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Thread: Tillmann Uhrmacher Feat. Peter Ries - Bassfly (1999/2000)

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    Tillmann Uhrmacher Feat. Peter Ries - Bassfly (1999/2000)

    Outdated to some, or many. Either way, it has one of the most sentiemental and charming melodies i've heard in the history of trance. While the Moogwai remix is the most classy and my fav of the bunch I think the original is the most charming one. I would love some modern production including that basskick you find in the Michael Woods version.





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    I don't rate the original, it lacks character for me, and isn't very memorable at all. The Moogwai remix was a slight improvement and Michael Wood better again but neither really grasp me.
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    RIP what a legend, Martin Roth did some fantastic remixes of his stuff too

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    Just me who loves the melody in the moogwai remix so much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    Just me who loves the melody in the moogwai remix so much?
    I really like all three versions,one of those great delicate melodies,the style of trance which summed up that period. Moogwai do put some great atmosphere in their tracks,they had such a unique sound to their synths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    one of those great delicate melodies,the style of trance which summed up that period.
    Nicely put. Maybe post another one (new post) you'd describe simirlarly. One other is Rapid Eye - Never Going Back and Stan Francisco - Liquin (Time & Space Mix)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    Nicely put. Maybe post another one (new post) you'd describe simirlarly. One other is Rapid Eye - Never Going Back and Stan Francisco - Liquin (Time & Space Mix)
    I actually wouldnt class Never Going Back in that category hehe.

    This was a great CD for that kind of delicate sound :

    https://www.discogs.com/Jay-Burnett-...release/167513

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    I actually wouldnt class Never Going Back in that category hehe.

    This was a great CD for that kind of delicate sound :

    https://www.discogs.com/Jay-Burnett-...release/167513

    No? Not delicate? More eloborated melody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    No? Not delicate? More eloborated melody?
    It had quite a hard kick and was quite energetic imo - im meaning more tracks with softer kicks,bass etc when i describe 'delicate' hehe. The tracks labels wont sign in this day and age - cos theyre too chilled for clubs.

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    the original isn't memorable? whut?

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    Mogwai remix is...beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hensmon View Post
    Mogwai remix is...beautiful!
    Its something with how that main-synth cuts through the other elements. Its not louder but it has a really cool effect on it. You would never hear that today.

    Maybe @point @Gagi @Voci or @Magdelayna can get into the technical part of the synths/pads/effects used in this.

    Of the mogwai remix that is.
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    Well there's a phaser going on. That means a filter automatically comes and goes. Thats why it sort of sounds like "coming and going".

    As for it shining through like you said Daysleeper. I guess it's simply because there is not a lot going on in the track. There aren't multiple melodies and big loud synth lines layered ontop of each other. That gives these pads a lot of space in the mix to breathe and shine.

    Makes it calm and atmospheric. I actually never heard about this track. I like all three versions. They each have their own thing. I guess I pick the Michael Woods Remix, as I'm a sucker for these type of big synths of course

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    Yup, a simple phaser, Voci described it correctly so I won't repeat (think Xpander chords - that's where you can hear quite clearly what a phaser does because it's used quite aggressively there). But I agree, it works wonders here. Amazing arrangement. Not much going on, but the production itself is pretty clear (especially for that time) and you don't feel anything is lacking. Can't add, can't subtract. A sign of a good track.

    That whole sound is gonna be embraced in 3-4 years - it reminds me of early ASOT releases.

    The original sounds quite dated though. Michael Woods remix as well. Well, maybe in comparison to the Moogwai remix, which sounds ahead of its time. It's my favourite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    Its something with how that main-synth cuts through the other elements. Its not louder but it has a really cool effect on it. You would never hear that today.
    Maybe @point can get into the technical part of the synths/pads/effects used in this.
    Of the mogwai remix that is.
    The whole production is pretty standard VA-synth sound, there's no big fx chains on them, reverbs delays compression saturation like we hear these days. I think what makes it great is the minimal arrangement, there's plenty of room for each sound and it's sort of pleasantly chill to listen to.

    All those bright sounds seem to have a lot of filter resonance on them, the "lead" arpeggio that goes through the track is more or less just a basic sawtooth with no filter envelope but lots of resonance and cutoff automation. The filtering is very smooth so it could be a 2pole (-12db/oct) filter. The actual lead playing the lead melody sounds like a very middle detuned saw lead, perhaps only 2-4 voices unison, so not a JP8000 supersaw but something with less voices or ability to choose. Some resonance here too to make it pretty bright, this one has more reverb on it. The bass is also a regular sawtooth filtered with envelope to have that snappy sound, sounds very much like a Novation sound, so could be a Bass Station. Reminds me of the bass sound Above & Beyond used in early 2000s, don't know what kinda hardware they had back then. The pluck that can be best heard in 4:00 (but is in the background most of the time), could be the same sound but pitched octave higher and with delay.

    So I don't really hear anything specifically unique or difficult here, it's just that everything works so well together and the composition is pleasant.

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