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Astral Point (05-29-2016), Fredjan (05-29-2016)
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This is all about the available technology for DJs.
Remember back in the days, you had to get your tracks on vinyl, and usually fill them too (not sure about this). This meant long beat sections in order to fill out that vinyl. Also, there was no mixed in key, so the DJs relied on long beat sections in order to not have awful sounding transitions. Now, with CDJs, laptops and whatnot. More melodic content can be added to the first minute, and DJs don't need a lot of time to beatmatch. All of this again makes producers and artists more free to do as the please from a creative perspective. They don't have a format to fill, DJs usually have mixed in key, and the waveforms/rekordbox makes you able to plan rather than rely on the "2 minutes left of track" mark.
Why you must try to explain for idiots people bro ? You exactly like me 5-6 years ago, when I'm in 1-2 first years in Trance, at that time my country still rarely people understand what is Trance. My friends also dont know what is Trance, from my heart Im very want to share what i hear.Originally Posted by Astral Point
But, bro. After year to year, I realize in the life, dont share with anyone anything. Because only you understand yourself.
Astral Point (05-29-2016), Fredjan (05-29-2016)
That's right. Sometimes I listen to a track and I'm just like "Wow, this track is so amazing." and I feel like everyone feel the same way as I do, even if it isn't the case.
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That is why I said to you. Life is another thing, not always have people can understand what u feel, you only can found people like that at Trance music party. Anyway, go disscusion my new topic bro
Astral Point (05-29-2016)
You could say that about any genre of music. Depends what you love - dont make out that listening to Trance is an elitist thing.
I 'feel' Muse tracks,as i love that band aswell.
Agree that they should be a bit longer, from both listeners AND DJ's perspective. I don't DJ for anybody besides myself, but still, I like my transitions slower. I'm also a BIG fan of good intros in tracks. And yes it is about content, but I personally love longer ones. Quite possibly all my favourites are longer than 9 minutes. Arisen - 11:something, Ladyblue - 10, When Things Go Wrong (remix) - almost 10, and there's the exception of Tonight Is Forever (Martin Roth Edit) which is 8:18 if I'm not mistaken. And that one is a great example of fitting awesomeness in as little as 8 minutes. Short even works, though. Just listen to Ferry Corsten - Sweet Sorrow (The Thrillseekers Remix). LSG - Netherworld anyone? They are only 7 minutes (which is an OK length), but nothing short of greatness. Just proves it's all about the content.
Progressive tracks should be longer, but energetic uplifters like the remix I just mentioned, and tech-trance don't need 10 minutes to make their mark. You can't really generalize with that although I just did, not all tracks are the same.
If labels are demanding shorter tracks, especially the big ones so that Armin can fit 2335345357 tracks in 2 hours of ASOT, it's just the part of the bigger picture: Making business out of art. And the side-effect isn't just having shorter tracks.
The original Cafe Del Mar was actually 7:22 minutes long
There is the original netherworld which is a lil over 11 mins.
The thing is with longer tracks, it lets the listener and producer 'explore' more of the track. When you are listening to a track song, you are going through a journey, personally I'd take a long and beautiful journey over a short, yet beautiful one.
Doesn't it all depend? Why must it be a one-way-over-another-thing ?
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SupaNoodles (05-30-2016)
That's not what I tried to make out. It's just that I have the feeling that you can't really enjoy Trance by simply listening to it. You must understand it because Trance isn't cool, it's good.
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Well you know i dont mean that version dont you - the 3 'n One mix that made it a classic.
The three & one remix is too long imo. It couldve been 1.30-2 min shorter. Especially the middle part is aggravating with those laser alarm sound and 2 note chord.
Last edited by Daysleeper; 05-29-2016 at 18:24 PM.
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Fredjan (05-29-2016)
Cos you cant have a proper journey under 7 minutes - unless you want each element to come in every 10 seconds.
I think youre listening to the wrong version - dont remember any alarm in it.
Nope. Listen again.
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