Conservative or liberal (politics)

[dmgtz96]

Do you have a preferred candidate for replacement in mind?

There is no one, and that's the crazy thing.
Kamala Harris is too unlikable, which is the same problem Hillary had.

 

[Jetflag]

There is no one, and that's the crazy thing.
Kamala Harris is too unlikable, which is the same problem Hillary had.

True. I reckon Kennedy might be an appropriate challenger. He shares enough of the common-sense republican policies with trump that he can pull his voters for a large part towards him, yet be enough of a working-class /pro underprivileged Americans candidate, and a lifelong democrat, for the blues to vote him over Trump.

he is more then “just not trump” which is basically what Biden is/was.. + the fact that that would pull a key to the Dems (succesfull third party)

 

[Progrez]

What I find strange is how many retail shops, high class restaurants, foodmarkets and side shops, Shopping malls and pharmacies, Banks and houses and cinemas are being completely abandoned and boarded up and shutdown in LA/California and this Hollywood Boulevard where they have a lot of famous people's names on there very iconic people.

 

[dmgtz96]

What I find strange is how many retail shops, high class restaurants, foodmarkets and side shops, Shopping malls and pharmacies, Banks and houses and cinemas are being completely abandoned and boarded up and shutdown in LA/California and this Hollywood Boulevard where they have a lot of famous people's names on there very iconic people.

Homelessness and crime kill the appeal of these stores.

Anecdotally, I just moved to a different city in the US. On my way back from downtown to my apartment (right outside of downtown), I pass next to a parking garage where 20-25 homeless people gather. It's bizarre. I don't think I would walk that at night.

 

[dmgtz96]

Homelessness and crime kill the appeal of these stores.

Anecdotally, I just moved to a different city in the US. On my way back from downtown to my apartment (right outside of downtown), I pass next to a parking garage where 20-25 homeless people gather. It's bizarre. I don't think I would walk that at night.

Anyways, this story is slightly relevant since there are two high-end apartment complexes nearby that charge an arm and a leg. The reviews for both of them mentioned the homeless, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I came here. Thankfully, I am renting somewhere else.

Back to conservative/liberal stuff: one of the megachurches in Dallas went up in flames. Good, that's like... divine punishment for profiting off of God. I hope that happens to the other megachurches in the US. Whether by arson or by natural disaster, all of them deserve to be turned to rubble.

 

[Jetflag]

Good, that's like... divine punishment for profiting off of God. I hope that happens to the other megachurches in the US. Whether by arson or by natural disaster, all of them deserve to be turned to rubble.

Honestly dude, for that sentiment alone you deserve another 4 years of trump. Not gonna lie.

 

[dmgtz96]

Honestly dude, for that sentiment alone you deserve another 4 years of trump. Not gonna lie.

You're clearly not familiar with megachurches. They're all scammers and false prophets. We're not talking about regular churches here.

 

[Jetflag]

You're clearly not familiar with megachurches. They're all scammers and false prophets. We're not talking about regular churches here.

I am familiar with them, the ones (two to be precise) in my time in the USA where basically large places of Christian worship with rockbands.

but even if it’s true what you say, how even then does that sentiment, wishing arson, distinguish you from people who pray for abortion clinic bombings?

 

[dmgtz96]

I am familiar with them, the ones (two to be precise) in my time in the USA where basically large places of Christian worship with rockbands.

but even if it’s true what you say, how even then does that sentiment, wishing arson, distinguish you from people who pray for abortion clinic bombings?

There is no difference. I don't want to be better or more morally righteous than them.

 

[Jetflag]

There is no difference. I don't want to be better or more morally righteous than them.

So you’re just as bad as them then?

edit: I do appreciate the honesty though.

 

[dmgtz96]

So you’re just as bad as them then?

edit: I do appreciate the honesty though.

Exactly. There's no point in hiding it.

 

[Jetflag]

Exactly. There's no point in hiding it.

Fair enough, I do hope for your sake that the brewing civil war won’t come to pass, and that one day you’ll be able to look at the reps as fellow citizens

 

[Jetflag]

In other news, I do believe we have lads from Leeds & London here… u lot got anything from the riots? Or was it too localised/ not on your side of town?

 

[Progrez]

I personally think this is happening to all religions.

Anyways, this story is slightly relevant since there are two high-end apartment complexes nearby that charge an arm and a leg. The reviews for both of them mentioned the homeless, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I came here. Thankfully, I am renting somewhere else.

Back to conservative/liberal stuff: one of the megachurches in Dallas went up in flames. Good, that's like... divine punishment for profiting off of God. I hope that happens to the other megachurches in the US. Whether by arson or by natural disaster, all of them deserve to be turned to rubble.

 

[LostLegend]

I am familiar with them, the ones (two to be precise) in my time in the USA where basically large places of Christian worship with rockbands.

The Prosperity Bible is the main issue with these places.

They’ve essentially given themselves carte Blanche to shamelessly profiteer from their communities without putting anything back in. These people are not men of god, they are con artists who use the name of god to fill their own pockets.

I wouldn’t want to see these destroyed personally. Just stripped of their assets and return the wealth back to the community where it belongs.

 

[Jetflag]

The Prosperity Bible is the main issue with these places.

They’ve essentially given themselves carte Blanche to shamelessly profiteer from their communities without putting anything back in. These people are not men of god, they are con artists who use the name of god to fill their own pockets.

I wouldn’t want to see these destroyed personally. Just stripped of their assets and return the wealth back to the community where it belongs.

I’m sure some of them are but the impact and support I’ve seen up close, both in Ohio as well as as Texas, has been an uplifter, rather then a leecher for the communities there. Both in terms of wealth as well as spiritual well being.

I suspect this is one of those stereotypes that has been blown up out of proportion by the culture war in the US to convince as much people, you included, to hate the other camp.

like dmgtz96 admitted, we’re at a point where neither camp cares about lying, openly hating, or propagandizing the other side.

my advice would be to actually travel down there and visit a couple (assuming you haven’t that is)

 

[LostLegend]

I suspect this is one of those stereotypes that has been blown up out of proportion by the culture war in the US to convince as much people, you included, to hate the other camp.

This has nothing to do with the ‘culture war’. I think you’re letting your obsession with it cloud your opinions on other matters.

Do yourself a favour and look up what the Prosperity Bible actually is, why it’s a problem and why people like Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland are so universally disliked by anyone with a conscience and have been long before this so called ‘culture war’ has been around.

 

[dmgtz96]

This has nothing to do with the ‘culture war’. I think you’re letting your obsession with it cloud your opinions on other matters.

Do yourself a favour and look up what the Prosperity Bible actually is, why it’s a problem and why people like Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland are so universally disliked by anyone with a conscience and have been long before this so called ‘culture war’ has been around.

Joel Osteen closed his church during Hurricane Harvey. Those people don't care about anyone other than themselves.

 

[dmgtz96]

Like dmgtz96 admitted, we’re at a point where neither camp cares about lying, openly hating, or propagandizing the other side.

yeah. If they didn't push for legislation that denies the existence of others (all the anti trans care), controls women's bodies (repeal of Roe v Wade), that funnels taxpayer money to the rich, *and* if they didn't back Trump, maybe I could show them a little bit more empathy. As things stand now, there's 0 reason for me or anyone liberal to give them the benefit of the doubt. These people are my ideological and moral enemies.

When people like Josh Hawley (self proclaimed Christian Nationalist) exist, we have to double down on our dislike and intolerance for their side.

 

[LostLegend]

Welp, Biden has stepped down.

I guess we'll find out soon who's gonna be running in his place.