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[LostLegend]

Axel Rudekubana, the guy who committed the mass stabbing in Southport which caused all the riots in the UK sentenced to a minimum of 52 years in jail before he is eligible for parole.

They wanted a whole life sentence, but couldn’t due to him being a minor at the time of the attack.
He’ll still likely never get out, but it still feels kinda wrong that they couldn’t just slap him with 100 years and be done with it given he killed 3 kids.

It has now been confirmed that he was not a practicing Muslim nor had any links to any terrorist group.
So congrats to all the fucking Neanderthals who burnt my fucking local library down because Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage lied to you about the killers ethnicity and nationality.

*deep breaths*

 

[Jetflag]

good, hope he rots.

 

[Jetflag]

Axel Rudekubana, the guy who committed the mass stabbing in Southport which caused all the riots in the UK sentenced to a minimum of 52 years in jail before he is eligible for parole.

They wanted a whole life sentence, but couldn’t due to him being a minor at the time of the attack.
He’ll still likely never get out, but it still feels kinda wrong that they couldn’t just slap him with 100 years and be done with it given he killed 3 kids.

It has now been confirmed that he was not a practicing Muslim nor had any links to any terrorist group.
So congrats to all the fucking Neanderthals who burnt my fucking local library down because Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage lied to you about the killers ethnicity and nationality.

*deep breaths*

not any links to any terrorist group..yet charged for possession of terrorist documents..I mean regarding his faith sure. but its not like the terrorist thing was a complete and deliberated "lie" on the doorstep of nigel and tommy is it? I mean an Al Quaida training manual on how to kill people? thats more then a bit sus no.

good to seem him locked for life though. Did they actually get a motive from him?

 

[LostLegend]

not any links to any terrorist group..yet charged for possession of terrorist documents..I mean regarding his faith sure. but its not like the terrorist thing was a complete and deliberated "lie" on the doorstep of nigel and tommy is it? I mean an Al Quaida training manual on how to kill people? thats more then a bit sus no.

good to seem him locked for life though. Did they actually get a motive from him?

The terrorist document was actually a US training manual (CIA or similar) for helping agents spot devices and what not that Al Qaida trained domestic terrorists might try to build using readily available equipment. It still shows how these devices and whatnot are made, hence the reason it is illegal, but not directly created by Al Qaida.
Likely where he got the ricin recipe from.

Tommy, Farage and co spread the lie that he was a Muslim illegal immigrant who had arrived in Dover on a small boat. Hence the race/immigration riots.
He was born in Wales, is a British citizen and not a Muslim.

As for motive, it looks like he was just crazy.

They didn’t find any manifesto or direct connection to any extremist groups religious or otherwise, though he had been referred to an anti-extremism government agency called ‘Prevent’ due to having a bizarre fascination with US school shootings, mass murders and various terrors attacks around the world

He apparently was escorted from the dock on several occasions during the trial for ranting and raving at the judge. And apparently has a long history of violent offences and violent/disturbing behaviour.

But it looks like a LOT of red flags were overlooked by authorities (police and social services) and some heads may well roll should there be an enquiry after the fact.

Axel Rudakubana: How was Southport killer allowed to fall through the cracks?

A picture of the teenage killer's descent into violence has emerged since he carried out the murders.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sounds very much like he is an extremely disturbed individual.

 

[Jetflag]

Disturbed by what, and/or what his rankings where is what I’d like to know..

anyways this will probably have a tail post hoc

 

[Jetflag]

Right, ya'll gonna witness something extraordinary, I am actually going to Trump-Dunk a bit.

Granted.. this is still very spectulative, we dont' know what he's actually going to do and/or if the media is reporting on this correctly....
But

Trump threatens Putin with taxes, tariffs and sanctions over Ukraine war

US president tells his Russian counterpart to ‘settle now and stop this ridiculous war’ or face repercussions

www.theguardian.com

Taxes Tariffs and Sanctions is what he's "threatening" Putin with?

Are you kidding me? Biden/EU taxed, sanctioned, and tariff-ed the living bleep out of the Russian economy for coming about 3 years now, Result? Russia's winning. They don't care in fact, they're all but thriving..

" But Jetflag, you hyper politically savy stud, why won't this stop them/bleed them dry and force them to the table with Zelensky?"

Well, conviniently contrived question from an imaginairy person sitting in front of me...

Because Russia has a very big Winny The Pooh-m8 up in Bejing. Who has a massively overblown national production-economy and a desperate need for hydrocarbons not coming via the Gulf.. and who hence..can deliver pretty much all the goods and raw materials Russia itself can't produce and deliver them cheaply.

Good that he's trying to make peace and good that he does in on the first day and all... But for someone like Trump who's well known to go into negotiations unlubed and double fisted.. This is just pathetic to me.

 

[LostLegend]

Trump’s approach to foreign policy is a bit of a strange one.

On one hand his ‘threats’ that he often shouts around are reckless and I think he vastly underestimates Putin.
Say what you will about Putin, but he’s been in power for decades in a country that has always been very politically tumultuous. He’s no fool for sure.

On the other hand, I think he was actually on to something with the Kim family in North Korea.

For the most part, I think the Kim regime crave legitimacy and relief from some of the sanctions.
The Clinton administration got some of the way there in the mid 90’s, but ultimately, when Kim Jong Il took over from his father, he wanted to start up the nuclear program again putting a hold on the agreement which was finally ripped up altogether after 9/11 and the US policy of “not negotiating with terrorists”

It’s not an ideal situation, but doing some sort of deal with Kim Jon Un might be a way of opening up the country up somewhat and at least providing some relief for the people there and easing the tensions somewhat as well.
Trump could be in a good position to do that.

 

[Jetflag]

Trump’s approach to foreign policy is a bit of a strange one.

On one hand his ‘threats’ that he often shouts around are reckless and I think he vastly underestimates Putin.
Say what you will about Putin, but he’s been in power for decades in a country that has always been very politically tumultuous. He’s no fool for sure.

On the other hand, I think he was actually on to something with the Kim family in North Korea.

For the most part, I think the Kim regime crave legitimacy and relief from some of the sanctions.
The Clinton administration got some of the way there in the mid 90’s, but ultimately, when Kim Jong Il took over from his father, he wanted to start up the nuclear program again putting a hold on the agreement which was finally ripped up altogether after 9/11 and the US policy of “not negotiating with terrorists”

It’s not an ideal situation, but doing some sort of deal with Kim Jon Un might be a way of opening up the country up somewhat and at least providing some relief for the people there and easing the tensions somewhat as well.
Trump could be in a good position to do that.

Yeah I liked that about the man’s approach to foreign policy aswell,

basically what he does is go in hard, usually with a threat of bluff, and then negotiate/shake hands etc.

its the stereotypical New York mobster swag basically

“Imma bleed you’s red and feed you to the fishes!…Naah! I’m just jokin’ Jimmy just russlin’ ya feathers a bit.. ere! Sit down haves a cup of coffee… you my friend you…you need protection.. *wink *fingerclick *point”

and it was terribly effective.

- basically all despot countries stayed in their cage
- Abraham accords signed/peace in the middle east
- open talks with impossible dictators etc.

which is why this latest Putin approach annoys me.

its almost…timide

 

[dmgtz96]

Yeah I liked that about the man’s approach to foreign policy aswell,

basically what he does is go in hard, usually with a threat of bluff, and then negotiate/shake hands etc.

its the stereotypical New York mobster swag basically

“Imma bleed you’s red and feed you to the fishes!…Naah! I’m just jokin’ Jimmy just russlin’ ya feathers a bit.. ere! Sit down haves a cup of coffee… you my friend you…you need protection.. *wink *fingerclick *point”

and it was terribly effective.

- basically all despot countries stayed in their cage
- Abraham accords signed/peace in the middle east
- open talks with impossible dictators etc.

which is why this latest Putin approach annoys me.

its almost…timide

He's bffs with Putin, and all the world leaders know by now that Trump is all bark / no bite.

 

[Jetflag]

He's bffs with Putin, and all the world leaders know by now that Trump is all bark / no bite.

He definitely has to bring more to the table then “tarrifs” in case of Ukraine yeah. Or it will be Biden2.0 with Putin simply stalling and conquering hectare by hectare…

 

[dmgtz96]

Trump order could see Pro-Hamas protesters on H1B visas deported

President Trump signed an executive order giving DHS the authority to deport foreign students who support terrorist groups such as Hamas.

san.com

Probably his most based executive order so far. I'm all for it.

 

[Bobby Summa]

I think Elon Musk and Donald Trump should collaborate and make music with AI, maybe even Vladimir Putin would be up for getting involved?

they could try and make trance and put in on trancefix?

we might get a track like….Cotton eye joe!

Gorgeous

 

[Jetflag]

I think Elon Musk and Donald Trump should collaborate and make music with AI, maybe even Vladimir Putin would be up for getting involved?

they could try and make trance and put in on trancefix?

we might get a track like….Cotton eye joe!

Gorgeous

M8, they have entire YT channels with that shit already, and it’s glorious

 

[Anderanao]

Trump order could see Pro-Hamas protesters on H1B visas deported

President Trump signed an executive order giving DHS the authority to deport foreign students who support terrorist groups such as Hamas.

san.com

Probably his most based executive order so far. I'm all for it.

No it's stupid postering. In Europe there have been many instances where different politicians are labelled "hamas supporters, "hamas sympathizers" or "anti-semtic" because they simply shine a light on the apartheid dimensions of Israels policy, or because they outline of peace, talking and understanding. It's nothing more than discrediting to detract from the issue. Israeli brainwashing, it's out of control in the West. Question israel you are anti-semite and terrorist lover. The right-wing and pro-israel drink this up like milk. For any person who lives in the real world, you know that 99% of students are just reacting to what they feel is a genocide.

Netanayahu at one point actually funded Hamas. That's much more Hamas support than any student has demonstrated.

 

[dmgtz96]

No it's stupid postering. In Europe there have been many instances where different politicians are labelled "hamas supporters, "hamas sympathizers"

That's because that's literally what they are.

because they simply shine a light on the apartheid dimensions of Israels policy, or because they outline of peace, talking and understanding. It's nothing more than discrediting to detract from the issue. Israeli brainwashing, it's out of control in the West. Question israel you are anti-semite and terrorist lover. The right-wing and pro-israel drink this up like milk. For any person who lives in the real world, you know that 99% of students are just reacting to what they feel is a genocide.

Nope, that's a cop-out to justify being bigoted against Jews. This is pretty obvious if you're not one of those students, but everyone thinks they're smart and "Pro-Palestinian/nuanced" without accepting the reality that there are only two sides to this conflict (Hamas vs Israel).

Netanayahu at one point actually funded Hamas. That's much more Hamas support than any student has demonstrated.

If there's one thing both camps can agree on, it's that he needs to go

 

[Jetflag]

Hamas is not a pro-Palestinian organisation. They’re just anti-Israel, regardless of how many (innocent) Palestinians, or any one else for that matter, need sacrificing.

 

[Jetflag]

I chuckled

 

[LostLegend]

I chuckled

Sounds like my brother

 

[Bobby Summa]

Whether you believe in this stuff or not.
I’m psychic but usually only for my own life. ( self indulgent or what ). But I have a vague hunch in 41/2 / 5 months something will happen regarding Trump. Might be good , might be a fantastic policy that alters the world. …might not. Could be completely different to that. Just wanted to lay it here.

Now, please carry on reading the actual sensible comments

 

[Jetflag]

I have a vague hunch in 41/2 / 5 months something will happen regarding Trump.

oh you innocent lovely optimist you.

I give it 2 weeks