(Bad) trends in trance and what direction would you like trance to go in the future?

[Nangle]

Don't make it a flame war or give other users a reason to begin one though.

I make my own rules.

[UnWorldly]

I guess the one that irritates me the most is when a pretty song builds up and you are expecting a sweet euphoric crescendo, but instead it cuts to that harsh egdy "epic mashleg" sound. DJ's seem to enjoy butchering the classic songs that way; everyone will recognize a tune and the floor will get excited then we cut to the mashleg. The crowd seems to be really into the technique but I'm not; I feel like they cut out the best climactic part of a beautiful song and replace it with this nastiness.

Sometimes that aggresive quality mixes well with the trance sound that makes it more "hype" and less "candy shop." 2013 had some awesome sounds, protoculture, angry man, oakey and others. I think things are taking an interesting direction and the parties have been pretty sweet (at least in the small venues). American superclubs have many frustrating features, as a man I am generally treated like cattle and often find myself thinking back to the days of respect and hugs being the default greeting. Everybody out there these days is acting like the characters in "saturday night fever" and it is hard to feel welcome, there is a lot less fun for your dollar. I have to confess, I prefer going to hiphop clubs where I may be the only white person, but people are polite, drinks are cheap and folks dont have that nasty "get the fuck out of here" frown on their face that the vegas people get.

For an american, if you want to see the big internationals you have to attend one of these shitty superclubs. As a result, I find myself going to smaller parties where different styles of music are featured. I wish the big trancers would recognize what a nightmare the bottle service, velvet rope, huge line, "dress the room", hyper-judgemental superlcub scene has become into and put some stuff in their riders to limit the asshattery. It isn't entirely unprecedented for them to put their feet down, like the way PvD did in the mid 2000's here in DC, saying he wouldnt return to the club until their horrible line policies were fixed.

[tep]

I found out that there isn't anything to discuss really, and that most people on here don't want me to be here and post these things so its better to lock threads like this. The answer is always: Well, times changes, genres has to evolve.

The mainintention was just to see what type of trends people like and dislike and how they want trance to sound in the future. Not to whine about why I think trance is not as good as in the old days.

I am pretty sure, you can quite confused here, noone wants you off the forum. What kind of nonsense talk is that. What majority of people are saying is that if you start a controversial thread, be sure to accept other opinions rather on your own.

Also there are quite a few responses which agree with you or bring more things into this discussion, so i really do not see how anyone wants you off?

[point]

Trends are fine as long as you combine some of your own artistic touch into them, but the moment you start copying popular tracks 1:1 (which is what has been happening for many years) it goes wrong.

What I dislike the most atm:
1. High pitchbend leads and sounds (you know that afrojack kind of)
2. Dubstep influences and really rough sharp digital sounds. Kinda fading away though, but I like my trance a bit more softer and like that even the distorted sounds have some smoothness in them.
3. Happy melodies. I'm a sucker for melancholic and dark riffs, major chords are fine but pair them up with minor chords. This new anjuna 2.0 trance sound that's only major(7) chords sometimes makes me wanna puke.
4. Unnecessary vocals. Vocals can be great and bring the track to a whole new level, if the singer is really good and the vocal melody and lyrics are great. However 90% of the time the vocals sound like they're there just because, and actually do more harm than good.

What I would love to have more:
1. Melancholic, sad, depressing and dark melodies, with a little bit of hope in them.
2. Mysterious elements, more mysterious sounds and atmospheres and riffs.
3. More layers and detail. Most trance tracks these days are pretty detailed, but I just love when there's a lot of stuff going on (not at the same time) and lots of attention for detail. Plenty of pads and atmospheric elements, little fx sounds sweeps and whatnot here and there. Something where you don't catch everything on the first or even the second listen.
4. More hypnotism and techno influences. The hypnotic groove that trance and dance music used to have has pretty much disappeared with the new subgenres. The basslines aren't groovy, moving and hypnotic anymore.
5. More acid! 303, tb, the silver box, or whatever other sound with high resonance and low cutoff. I want acid basslines, I want distorted acid riffs, almost pad like acid arp layers with huge delays, I want acid in all forms and I want it now. It was a huge part of the genre during the 90s and disappeared because the new kids didn't get it.

[Epsilonphase]

hat I would love to have more:
1. Melancholic, sad, depressing and dark melodies, with a little bit of hope in them.
2. Mysterious elements, more mysterious sounds and atmospheres and riffs.
3. More layers and detail. Most trance tracks these days are pretty detailed, but I just love when there's a lot of stuff going on (not at the same time) and lots of attention for detail. Plenty of pads and atmospheric elements, little fx sounds sweeps and whatnot here and there. Something where you don't catch everything on the first or even the second listen.
4. More hypnotism and techno influences. The hypnotic groove that trance and dance music used to have has pretty much disappeared with the new subgenres. The basslines aren't groovy, moving and hypnotic anymore.
5. More acid! 303, tb, the silver box, or whatever other sound with high resonance and low cutoff. I want acid basslines, I want distorted acid riffs, almost pad like acid arp layers with huge delays, I want acid in all forms and I want it now. It was a huge part of the genre during the 90s and disappeared because the new kids didn't get it.

What he is saying, plain and simple, is that he wants tunes today to sound more like this (funny, this track has everything that you just mentioned):

[Payo]

Agree with Point up there, Dubstep inluences just sound awful in Trance

[FJV]

TL'DR.

Yeah im lazy, im a Mexican remember.

Still this is like the 100 thread from someone saying dont like new trance, we all know it......NEW TRANCE IS SHIT!!

[Epsilonphase]

Still this is like the 100 thread from someone saying dont like new trance, we all know it......NEW TRANCE IS SHIT!!

Thanks for contributing to the thread with what trends you like/dislike and how you want trance to sound in the future. Btw, I havn't seen any threads about that new trance sucks, not literally. I don't think new modern trance sucks all completely.

Edit: It does sucks pretty bad though and they need to do something about it.

[FJV]

Thanks for contributing to the thread with what trends you like/dislike and how you want trance to sound in the future. Btw, I havn't seen any threads about that new trance sucks, not literally. I don't think new modern trance sucks all completely.

Ya welcome!

[Fredjan]

What he is saying, plain and simple, is that he wants tunes today to sound more like this (funny, this track has everything that you just mentioned):

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[NanoMusikTV]

This is sounding like Marx: eventually things will get so bad a (musical) revolution is inevitable...

[leon92]

^ The capitalists (Armin van Buuren) are surpressing the workforce (new upcoming artists) to produce according to the capitalists standards, this means society (trance community) is in confict and the day will come that the workforce will overthrow the capitalists and break their bonds of slavery and start producing fresh, quality tracks which focus on "real" trance and not on one drop after another.

[Fredjan]

Rofl at the above post.
Also, am I crazy enough to want more stuff like this?

I find it to be more forward-looking than whatever Kearney, O'Callaghan, and Solarstone* produce today, and it's from freaking 2008. (I'm not saying the aforementioned producers are bad, by the way.)

[Epsilonphase]

Also, am I crazy enough to want more stuff like this?

Yep...

[DylanGuedes]

Rofl at the above post.
Also, am I crazy enough to want more stuff like this?
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I find it to be more forward-looking than whatever Kearney, O'Callaghan, and Solarstone* produce today, and it's from freaking 2008. (I'm not saying the aforementioned producers are bad, by the way.)

the buildup at 3:50 with the drop @4:20 is brutal. BRUTAL.