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[dmgtz96]

I like Elon musk, think he’s a genuine force for good in this world/ humanity in general, in terms of human rights/free speech, sustainable energy transition, AI and making life multi planetary as well as being a welcome pain in the ass against pompous and incompetent bureaucrats who some seem to deify as the Church in the 1600ths.

Feel free to label me a heretic in the name of your preferred Reddit cult and/or corrupt media corpus of choice

Tesla, SpaceX, etc. run *despite* of him, not because of him. He doesn't really contribute to the companies other than being a hype-man and artificially pumping the stock.

He supported the candidate that threatened to kill the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit, simply because the lack of the tax credit would hurt Tesla's competitors much more than Tesla. Trump's policies will hurt the EV transition in the US, which is already falling behind the rest of the developed world.

The guy spends all his time playing Diablo and shitposting on Twitter/X, lol. He's not a real leader, and you shouldn't credit him for the accomplishments of his companies.

 

[facade1984]

I don't understand how folks big him up as a free speech advocate when he's shown time and time again that he's anything but

 

[Jetflag]

Tesla, SpaceX, etc. run *despite* of him, not because of him. He doesn't really contribute to the companies other than being a hype-man and artificially pumping the stock. The guy spends all his time playing Diablo and shitposting on Twitter/X, lol. He's not a real leader, and you shouldn't credit him for the accomplishments of his companies.

He defacto got them running in the first place,

...and now they can run without him yes, so he can kick back and " play diablo and shitpost on X,"

so no. They do run because of him, because he got them running.

To suggest that all of those extraordinary features, like breaking through the EV market and making Tesla the only new profitable car company in the US since ...when, reusable rockets caught by a chopstick tower, something NASA or any space agency ever managed,internet banking, zip2 etc. all just happened by themselves with him "coincidently" just being the constant common "hype" demonator everywhere.. (even though he's a massive autist and there's far better showmen then him). To me demonstrates the utter dishonesty and screetch-mode of the musk-hate-boner cult that emerged post 2017, when he switched sides. which the left-wing bubble never forgave him for, and hence the witchhunt began.

its perfectly fine to dislike the mans personality, but to shrug literally all his accomplishments concerning his companies aside as "just the hype man" to me is nothing more then dishonest resentment with a massive dose of tribalism.

He supported the candidate that threatened to kill the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit, simply because the lack of the tax credit would hurt Tesla's competitors much more than Tesla. Trump's policies will hurt the EV transition in the US, which is already falling behind the rest of the developed world.

Yes, Musk is totally fine with not getting government handouts to keep his companies, in this case Tesla, rolling m8... sais something about his competency and that of those who do need said government handhouts.

 

[Jetflag]

I don't understand how folks big him up as a free speech advocate when he's shown time and time again that he's anything but

he's not a free speech absolutist/extremist. But compared to the extremely biased moderated leftwing censor platform twitter used to be before he took over, i'd say on the free speech front its a hell of an improvement.

 

[LostLegend]

he's not a free speech absolutist/extremist. But compared to the extremely biased moderated leftwing censor platform twitter used to be before he took over, i'd say on the free speech front its a hell of an improvement.

Everything else on there has gone to shit though. I only use it for music and and football stuff for the most part these days, yet my ‘For You’ section is a cesspit of MAGA trolls, porn bots and crypto perverts.

The community notes thing is a good feature, mind!

 

[Jetflag]

Everything else on there has gone to shit though. I only use it for music and and football stuff for the most part these days, yet my ‘For You’ section is a cesspit of MAGA trolls, porn bots and crypto perverts.

The community notes thing is a good feature, mind!

oh yeah, i'm not an X member for that reason, though I do spy on it occasionally for meme content. It was purely a free speech observation..It remains very much to be seen if he can even churn a profit from it this year..though the internal docs have it at 3 bil in revenue, but that could be deliberatly leaked.

 

[Jetflag]

maybe I should sub to X actually....you know. up the level of wholesome normie trance music content there.

 

[Jetflag]

speaking of memes. This is just gold

Just Look at the expression of Trump vs that of Kennedy..

top comments: "Make america healty again starts tomorrow"

we are living in a simulation lmao. This could come straight out of Dall-E image generator

 

[dmgtz96]

maybe I should sub to X actually....you know. up the level of wholesome normie trance music content there.

X seems to be on the decline. Blue Sky might be a better alternative!

 

[Jetflag]

X seems to be on the decline. Blue Sky might be a better alternative!

I highly doubt so m8...they're drowning in stuff being reported , the entire left-leaning twitter space has moved there and they do nothing but report any and all things " triggering and offensive" in an attempt to bastion a "safe space"

3000 reports per hour!

Looks to me like they're going the Parler route, only then to the other side of the political spectrum.

 

[dmgtz96]

It looks like Matt Gaetz is in deep trouble. He deserves everything bad that happens to him. Even the other Republicans are turning against him.

 

[facade1984]

"Donnie will save as from the nonces" Meanwhile *appoints matt gaetz*

 

[Jetflag]

we'll c in how far this is the per-usual which hunt based on innuendo, gossip talk and 0 actual evidence that the dems are well known for, Or that he is indeed a sex offender..

its not a smart pick in any case, i mean even if he want someone loyal to him, which is understandable, there have to be a myriad of other picks he can choose from the justice department without said baggage.

 

[dmgtz96]

we'll c in how far this is the per-usual which hunt based on innuendo, gossip talk and 0 actual evidence that the dems are well known for, Or that he is indeed a sex offender..

its not a smart pick in any case, i mean even if he want someone loyal to him, which is understandable, there have to be a myriad of other picks he can choose from the justice department without said baggage.

It's not a witch hunt. The allegations he's facing are serious. They should be addressed before he takes up the position of AG.

 

[Jetflag]

It's not a witch hunt. The allegations he's facing are serious. They should be addressed before he takes up the position of AG.

One does not exclude the other, serious allegations can, and have been part of (a) whichhunt(s).

 

[dmgtz96]

One does not exclude the other, serious allegations can, and have been part of (a) whichhunt(s).

The problem with witch hunt terminology is that it implies Matt Gaetz is somehow innocent, or that the investigation is unfair and biased against him.

 

[Jetflag]

The problem with witch hunt terminology is that it implies Matt Gaetz is somehow innocent, or that the investigation is unfair and biased against him.

He is innocent of said accusation, until proven guilty @dmgtz96

the fact that you hate him, and desperately want him to be guilty of the accused crime does not make it so

and I’m not saying there is defacto a whichhunt going on, I’m saying it’s very well possible there is.

do you deny that it could be possible?

 

[dmgtz96]

He is innocent of said accusation, until proven guilty @dmgtz96

the fact that you hate him, and desperately want him to be guilty of the accused crime does not make it so

and I’m not saying there is defacto a whichhunt going on, I’m saying it’s very well possible there is.

do you deny that it could be possible?

He has enough of a shady past that it should pump the brakes for his nomination to attorney general.

Edit: if that ethics report is a nothing burger, sure, nominate him for the position. But chances are, there are some dirty secrets in there that his supporters don't want the public to know.

 

[Jetflag]

He has enough of a shady past that it should pump the brakes for his nomination to attorney general.

Edit: if that ethics report is a nothing burger, sure, nominate him for the position. But chances are, there are some dirty secrets in there that his supporters don't want the public to know.

What has he been convicted for? Not accused, convicted.

anyone can accuse anyone m8, we’ve seen that clear as day during the kavanaugh trial.

And again right.. I’m not suggesting he should be put forth for the position.. I’m saying 2 things:

1 accusations alone are not enough to therefor no-nomination.

2 this might on the flip side be a political move by his detractors

 

[dmgtz96]

What has he been convicted for? Not accused, convicted.

anyone can accuse anyone m8, we’ve seen that clear as day during the kavanaugh trial.

And again right.. I’m not suggesting he should be put forth for the position.. I’m saying 2 things:

1 accusations alone are not enough to therefor no-nomination.

2 this might on the flip side be a political move by his detractors

Then you wouldn't be opposed to the release of the report, correct?