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    Innovators in Trance

    This thread is dedicated to those who innovate, try something new within the genre of trance - and NOT to the other ones who play it safe. History is written by the victors, yes, but you could also post unsuccessful attempts.

    It could be yesterday's innovators, today's or tomorrow's. It doesn't really matter. It could be as little as making their own individual, unheard-of style or as big as creating a new sub-genre. But generally, exploring unexplored sounds.

    So, who do you consider an innovator within the trance genre?
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    Thinking about recent years,these two tracks from Jamie Walker showed some innovation in Trance - bringing some drum & bass and dubstep style sounds in,and it worked really well imo.





    Another one would be : Photographer - This Is Upstep (Unreleased Mix) ...but i cant find this version anywhere online.

    Going further back,id have to point to James Holden - what a unique style in Trance.

    Theres more - il have a think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    Photographer - This Is Upstep (Unreleased Mix) ...but i cant find this version anywhere online.
    Yes, that track was absolutely fascinating. Not sure why it never saw a release.

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    I really like the sort of lush, deep, slow trance that Simon Templar has been doing since around 2013 or so. Songs like "Meltwater (part II)" and "To the Stars." The only one I can think of who sounds similar is one of his fellow Finns, Incolumis, but he seemingly doesn't make music anymore. Those two definitely count as innovators to me, Simon currently and Incolumis in an earlier time. I guess some of the Digital Blonde's stuff is similar but I think he's different, and also his tracks most similar to these are more proggy/house/techno.


    This was track-of-the-year for me in 2013:



    This is almost like a melodic techno track, but it's around 136bpm.





    I'll have to think about current innovators in psy. Only two that come to mind off the top of my head are JaraLuca and Psy-H Project, but I don't really pay attention to what's going on in forest or hi-tech l so I'm sure there's more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstralNilaya View Post
    I really like the sort of lush, deep, slow trance that Simon Templar has been doing since around 2013 or so. Songs like "Meltwater (part II)" and "To the Stars." The only one I can think of who sounds similar is one of his fellow Finns, Incolumis, but he seemingly doesn't make music anymore. Those two definitely count as innovators to me, Simon currently and Incolumis in an earlier time. I guess some of the Digital Blonde's stuff is similar but I think he's different, and also his tracks most similar to these are more proggy/house/techno.


    This was track-of-the-year for me in 2013:

    [videyoutube;J2d5hPgIUuo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2d5hPgIUuo]movie[/URL]

    This is almost like a melodic techno track, but it's around 136bpm.

    [videyoutube;K4ACpI9lcq0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ACpI9lcq0]movie[/URL]
    That Incolumis track is one of my favourites. Comes off of ASOT 2006 CD 1, which is definitely my favourite mix, ever. I tried replicating that sound but it's very difficult. That style was a one-off, I find it hard to come across something even remotely similar, unfortunately.

    As with Meltwater II, I think J00F had more or less the same sound on his One Hundred Ten WKO. One example is this track, which focuses more on the organic sounds (organ) but I think they are quite similar.



    Meltwater II is a great track, has to be said. I love that sound.
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    One I'd definitely say innovated almost throughout his entire career is Airwave. His many different styles were unique. Ranging from his releases as Airwave, Planisphere, Lolo, Green Martian... It was always something different, something specific.

    But you could say a lot of trance artists in the earlier days were innovators. There was just so much to explore.
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    Simple for me: Airwave and MIKE.

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    I like this track THEREFOR its innovating. Get out of your shells people.
    Where is the music in todays "trance"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daysleeper View Post
    I like this track THEREFOR its innovating. Get out of your shells people.
    How about you answer the question - who do you think innovated something in trance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagi View Post
    How about you answer the question - who do you think innovated something in trance?
    Innovaters in trance seems to be a bit of contradiction because the strict definition of what trance is. I dont think much of the pure stuff I like is particulary innovative as a whole.


    Gai Barone - Mr Slade?
    Scot Project - O ?
    Midway - Monkey Forest/Inca? (I welcome anyone to "beat" this)
    Arty/Matzo - Rebound?
    Second Sun - Playground?
    Breakfast - The Horizon/The Dawn of Time/The Horizon?
    Andy Moor/Above Beyond - Air For Life/Halcyon
    Galen Behr/Ava Mea - In The End
    Jurgen Vries - The Theme?
    BBE - Seven days?
    Svenson & Gielen - Twisted (Jacob & Mendez Spanish Dub)?
    Storm - Time to Burn?
    Airbase/Jesper Söderlund - Monastery Hill/The Sound of Nothing
    Arksun - Arisen?
    Fable - Nightshift/Above?
    Armin/G&D - Zocalo?
    Marc Marcberg - Mehashira?
    Menno De Jong pres Myth - Sjaaman?
    Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes?
    Whirloop - Skog?
    Solid Globe - North Pole/South Pole etc?
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    Where is the music in todays "trance"?

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    Blueman invented/reinforced Orchestral.

    Just saying'.

    Airscape/Svenson & Gielen were very innovative with their sound.

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    I thought Ferry's electro-infused trance in the mid 2000s was rather innovative, especially with his LEF album. His stuff during that era had creative, storming electroish basslines but still kept the melodic and emotional essence of trance. Correct me if i'm wrong since i wasn't listening to trance back then, but no one seemed to have emulate that style of his and it hasn't enjoyed much of a resurgence in recent years either.



    Arty & Mat Zo's Rebound is a good shout as well. If i recall correctly this track formerly heralded Anjuna's arrival into trouse and away from trance, and it got a lot of hate too, but honestly i've always thought it was a very creative track. On a side note though, most thought uplifting trance in 2010/11 got increasingly stale and samey, and looking back it was quite the logical decision for Anjuna to move into slower territory. I wish they split the label, one side keeping it strictly trance and another one doing more experimental stuff.

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    Armin van Buuren.

    Never heard a trance track like this before.

    Truly innovative.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdelayna View Post
    Jamie Walker showed some innovation in Trance - bringing some drum & bass and dubstep style sounds in,and it worked really well imo.
    Innovative and original definitely, but I think faster tempo middle parts are usually avoided is because it causes an anti-climax when the slower trance beat is brought back. I think that's the reason that 'dubstep' break works better, at least for me.

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    Incolumis
    Incolumis was sort of second wave tech trance producer, in the original tech trance not to be confused with the dutch arena tech trance (Sander van Doorn, Signum, Ron van den Beuken, few of Rank 1's records). That sort of proper combination of techno and trance was originated by Oliver Lieb among others years before, and I'm sure were a huge influence for him. I have to say Incolumis might have perfected that style though with some of his early releases. Simon Templar is pushing the more underground hypnotic style of trance sound that has been forgotten by many, so I guess in that sense he's innovating although he isn't really doing anything new.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre92 View Post
    Blueman invented/reinforced Orchestral.
    Reinforced is a better word, Blueman in no way came up with that style. Before his Andy Blueman alias he used to share his tracks for free in amateur producer sites, and those tracks were very much stylistic copies of the supersaw driven tracks with classical influenced melodies done by producers like Unknown Source, Ferry Corsten (William Orbit remixes and even Tenshi & Ligaya to some extent) and others.




    Back then people more or less used only orchestral strings with trance sounds, but during Blueman and others the plugin samplers/romplers started to evolved, and we got these huge libraries of all sort of high quality orchestral sounds that shaped the genre to what it is now.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeenutsDx View Post
    I thought Ferry's electro-infused trance in the mid 2000s was rather innovative, especially with his LEF album. His stuff during that era had creative, storming electroish basslines but still kept the melodic and emotional essence of trance. Correct me if i'm wrong since i wasn't listening to trance back then, but no one seemed to have emulate that style of his and it hasn't enjoyed much of a resurgence in recent years either.
    Absolutely! I was around in web forums when 'Punk' came out and later the Right of Way album, and it caused a massive resentment among trance fans. The club going people loved it, but the keyboard warriors absolutely disliked it and thought it was more electro than trance. Ferry Corsten has definitely been one of the most influencial and innovative producers in the history of trance. He was also one of the biggest innovators in the late 1990s supersaw driven uplifting trance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N7pSTR View Post
    Armin van Buuren.

    Never heard a trance track like this before.

    Truly innovative.
    You must be the village idiot on parties and birthdays:-) This is popmusic.

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