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Jetflag

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The World Cup has started... Do you know what's happening while the World Cup is going on? Did you hear that children are being kidnapped in Venezuela?
Don't you see what's happening in the skies over Europe
ok...What does that have to do with English or dutch flags being raised and our respective establishment not liking that, but not being able to do anything about it?
I'm not saying you should do nothing, but you just have to invert the pyramid... you can't just stand there watching food get more expensive every day, watching you not be able to afford property...
I don’t know what you mean by that platitude in this context specifically, nor what it practically entails for me engaging in political discourse.
because if you’re referring to alternative streams to (for instance) feeding my family -> I already have that/ have arranged that.
And if you suggest revolt/ revolution, then your earlier suggestion of not engaging in the political process is oxymoronic.

Tell me, did you see the news from Colombia recently? Something happened that really caught my attention and that's happening in every country in the world, it's just not getting coverage. Brazil also reported this.
no. I have not actually, what happened?

Do you really think your vote is valid?
Singular no. with enough critical mass in likeminded voting patterns. Yes. Demonstrably.

Believe me, you're involved in something truly fictional.
You seem to be off the opinion that nót using your right to vote is somehow the more preferable and effective option to “stick it to the man” then the other way around, which honestly, I find equally laughable.
 
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Hurr de durr I'm a enlightened centrist I stand for nothing and I'm a exemplary human
Counterpoint: I now identify as post-political, therefore the nonsense of the left and the right are largely irrelevant to my life’s goals and missions. It’s just a waste of intellectual and emotional bandwidth
 

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What has any of that got to do with flying flags in the UK? 🤷‍♂️

*Does it have a lot to do with it, or are you missing the message?

Video (twitter)

*Who authorizes the subject not to be detained?
They're the same ones who say they can't raise a flag in your country... your king

Who manipulates the media in your country?

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How many times have you heard on television that a country in the world is experiencing economic growth?
Who is manipulating this information? There is only one answer: the politicians and the government.

*While you and all your friends are watching the World Cup... this happens

Video 3

This also happens.

*Keep watching the World Cup and keep believing that the politicians are doing everything in your favor.

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I'll repeat it one more time in case it's not clear. Politicians are not your friends. While you're unprotected, they're simply passing new laws to keep you quiet. If that's not clear to you, then the problem isn't the politicians, the problem is you.
 

cyalataque

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ok...What does that have to do with English or dutch flags being raised and our respective establishment not liking that, but not being able to do anything about it?

I don’t know what you mean by that platitude in this context specifically, nor what it practically entails for me engaging in political discourse.
because if you’re referring to alternative streams to (for instance) feeding my family -> I already have that/ have arranged that.
And if you suggest revolt/ revolution, then your earlier suggestion of not engaging in the political process is oxymoronic.


no. I have not actually, what happened?


Singular no. with enough critical mass in likeminded voting patterns. Yes. Demonstrably.


You seem to be off the opinion that nót using your right to vote is somehow the more preferable and effective option to “stick it to the man” then the other way around, which honestly, I find equally laughable.
I don't understand if you can read or if you simply can't connect everything that happens to politics. 😫
 

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*Does it have a lot to do with it, or are you missing the message?

Video (twitter)

*Who authorizes the subject not to be detained?
They're the same ones who say they can't raise a flag in your country... your king

Who manipulates the media in your country?

Video 2

How many times have you heard on television that a country in the world is experiencing economic growth?
Who is manipulating this information? There is only one answer: the politicians and the government.

*While you and all your friends are watching the World Cup... this happens

Video 3

This also happens.

*Keep watching the World Cup and keep believing that the politicians are doing everything in your favor.

Video 4
Video 5
Video 6
Video 7
Video 8

I'll repeat it one more time in case it's not clear. Politicians are not your friends. While you're unprotected, they're simply passing new laws to keep you quiet. If that's not clear to you, then the problem isn't the politicians, the problem is you.
I mean you are posting a load of Twitter reactionary ragebait here, still no evidence of anyone being prevented from raising a flag.

Honestly, mate. Get off the internet for a bit, go outside, touch grass.
 

dmgtz96

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I mean you are posting a load of Twitter reactionary ragebait here, still no evidence of anyone being prevented from raising a flag.

Honestly, mate. Get off the internet for a bit, go outside, touch grass.
Agreed, tbh I have no idea what that user is trying to say. It feels like a collection of disjointed thoughts
 

Jetflag

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I don't understand if you can read or if you simply can't connect everything that happens to politics. 😫
I can read😄, but you seem to be connecting dots at random and calling it a pattern, and non of it addresses the initial point/ dilemma raised->considering one should or should not engage in the political process. 🤷

so let’s go with what you posted to Bren, which I think I can summarise as:

- the legacy media preforms In sync
- national politics hate their local populus, have a big globalist club with grandiose ideas, who are in control, and you ain’t innit.

ok.

that still doesn’t address the what-now, does it?

And while we’re at it, let me raise another plausibility for you, given how much said “club” fails all the time, (like preventing people raising flags) and has to put time efforts and energy into “controlling us” all the beeping time...

>what if nobody is actually in control?<

..and the big elites are Homo-Sapien apes just like us with exactly the same set of human limitations, desires, flaws etc?

* Note: this is not me/us thinking you’re dumb or taking piss at you or anything…there might very well be truth to your claim, but you’re moving to erratic in your argument for me/us to follow you properly.
 
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cyalataque

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I can read😄, but you seem to be connecting dots at random and calling it a pattern, and non of it addresses the initial point/ dilemma raised->considering one should or should not engage in the political process. 🤷

so let’s go with what you posted to Bren, which I think I can summarise as:

- the legacy media preforms In sync
- national politics hate their local populus, have a big globalist club with grandiose ideas, who are in control, and you ain’t innit.

ok.

that still doesn’t address the what-now, does it?

And while we’re at it, let me raise another plausibility for you, given how much said “club” fails all the time, (like preventing people raising flags) and has to put time efforts and energy into “controlling us” all the beeping time...

>what if nobody is actually in control?<

..and the big elites are Homo-Sapien apes just like us with exactly the same set of human limitations, desires, flaws etc?

* Note: this is not me/us thinking you’re dumb or taking piss at you or anything…there might very well be truth to your claim, but you’re moving to erratic in your argument for me/us to follow you properly.
Don't think I'm stupid, because even I simply wasn't cruel to you. Now, if I decide to be cruel and show you everything, I'll probably be banned from this community. Why? Simply to show you a truth that you can't even see in crumbs.
 

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I mean you are posting a load of Twitter reactionary ragebait here, still no evidence of anyone being prevented from raising a flag.

Honestly, mate. Get off the internet for a bit, go outside, touch grass.
What do you mean he doesn't post anything? Hahaha, are you blind? The flag isn't just a physical thing with colors, it's simply represented in self-designation...

I'm going to repeat this to you like I did to the person before... this is going to get me banned from this community.

I am 100% sure that if I write down the reality that you are not even capable of perceiving, you will surely not be able to accept it.
 

cyalataque

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All politicians are against you learning to value yourself.
All politicians don't want you to be able to survive on your own.
All politicians are worried about you being ignorant.
All politicians forbid speaking ill of them.
All politicians simply don't want you to express yourself.

Why don't politicians let you prosper? Simply because you're not capable????????????

All politicians send messages to keep you believing that the reality you see on television is what is really happening.

if you can't see an elephant in the room...
 

dmgtz96

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Don't think I'm stupid, because even I simply wasn't cruel to you. Now, if I decide to be cruel and show you everything, I'll probably be banned from this community. Why? Simply to show you a truth that you can't even see in crumbs.
I sent Gemini your chunk of text in comment #1428, and it thinks that you’re largely venting and expressing anger instead of exchanging ideas. To be honest, the rest of the comments also come across that way just by skimming them through.

You should chill out. You’re getting upset at nothing.
 
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I am 100% sure that if I write down the reality that you are not even capable of perceiving, you will surely not be able to accept it.

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Nigel Farage attempting to slime his way out of the millions in undeclared donations & gifts scandal by resigning as MP for Clacton and immediately standing in for reelection stating “This will be a people versus the establishment by-election.”
Believing that winning an immediate re-election will somehow vindicate him of any wrongdoing.

But:

All the other parties, in a rare show of unity, have agreed to not contest him, therefore turning his plan into an absolute farce.
All, except one person:


This is backfiring quite spectacularly for Farage here :ROFLMAO:
 

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Nigel Farage attempting to slime his way out of the millions in undeclared donations & gifts scandal by resigning as MP for Clacton and immediately standing in for reelection stating “This will be a people versus the establishment by-election.”
Believing that winning an immediate re-election will somehow vindicate him of any wrongdoing.

But:

All the other parties, in a rare show of unity, have agreed to not contest him, therefore turning his plan into an absolute farce.
All, except one person:


This is backfiring quite spectacularly for Farage here :ROFLMAO:
I love this for him
 
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I specifically said the opposite m8....
Well, the problem with that poster is that they’re not elaborating about any of their beliefs. Right now, what it looks like is “none of you can see the truth I am seeing; me mentioning it would get me banned.”

it looks less like an orator presenting a coherent argument and more like a crazy person rambling in the street
 

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Well, the problem with that poster is that they’re not elaborating about any of their beliefs. Right now, what it looks like is “none of you can see the truth I am seeing; me mentioning it would get me banned.”

it looks less like an orator presenting a coherent argument and more like a crazy person rambling in the street
…while there are definitely some truth to his claims I think.. legacy media for instance seems to be operating in sync, and politicians/Governments do hold (and always have) a monopoly on power

That’s not what is in dispute,

what is is dispute is:
- is voting/engaging in the political process preferable to not in that context and why?
- how “absolute” is their power in light of their dependency on populus mandate?
- to what degree do “they” have control given the amount of failures and effort to exert said control?

Also: why he thinks he would get banned for the discourse here eludes me.. you don’t seem to be breaking any forum rules @cyalataque.. why do you think you’d get banned?
 
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Jetflag

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Nigel Farage attempting to slime his way out of the millions in undeclared donations & gifts scandal by resigning as MP for Clacton and immediately standing in for reelection stating “This will be a people versus the establishment by-election.”
Believing that winning an immediate re-election will somehow vindicate him of any wrongdoing.

But:

All the other parties, in a rare show of unity, have agreed to not contest him, therefore turning his plan into an absolute farce.
All, except one person:


This is backfiring quite spectacularly for Farage here :ROFLMAO:
God I hope binface wins..
 

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…while there are definitely some truth to his claims I think.. legacy media for instance seems to be operating in sync, and politicians/Governments do hold (and always have) a monopoly on power

That’s not what is in dispute,

what is is dispute is:
- is voting/engaging in the political process preferable to not in that context and why?
- how “absolute” is their power in light of their dependency on populus mandate?
- to what degree do “they” have control given the amount of failures and effort to exert said control?

Also: why he thinks he would get banned for the discourse here eludes me.. you don’t seem to be breaking any forum rules @cyalataque.. why do you think you’d get banned?
Sorry, yeah, I haven’t really looked much into what he’s saying. I just see the disjointed statements, the “I’m seeing the truth you guys can’t” and “saying this would get me banned” persona, and my bullshit meters flare up