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Saw the trailer for Dune in the cinema before Bond started, looked fantastic on the big screen. But didn't see anything special about it, seemed like Star Wars, right?
 
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Saw the trailer for Dune in the cinema before Bond started, looked fantastic on the big screen. But didn't see anything special about it, seemed like Star Wars, right?
This is without a doubt the most ludicrous thing I've read all year

It's like saying LOTR is like Warcraft because they both have orcs and humans - I can't even.... no no, I'm banning myself
 

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Bond was... very Bond.

Great experience on a big screen, wouldn't bother watching it at home though.
Can't help but feel that the whole concept is seriously showing its age now though.
 
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Raging Bull (1980)

Worth 2 hours of watching just for the heavy Little Italy accents, loved that. The movie was very good too.
 

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Saw the trailer for Dune in the cinema before Bond started, looked fantastic on the big screen. But didn't see anything special about it, seemed like Star Wars, right?
I would say that Dune is more darker compared to Star Wars and Star Wars is a Space Opera about family.
 
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I am re watching Star Wars episode 1 - SHIT I didn't realise that Keira Knightly was playing a young Padmé.
 

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I would say that Dune is more darker compared to Star Wars. Dune is more Science Fantasy which is a space opera it's not hard science fiction like say the Martian and while Star Wars is a Space Opera about family.
how on earth did you get to Dune being more Science Fantasy then Star wars? lol
 

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Aaaaand I'm back from Bond. Still haven't had the time to process it fully, so anything I write should be taken with a grain of salt. But I'm gonna say it regardless.

I'm going to try to keep it spoiler-free, but if you don't want to know absolutely anything, don't read this. So here we go...

No Time To Die (2021)

Alright, firstly, the cinema experience. The movie's made for it, and it looks phenomenal on screen. I mean we're in the 21st century now, everything looks almost realistic (if not blown up even more), so that's good I guess.

That's also its bad side. It's not all fights and explosions, but if it's not that then it's tense dialogue. There's no more 'relaxed' scenes, where Bond takes a minute to arrive somewhere, get settled or enjoy the setting. Just lots of tense scenes, one after another. Like trance nowadays. Very little breathing room. They try to fix that with the occasional humorous remark, but it's sitcom-like for the most part. A silly character, or some small banter.

Then there's Bond as a character. Take only his name out of this movie and you're left with what's basically a typical blockbuster - that's another thing that ties together with the character. There's no charm, very little wit, very little extensive knowledge about anything, very little trained effortlessness, savoir-faire... Bond is just an average protagonist. He's trying to save the world of the bigger threat than it was in the previous movie, by trying to defeat the badder villain than he had to face in the last movie. Everything feels bigger and more intense, and they seem like they had to cram in so much action/tense stuff that there's really no place for the character to shine, no place for any emotional development. The movies need action scenes, and they come with a big expense. That said, all the other characters seem to have no impact whatsoever. Bunch of randos as far as I'm concerned. M doesn't have that natural authority and presence anymore - it's always some tension, constant questioning and hard decisions involved. Moneypenny is just a secretary now, there's no more casual flirting involved at all. Q is a programming wiz kid hipster. And so on...

The story is alright, moves ok but it is very overblown.

And for a movie about a spy, there's very little espionage!!!!

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not one of those dudes who thinks Sean Connery is an ideal of Bond and that Bond movies were shit since 1968. Bond movies were generally crap, but the character was fun to watch, if nothing else. Dame Judi Dench was awesome as M. Craig absolutely shone in Casino Royale (which, in my eyes, is the best Bond movie, along with Dr. No). Timothy Dalton's angry Bond sort of worked for me. Le Chiffre was fantastic as an antagonist, absolutely realistic.

And then there's the little things, like fire from hand grenades (I mean come on...), a bit too many bullets flying around and not hitting the good guys. And for a movie with so many bullets, we see no wounds. When someone gets shot, they are almost always far or out of focus. Ratings are a bitch I know, but this is just too much.

What's worse...the production team, writers, directors, owners etc. all know this, and would probably agree.

And now...for the end. Warning: Contains spoilers.

The final act is just as the rest of the movie: action-packed and tense all the way. But the ending is almost as unexpected as it is good. Like, really good. But, it could've been explored a bit more, emotionally.

And as we see his career come to an end here, he's almost a family man instead of what can basically be described as a high-functioning alcoholic (and so on).

I would've also liked a sudden death as well, or something vague.

I really wonder what's gonna happen next with the franchise. Like, is it over? Where does the next Bond come in, after we've seen the beginning and the end of Bond's 007 career (especially under Craig)?


So to conclude, I did enjoy seeing this. It's definitely not the worst movie, and it's fun to watch if you can shut down your analytical brain for almost 3 hours, as I did. And even now I still kind of liked it. But it's definitely not one of the greats.

I found it to be basically Jason Bourne with an english accent.

still, its wasn't half as bad as I expected it to be. With all the "how bond is feminist now" and "a bond movie for the metoo era" as pre op;eds aswell as trailer footage of him being constantly belittled and berated by "insert diversity caracters here " I half expected it to go the way of Ghostbusters 2016.

Quite Happy to see it didn't and they gave the francise a (semi) decent farewel ending without giving the main protagonist the Luke Skywalker treatment.

All and all I think its a niceísh movie.

its just not a bond movie.
 
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This honestly makes my nipples harder than what they are supposed to be

 

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This honestly makes my nipples harder than what they are supposed to be


The trailer is fantastic. This film has a strong chance of succeeding. Batman, who is incensed. Everything looks good: sound, acting, and atmosphere. This film has piqued my interest. I'm really excited about it.
 

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I liked how the plane scene from the game was featured in the film. I'm not sure whether casting Mark Wahlberg in the film was a wise choice. His previous Max Payne film, which was based on a video game, was a tremendous disappointment. I'm hoping he succeeds this time. There's also the curse that game movies are often flops. This, too, must be overcome.
 

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Today I saw the film "Dune (2021)." I wasn't overly impressed. Even if the visuals, costume design, aesthetics, and action scenes were breathtaking, I believe the film failed in two areas. One is the storyline and another one is character development. Both felt muddled. There were so many amazing actors in this film. They didn't feel like they were living up to their full potential. It is, however, the first part of the film series. They even mentioned in the end that it was only the beginning. I'm hoping they put more attention on the story and character development in the sequel. This film receives a 6 out of 10 rating from me.
 
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Currently going through a couple of director filmographies from start to finish.
Just caught up with Céline Sciamma, who made one of the best movies of 2019, Portrait de la jeune fille en feu (Portrait of a Lady on Fire). Can't wait to watch her latest movie, Petit Maman. Her stories are usually very narrow in scope, but incredibly emotional and usually packs a punch. The only movie I missed was Girlhood, which was a great watch. Karidja Touré is amazing in it and she really shows a wide range of emotions.

Currently going through the Argentine filmmaker and provocateur Gaspar Noé, who really knows how to write, direct and tell disturbing movies. He has had a rather short directing carreer so far, but his movies are superb and well-crafted.

Next up will most likely be either Michael Haneke, Jacques Demy or Louis Malle