Master Beat Projekt & Skyraid UK & RollerBabe - Thoughts [Avena Records]

[facade1984]

Oh tell me about it, Armin was gonna hand me half of armada in stock and a 10 album contract until he found out I was Frysian.

goddarn cheeseheads from the randstad still discriminating us after all that time..

I did a&r for Joof for many years and we were always under strict instructions to keep the poles out of trance so maybe he's right to be super pissed off

 

[facade1984]

Just in case anyone's unsure that last post of mine isn't true. I ain't trying to get cancelled

 

[Avena Records]

And let’s be brutally honest here, because sugarcoating it clearly hasn’t worked. Most of you don’t behave like people who care about music, community, or honest discussion. If I don’t like a track, I skip it and move on simple. But some of you seem addicted to drama. Instead of hitting “next,” you’d rather rip someone’s work apart just to feed your ego. You don’t care about the effort an artist puts in you care about having an opinion loud enough to get attention.
This whole “#trancefamily” mantra? It’s a joke. A hollow hashtag used like a sticker to cover the toxic reality underneath. In the real world of trance producers, this so-called “family” is full of two-faced attitudes, fake support, and people who smile in public but rip each other apart in private.
There’s constant jealousy, pointless nitpicking, and endless whining. It’s pathetic. Instead of building something together, you tear down anything that doesn’t fit your tiny, self-appointed standards. You create elitist little circles where you worship a few chosen names and trash everyone else, pretending you’re the guardians of “real trance.”
And the funniest part? You truly think you know everything. You act like your taste is law, like your opinion is the ultimate truth. That arrogance is exactly what’s killing the spirit of the scene not newcomers, not experimentation, not new styles. It’s you. Your attitude. Your negativity. Your obsession with judging instead of listening.

 

[Narel]

And let’s be brutally honest here, because sugarcoating it clearly hasn’t worked. Most of you don’t behave like people who care about music, community, or honest discussion. If I don’t like a track, I skip it and move on simple. But some of you seem addicted to drama. Instead of hitting “next,” you’d rather rip someone’s work apart just to feed your ego. You don’t care about the effort an artist puts in you care about having an opinion loud enough to get attention.
This whole “#trancefamily” mantra? It’s a joke. A hollow hashtag used like a sticker to cover the toxic reality underneath. In the real world of trance producers, this so-called “family” is full of two-faced attitudes, fake support, and people who smile in public but rip each other apart in private.
There’s constant jealousy, pointless nitpicking, and endless whining. It’s pathetic. Instead of building something together, you tear down anything that doesn’t fit your tiny, self-appointed standards. You create elitist little circles where you worship a few chosen names and trash everyone else, pretending you’re the guardians of “real trance.”
And the funniest part? You truly think you know everything. You act like your taste is law, like your opinion is the ultimate truth. That arrogance is exactly what’s killing the spirit of the scene not newcomers, not experimentation, not new styles. It’s you. Your attitude. Your negativity. Your obsession with judging instead of listening.

Nah mate, we ripped into you as you’re a narcissistic c&nt. The comments on the track have actually been quite positive.
Are you so deluded that you don’t realise you just described your posts on here?

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

some of you seem addicted to drama

 

[facade1984]

And let’s be brutally honest here, because sugarcoating it clearly hasn’t worked. Most of you don’t behave like people who care about music, community, or honest discussion. If I don’t like a track, I skip it and move on simple. But some of you seem addicted to drama. Instead of hitting “next,” you’d rather rip someone’s work apart just to feed your ego. You don’t care about the effort an artist puts in you care about having an opinion loud enough to get attention.
This whole “#trancefamily” mantra? It’s a joke. A hollow hashtag used like a sticker to cover the toxic reality underneath. In the real world of trance producers, this so-called “family” is full of two-faced attitudes, fake support, and people who smile in public but rip each other apart in private.
There’s constant jealousy, pointless nitpicking, and endless whining. It’s pathetic. Instead of building something together, you tear down anything that doesn’t fit your tiny, self-appointed standards. You create elitist little circles where you worship a few chosen names and trash everyone else, pretending you’re the guardians of “real trance.”
And the funniest part? You truly think you know everything. You act like your taste is law, like your opinion is the ultimate truth. That arrogance is exactly what’s killing the spirit of the scene not newcomers, not experimentation, not new styles. It’s you. Your attitude. Your negativity. Your obsession with judging instead of listening.

I've fucked around with you a bit but now I'm gonna give you a reality check. Do you honestly believe that your behaviour has nothing to do with it? Because if not I dunno what to tell you. The fact that you're now completely on the back foot appealing to a lack of unity smacks of a narcissist who has failed to get a rise of of everyone and is now just crying and playing the victim. I'm sorry this and the other post you did didn't go the way you thought it would but that's because rather than just taking it on the chin like a grown up you started insulting everyone. You're a shit person and you need to grow the fuck up. Your releases on a bunch of labels don't make you important and we're not impressed

Also nobody's been two faced here, we've all been very upfront about how much you suck

 

[Avena Records]

Nah mate, we ripped into you as you’re a narcissistic c&nt. The comments on the track have actually been quite positive.
Are you so deluded that you don’t realise you just described your posts on here?

You don't know me personally.I'm just posting links to the new releases. You started and your friends a storm with the last song and the critique.I will not allow insults to my artists with my label and senseless criticism.Trance is currently dying.My mission is to help trance producers.Not all songs are perfect on every label.I reject songs every day and producers are angry.I know what is good and what is bad.

 

[facade1984]

And don't do that "oh I'm gonna save trance" bullshit either. Fuckin cornball. You're not the good guy in all this

 

[Narel]

You don't know me personally.I'm just posting links to the new releases. You started and your friends a storm with the last song and the critique.I will not allow insults to my artists with my label and senseless criticism.Trance is currently dying.My mission is to help trance producers.Not all songs are perfect on every label.I reject songs every day and producers are angry.I know what is good and what is bad.

You don’t get it do you?! YOU kicked off on here. And since then you’ve berated everyone and attacked them personally and artistically. Now you’re acting the victim?!!!
I don’t want to know you personally, as this online persona is a twat.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

#trancefamilytherapy iykwim

 

[Avena Records]

You don’t get it do you?! YOU kicked off on here. And since then you’ve berated everyone and attacked them personally and artistically. Now you’re acting the victim?!!!
I don’t want to know you personally, as this online persona is a twat.

No.You simply deserve it.You are toxic people.

 

[facade1984]

I was raised by a narcissist mother and it's always alarming to me whenever I encounter one in the wild because they all share most of the exact same traits and show the same behaviours. Look up the DARVO technique and you can see it on display here

Right fuck y'all I'm going to sleep

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

it gets schizophrenic at this point, isn't it?

 

[Avena Records]

I've fucked around with you a bit but now I'm gonna give you a reality check. Do you honestly believe that your behaviour has nothing to do with it? Because if not I dunno what to tell you. The fact that you're now completely on the back foot appealing to a lack of unity smacks of a narcissist who has failed to get a rise of of everyone and is now just crying and playing the victim. I'm sorry this and the other post you did didn't go the way you thought it would but that's because rather than just taking it on the chin like a grown up you started insulting everyone. You're a shit person and you need to grow the fuck up. Your releases on a bunch of labels don't make you important and we're not impressed

Also nobody's been two faced here, we've all been very upfront about how much you suck

Your arguments are worthless, so stop talking already.Focus on the weekend and music.

 

[facade1984]

Now you're doing DARVO in reverse by pretending to be the calm one

 

[Shivace]

Now you're trying to pass yourself off as a savior of Trance and a rational discussant. But initially, whenever someone said they didn’t like such tracks (just like they did with Armin van Buuren), you would fly into a rage, go on a long rant, and ask them why they hadn’t been signed by Vandit or why they didn’t make their own music—thereby depriving them of the right to criticize your work.
My dearest friend, to judge whether a refrigerator is usable, you don’t need to master refrigeration yourself, refrigeration is the very function a refrigerator is supposed to perform.

 

[Avena Records]

it gets schizophrenic at this point, isn't it?

No, I'm simply a person who tells you the truth, and you really don't like it.Sorry

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

Your arguments are worthless

because? he didn't release on a certain label? or you don't like them? how is that kind of discussion supposed to work

 

[Narel]

No.You simply deserve it.You are toxic people.

GOLD! Good luck with saving trance and all that. I’ve been listening to it since about 1993 when it wasn’t really trance, and the corner of trance you operate in is not its saviour. There is thankfully a healthy underground scene that is held together by producers who care about music not status.

 

[facade1984]

I've released on armada, spinnin, discover, black hole and have tons on Joof. Believe me I am by no means insecure about my body of work

Yeah I know it's not the same as zippyshare but hey I was always a late bloomer