Armin steps over the line

facade1984

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As is often the case that's a hell of a lot of words yet somehow I still don't understand your position. You speak in very vague terms a lot of the time, whether that's a deliberate tactic or not I'm again unsure. But here's what happened as far as I'm concerned. OP came in with what looks like some thinly veiled homophobia and as they chose to start talking about it on a public forum I don't think me asking for some further explanation from them is unreasonable. Also it's not at all a political thing so there should be no need to take it there. Were supposed to be an inclusive community so I think we should all be responsible for calling this type of behavior out. Again, not getting into some hypothetical/semantic debate side quest with you, I just wanna hear more about what op's problem is
 
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As is often the case that's a hell of a lot of words yet somehow I still don't understand your position. You speak in very vague terms a lot of the time, whether that's a deliberate tactic or not I'm again unsure.
i'm mostly typing/thinking out loud as I go (with massive sleep depravation i might add) , but here's my position on this in a simple nuttshell.

Its perfectly ok for Armin to do this, and for OP to be cringed out/turned down by it/ by celebrity Dj's make overt political/ideological statements online.

what looks like some thinly veiled homophobia
where?

Were supposed to be an inclusive community so I think we should all be responsible for calling this type of behavior out.
Were not supposed to be anyting....who decides that? the Priests of the 70's house scene Orthodoxy?..

This ís an inclusive community.. inclusive of people from all walks of life/backgrounds/ideas and perspectives... as long as they don't break the forum rules.

Again, not getting into some hypothetical/semantic debate side quest with you, I just wanna hear more about what op's problem is
sure, but you make it seem like he has to be banned for simply not liking this m8 😄....like where's the inclusivity? you don't seem to want an inclusive community..you want an exclusive one where any person who steps outside the boundaries of what you consider to be acceptable is publically flogged.
 

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As is often the case that's a hell of a lot of words yet somehow I still don't understand your position. You speak in very vague terms a lot of the time, whether that's a deliberate tactic or not I'm again unsure. But here's what happened as far as I'm concerned. OP came in with what looks like some thinly veiled homophobia and as they chose to start talking about it on a public forum I don't think me asking for some further explanation from them is unreasonable. Also it's not at all a political thing so there should be no need to take it there. Were supposed to be an inclusive community so I think we should all be responsible for calling this type of behavior out. Again, not getting into some hypothetical/semantic debate side quest with you, I just wanna hear more about what op's problem is
I never viewed the OP as being remotely 'homophobic'...you can dress up as a woman without having any 'gay' issues with it...ive dressed up as freddy mercury with a wig and skirt for a fancy dress party (i want to break free persona haha).
 

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sure, but you make it seem like he has to be banned for simply not liking this m8 😄....like where's the inclusivity? you don't seem to want an inclusive community..you want an exclusive one where any person who steps outside the boundaries of what you consider to be acceptable is publically flogged.
He never said he wants him banned though? 👀 just wants to know what the issue is which is fair enough cause I really dont get it either.
 
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Jetflag

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He never said he wants him banned though? 👀 just wants to know what the issue is which is fair enough cause I really dont get it either.
true, he did make it seem like it though "drag yo ass tf out of here" et all.

other then that yeah fair enough lets see what OP thinks.

like said I think it can boil down to two reasons, individually or combined:
1: the whole grown-men with gender disphoria symptoms playing girly dressup is somewhat uncanny to him. (which you know, fair enuf)
2: he dislikes the cheap virtue signalling from Armin and/or other artists, regardless of what that signalling is even.

the latter is the part i can mostly relate too probably...though i don't think armin overly did it in this case.
 
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Jetflag

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I never viewed the OP as being remotely 'homophobic'...you can dress up as a woman without having any 'gay' issues with it...ive dressed up as freddy mercury with a wig and skirt for a fancy dress party (i want to break free persona haha).
pics or it didn't happen :sneaky:
 

trancefan2020

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Armin went on a show dressed up as a drag queen to highlight that its ok for people to express themselves how they want to. I dont see what the issue is?
They have gay parades for that. The issue is his political propaganda and linguistic anti logic.
 

trancefan2020

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"Stepped over the line" - What a silly thing to say. Life is not so serious all the time, it's just a bit of fun. It's a TV show mate.

Whatever position or statement you, as an artist, make: you’re going to alienate people regardless.

so armin should support or do what he damn well pleases,

and if you hate that with a passion you should shrug and walk away.



Lol
Can he smoke , drink alcohol , speed and associate with anyone he wants to ? Can he proclaim himself and dress up like a prime minister of Netherlands? He may as well and he wants to but he lives somewhere and there is millions of things he can't do. I don't hate him , I just don't care about his words and actions anymore. If someone says that this is freedom then I think you may live the most constrained lifestyle possible.
 

trancefan2020

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No

Be who YOU want to be. Be that man, woman, alien, toothbrush, thumbprint.. so long as it isnt harming anyone else then what's the problem?
He is not who he wants to be. He wants to bewhat he isn't andit shows in the contradictions.