody, drop melody, outro... - all laid on top of a kick/baseline combo that again has been done to death - no groove to it or personality. I would also say subtitles suffer from this sledgehammer approach and are so void from uplifting today it's crazy, and I would like to see more of this.

It feels like uplifting producers go through the motions of replicating a template, but an Uplifting feeling can be achieved in so many ways, we just never see it tried. I think FSOE is the biggest culprit of when it comes to peddling template Uplifting (very surprised to see Amber on here). Btw I don't hate the track completely, just have strong desire for something more in a scene I think became stagnant.

You certainly make some valid points. But it's so much easier said than done. As a producer (who is not very 'established' or experienced yet), I always try to be original and innovative, but I fail in that regard most of the time. Maybe very few people have the ability and skills to be innovative all the time. Maybe many producers don't try hard enough to be creative or fresh.

Another thing to keep in mind is that most producers want to get support from the biggest DJs. I might differ from others in this sense, but if you told me that not a single person will hear my music, I'd probably lose motivation to finish tracks. I want as many people as possible to hear and enjoy my music, which is why I hope to get some support. With that in mind, it's always going to be at the back of a producer's mind, to create music that will appeal to DJs and to dancefloors. That's not to say that I want to put out generic or recycled material, but it's important to have DJs and music fans in mind when making music. If I was planning on releasing an album, I'd no doubt think much less about that sort of thing and allow myself more freedom in terms of structures / builds etc.
08-24-2016, 11:38 AM
biot

Any update regarding the real extended version in Beatport ?
08-24-2016, 15:23 PM
Mistocaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by biot

Any update regarding the real extended version in Beatport ?

Yeah the problem is fixed now we have on beatport the 8:31 minutes version