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Thread: Can "uplifting" trance be reinvented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    Everyone's 'unique' is different,so a pointless thing to say - pretty much like this thread.
    I don't think so. It's true what he is saying. The feelings I get when listening through so many of the Uplifting releases today are that of tiresome and boredom. The structure/formula, the execution of sounds, the build...none of it has really changed for 15 years. The only noticeable change was production execution, which car crashed.

    It doesn't even have to be a bad critique, just an observation. There are Uplifting tracks I love from the modern era, despite them being formatted like every other Uplifting song I own. You can still note the stagnation of the ideas. Modern Anjunabeats attempted to re-do the vibes of uplifting in a new way you could say, but unfortunately it was in a gimmicky/commercial manner.

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    I concur, completely. But can uplifting trance even be unique? I mean, we all associate the words uplifting trance with the "formula". Doesn't that, in an of itself, make it completely unique-proof? What would make uplifting trance unique? Not trying to argue, just want to know.
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    Theres many forms of 'uplifting'....you could say the 1999 style was generic and followed a formula...but thats 'classic' period according to many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    Why isnt uplifting producers hungry for innovation or making something that just doesnt sounds basically as everyone else?
    I don't know why I never responded to this, but I would say that's because the only money in trance comes from this steroid style. That being said, if you want to chase money you're better off producing trap or reggaeton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredjan View Post
    I don't know why I never responded to this, but I would say that's because the only money in trance comes from this steroid style. That being said, if you want to chase money you're better off producing trap or reggaeton.
    You cant make any money from Trance unless you gig a lot. So producers making a generic style hoping to make loads of money are delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    Theres many forms of 'uplifting'....you could say the 1999 style was generic and followed a formula...but thats 'classic' period according to many
    You have it here. 1999 style was 1999 style until it changed into something like we had in 2003/2004, it was different. Then by 2008/2010 it had changed again...nothing has seemed to happen since this point apart from production getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hensmon View Post
    You have it here. 1999 style was 1999 style until it changed into something like we had in 2003/2004, it was different. Then by 2008/2010 it had changed again...nothing has seemed to happen since this point apart from production getting worse.
    I dont agree - since 2010, producers such as Solarstone,Stoneface & Terminal,Giuseppe,Will Atkinson etc have shown new styles of uplifting. And these productions have been technically better than what came before - bringing more power but staying away from the scurge of the sledgehammer style which blighted the last decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    I dont agree - since 2010, producers such as Solarstone,Stoneface & Terminal,Giuseppe,Will Atkinson etc have shown new styles of uplifting.
    Stoneface & Terminal yes have shown new styles, but I always considered it to be more in the Tech-Trance world than Uplifting i.e Berlin 99, Glimpse, Depox etc. Or just 'normal' trance like Airflow. Same Atkinson, who has the different feeling tracks but its always as some tech-trance monster or intense banger, structured and delivered like every other uplifting (apart from great production/melody). Numb the pain was fantastic, but it wasnt really a new kind of idea was it?

    Solarstone you could be right... what songs from the last 10 years would you say?

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    The thing is that uplifting doesnt even exists in the trance scene now...people just are lazy labelling everything as uplifting just because its heavy on the synth which is ridiculous

    Solarstone has never done a single uplifting production imo. Hes kind of his own style...but its not uplifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    The thing is that uplifting doesnt even exists in the trance scene now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hensmon View Post
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    I know you think im silly or nitpicking now but T1s style is too melancholic to be called uplifting. Have you ever listened to the awakening (ferry remix)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    The thing is that uplifting doesnt even exists in the trance scene now...people just are lazy labelling everything as uplifting just because its heavy on the synth which is ridiculous

    Solarstone has never done a single uplifting production imo. Hes kind of his own style...but its not uplifting.
    Please and Jewel are very uplifting imo.

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    Lol wtf @Daysleeper, you are getting too hipster about the details. People obviously define uplifting as different things, but for me if its a big melodic, powerful/intense, fast-paced rolling thing its Uplifting Trance. Awakening just seems like 'Trance' music to me, before all the splintering of the genres happened.

    Oliver Smith - Nimbus is perfect Uplifting Trance. Not far off what Temple One makes is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    You cant make any money from Trance unless you gig a lot. So producers making a generic style hoping to make loads of money are delusional.
    That's the only style that would get them played on the big radio shows, signed to the major trance labels and thus invited to gigs. As you correctly pointed out, they're delusional - they would be better off producing different genres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hensmon View Post
    Numb the pain was fantastic, but it wasnt really a new kind of idea was it?
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