Quote Originally Posted by Alex E View Post
I don't want to depend on anything for my proper functioning, certainly not something that I take to function on a normal level. I never knew the supplement contained caffeine until a few days after running out and getting headaches. I can't really mentally get addicted to substances (I think I can sometimes get addicted to other stuff though).

(About the energy high of caffeine: I like relying on my body's natural drugs and increase their usefulness and effectiveness by thought processes and such training. For example, I am training myself to be just as talkative and expressive without alcohol as I am with alcohol.)
i totally understand your stance, and it's a very good one to have

i too try to avoid it as much as i can and try to get by with my own body's natural chemicals but it gets me every morning...have to work up the courage again to quit it for good this time!