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    Quote Originally Posted by FJV View Post
    Only gud thing of Mexico football, teams are so mediocre that one season they win and the next they are last place so it gives a lot of "competition" and you cant never tell wich team is gona win.

    For example the last 2 years one champion was a team that 1 year before was in the 2nd division, lel.
    That sounds like erratic, inconsistent, short term investment & instability, not a competitive league
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    That sounds like erratic, inconsistent, short term investment & instability, not a competitive league
    Pretty much what i said. U didnt see the "" around competition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJV View Post
    Pretty much what i said. U didnt see the "" around competition?
    My meter is broken
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    I follow occasionally Real Madrid and BVVA Liga use to follow Serie A around till around 2004 a lot. The quality of football especially Italian teams of Serie A has fallen so much they are garbage. Remember Juventus and Milan use to be a have a team back. Milan had all the best players back shevchenko and the rest now has a bunch garbage.
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    MASSIVE win for Chelsea, w000000t!

    Edit: Lloris says Spurs will end in top 4, what do you think, @Darren?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katadunkass View Post
    MASSIVE win for Chelsea, w000000t!

    Edit: Lloris says Spurs will end in top 4, what do you think, @Darren?
    Where did he say that?

    To answer your question, no I don't think we will be. I think some of the deals in the summer were ridiculous too, we're most likely facing an costly exodus this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Where did he say that?

    To answer your question, no I don't think we will be. I think some of the deals in the summer were ridiculous too, we're most likely facing an costly exodus this summer.
    It was just a quote popping up during last evenings match, so not sure.

    Spurs is definitely having a hard time at the moment. That 5-1 defeat at home was not what I expected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBankkid View Post
    I follow occasionally Real Madrid and BVVA Liga use to follow Serie A around till around 2004 a lot. The quality of football especially Italian teams of Serie A has fallen so much they are garbage. Remember Juventus and Milan use to be a have a team back. Milan had all the best players back shevchenko and the rest now has a bunch garbage.
    A big big fan of Real here and of course Liga BBVA. Tomorrow half-finals of Spanish Cup against Atletico (they are leading la Liga).
    The situation of Internazionale is even worse than Milan. I follow Juventus but my interesting in Calcio is decreasing because of the lack of rivals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katadunkass View Post
    It was just a quote popping up during last evenings match, so not sure.

    Spurs is definitely having a hard time at the moment. That 5-1 defeat at home was not what I expected!
    Heavy defeats aren't unexpected:

    - We've a few quality players but hardly anybody in our first 11 is settled or high on confidence.
    - Sherwood doesn't know how to handle the big games managerially in terms of tactics nor experience.
    - We're badly missing some strength in key positions, left back, defensive midfield in particular.
    - Our wingers are just not performing.
    - We're not using our investment in players to their full potential. Our record signing for instance has had hardly any game time.

    In terms of investment we only made two sound choices this summer and that was Eriksen & Chiriches. The rest were overpriced or luxuy purchases where I wish we'd kept the money back for when a target did become available. E.g. I don't doubt Lamela can be a good player but I think he'll struggle to adapt and have problems fulfilling his potential in England. We're in desperate need of a left back and I wished the money had been spent there. Townsend and Lennon could suffice on right wing.

    I think Vertonghen, Eriksen & perhaps Lloris will be our next big sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Txebe View Post
    A big big fan of Real here and of course Liga BBVA. Tomorrow half-finals of Spanish Cup against Atletico (they are leading la Liga).
    The situation of Internazionale is even worse than Milan. I follow Juventus but my interesting in Calcio is decreasing because of the lack of rivals
    I think has few years that Serie A has died. At national team level also is garbage has years that has not produced any meaningful talent. Delpiero and Pirlo, Buffon and Totti and Nesta and at certain level Vieri that use to be talents now they are all old.
    Chiellini is the only player ta juve from the "new" talents that has a bit of perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBankkid View Post
    I think has few years that Serie A has died. At national team level also is garbage has years that has not produced any meaningful talent. Delpiero and Pirlo, Buffon and Totti and Nesta and at certain level Vieri that use to be talents now they are all old.
    Chiellini is the only player ta juve from the "new" talents that has a bit of perspective.
    Early 2000 Calcio were the football reference and their teams were highly respected but now the level is very very low. I put my hope in Napoles and Fiorentina but they are far from Juve.
    Italy has some promising players like Lorenzo Insigne (Napoles), Verratti (PSG), De Sciglio and El Shaarawy (Milan), Berardi (Juve on loan Sassuolo) or Destro (Roma).

    Spain has the same problem than Italy but we bet on young players and care them. Spending less money and betting on young talent.
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    Yeah around 2000 till 04 serie A was still significant.Spain did a drastic investing in youth sector in home grown players. Basically what Italy use to do before than the teams went full commercial caring only of transfers and of the club. There are some talents agree, Insigne, Verratti, De Sciglio are silent workhouses .El Shaarawy he has much to much fluff in game and will let fame go over his head.Mattia is good forward with Genoa before he did wonders as well with roma.Domenico also has room for growth. Spain though is not in same level you guys have much more domestic grown players Italy has to import a lot. They screwed it with transfers and investment in young players academies and now they are way behind the rest.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-football.html
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    I was also a massive Milan and Shevchenko fan like you @IBankkid. I wont lie though, Italian football was up there with the worse football in the world to watch now i look back on it. It was far too defensive. How i manage to watch Milan religiously week in week out is beyond me.
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    I have to disagree. Sheva use to give a show but was a good thing he gave in the most defensive ligue, at same time he was organizing the whole team.. The Italian football was always defensive and is still. Most of talents "died" in Italy, Ronaldo among many others who tried to go solo. Italian Serie A had talents in all fields which is why you saw little action. Ronaldino from others side with all the hype did nothing once he transferred in Italy. They would break the feet that's is a good thing because you not playing basketball. Surpassing all defense and doing tricks that's not football IMO. Is whole team behind. You need a balanced game and if is not competitive at all sectors basically what game are you looking at. And even in Spanish liga that many teams plays very open game with short fast passes they also play very good defensive game also and have come long from what use to be. Strategy is big part of the game and thats why I like Spanish liga is more complete than the rest and definitely they have fixed the defensive problems they had before and attracted some of the best managers. I think the problem now as Txebe mentioned with Italian serie A is they lack the young talents more than football evolved. For same reason I don't watch Barclays Premier League is to boring despite all the fame it has mainly selling the rights to English speaking countries, the long passes/cross it just kills you, no offense to any Barclays Premier League fans..
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBankkid View Post
    I have to disagree. Sheva use to give a show but was a good thing he gave in the most defensive ligue, at same time he was organizing the whole team.. The Italian football was always defensive and is still. Most of talents "died" in Italy, Ronaldo among many others who tried to go solo. Italian Serie A had talents in all fields which is why you saw little action. Ronaldino from others side with all the hype did nothing once he transferred in Italy. They would break the feet that's is a good thing because you not playing basketball. Surpassing all defense and doing tricks that's not football IMO. Is whole team behind. You need a balanced game and if is not competitive at all sectors basically what game are you looking at. And even in Spanish liga that many teams plays very open game with short fast passes they also play very good defensive game also and have come long from what use to be. Strategy is big part of the game and thats why I like Spanish liga is more complete than the rest and definitely they have fixed the defensive problems they had before and attracted some of the best managers. I think the problem now as Txebe mentioned with Italian serie A is they lack the young talents more than football evolved. For same reason I don't watch Barclays Premier League is to boring despite all the fame it has mainly selling the rights to English speaking countries, the long passes/cross it just kills you, no offense to any Barclays Premier League fans..
    Im not saying defensive football is bad thing, its just not very pleasing on the eye and most would agree. Its renowned the world over for being boring - its not for the football purest, so to speak. Which as a Celtic fan, I'm far from.

    Milan were great back them because they had a TEAM full of leaders, not just Shevchenko, Maldini, Nesta, Cafu, Rivaldo, Seedorf could all have walked into the worlds top teams and became captains.
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