Classics sub section

[Voci]

I think it doesn't work and it should stay 1 thing.

The amount of classic-discussions will never be as high as "normal" discussions. Dividing this seems strange, as in the 'tracks'-section you can only post tracks with release-date etc.

While the informal "hey guys you remember this guy? he made this and that.. " is way more pleasant.

Pretty big no for me.

[Darren]

I think it doesn't work and it should stay 1 thing.

The amount of classic-discussions will never be as high as "normal" discussions. Dividing this seems strange, as in the 'tracks'-section you can only post tracks with release-date etc.

While the informal "hey guys you remember this guy? he made this and that.. " is way more pleasant.

Pretty big no for me.

It's just this:

Classic Releases = Upcoming releases (A structured place with rules for postings, look at tracks on a case by case basis)

Classic Discussion = Music Discussion (A place where discussion over classics, styles or changes in past etc can be made)

Right now you have crossover because the section has been growing, that's normal. Let sleeping dogs lie and just move on with structure changes which are sensible. For me Hensmons plan fits the bill.

[Sunshine]

I've been following this topic, and I'm unsure. I see pros and cons to both solutions. @Voci has some valid points imo. I'd like to discuss this with the other mods as well @chreddy @Katadunkass @PegaSus @cheer_up @missmimi @Nemezijus @NomadZXZ feel free to chip in

[NomadZXZ]

At this point in time I think it should remain 1 section unless it becomes overwhelmingly active. In the Classics Discussion section we will still be tempted to post classic tracks and compare them with others which will bypass the Classics Releases section. The same is true of the CR section...people will be tempted to discuss the classics and older styles there. Ultimately there will be 2 very similar sections and more difficult to sort through. Just my humble opinion

edit: on the idea of people posting a track on a certain day, perhaps it would help to "expand the pool" and double/triple up on each day ie. NomadZXZ, @Phael @Thijs on Wed and Thurs @J4mie @Nangle @Sunshine for example (if we have enough people who are interested). That will prevent days where nothing is posted because I'll admit its easy to forget or get caught up with other things.

[Puppetmaster]

I feel the discussion threads dont get attention as they are hidden on page x cause of the classics tracks threads. Seperating those two makes sense, as the same is done with the upcoming releases section and music discussions sections. Imagine if that would be one section, then most music disussion threads would be hidden on page 716 cause of all the upcoming releases threads.

[Addict-In-Trance]

I think splitting them up could work yes
Because as others already pointed out.
Now we have a couple of classic tracks and discussions mixed.
Sometimes I reply on a thread and when I check back that discussion moved down already

[Sunshine]

I feel the discussion threads dont get attention as they are hidden on page x cause of the classics tracks threads. Seperating those two makes sense, as the same is done with the upcoming releases section and music discussions sections. Imagine if that would be one section, then most music disussion threads would be hidden on page 716 cause of all the upcoming releases threads.

Imo it's not a fair comparison. In the classics we currently have 4 pages, in the UR we have 402. While I do agree that splitting the classic would make sense I don't think the argument for it is a comparison with the UR section as these two don't have completely similar agendas and purposes.

[Darren]

Imo it's not a fair comparison. In the classics we currently have 4 pages, in the UR we have 402. While I do agree that splitting the classic would make sense I don't think the argument for it is a comparison with the UR section as these two don't have completely similar agendas and purposes.

Why does size of the section matter? Sure the section is small but the move makes sense whether it's 4 pages or 400.

Delaying allows a mess to build, like Bo says threads will be lost in the mix as it grows. It's not a grave problem but could you imagine if you mixed music discussion and upcoming releases together at the start just because it was a small section?

You can delay and allow a mess to build or make a decision to organise it a little by putting it in two broad subsections that might later on be refined like everything else on the site. I guess I don't understand the reluctance.

[Darren]

Threads u mentioned should belong to Music Discussion sub-forum.

Seems sensible, the problem for me is simply having them all bundled up together where they are.

[asteski]

Seems sensible, the problem for me is simply having them all bundled up together where they are.

Damn ur fast. I thought this through and it could be actually a good idea. As now it's kinda messy. Classics Discussion could be just sub-forum in either Music Discussion or Trance Classics.

[Sunshine]

Why does size of the section matter? Sure the section is small but the move makes sense whether it's 4 pages or 400.

Because the argument was that the discussions threads don't get attention because they're hidden on page x. In the UR section you have +10 new threads every day, therefore the discussions topics will get 'hidden' if they were placed within the UR section, hence the division. In the classics section there's 2-3 new threads on a daily basis, and there's 4 pages which isn't much if you want to browse the section for discussions topics.

[Darren]

Because the argument was that the discussions threads don't get attention because they're hidden on page x. In the UR section you have +10 new threads every day, therefore the discussions topics will get 'hidden' if they were placed within the UR section, hence the division. In the classics section there's 2-3 new threads on a daily basis, and there's 4 pages which isn't much if you want to browse the section for discussions topics.

The core question, does a restructure. I.e. Making a distinction between releases and discussions for new posts make logical sense?

I don't see an argument against doing this bar "It's not big yet so why do it?". There is a sensible suggestion and a simple solution. Do you move / restructure 10 threads now or have this request a year down the line and have to do many more? From what I can see the bigger the section becomes the bigger the cleanup becomes. If something makes sense and can be applied / implemented with reasonable effort taken, then it should be done no?

To my mind you can make a really nice section out of Classics and have something that'll pull people here, with little work required.

[Katadunkass]

I can't really say anything new, but I agree with Hensmon's idea and Darrens arguments.

[Darren]

Damn ur fast. I thought this through and it could be actually a good idea. As now it's kinda messy. Classics Discussion could be just sub-forum in either Music Discussion or Trance Classics.

Your input has made me reconsider some things though. I do believe discussion can be catered for by 'The Music Discussion' forum. Individual track comments and remarks should take place within their respective threads. So move 'Classic Discussion' threads to MD. Then having 'Classic Track' threads (specific tracks) kept in Classics, just neatened up with some basic rules like in UR just to bring in some consistency and quality. Then you have no duplicates and a clean place for members to check out Classics at their leisure.

[Sunshine]

But we already moved the classics discussions thread from MD to classics, so why move them back? I'm confused lol