Conservative or liberal (politics)

[Jetflag]

Like a Bluetooth speaker that's been dropped in a pond

Like Clint Eastwood in his 80's after having a sip of helium

 

[facade1984]

 

[cyalataque]

I WANT TO SAY THIS... anyone who identifies with this garbage is retarded...

I'm sorry and I feel sorry for you, but you're far from the true vision of what's happening...


You should know that the left hand is the same as the right hand... why? Because if you look at yourself, they are both part of the same body...

The topic name just changed... Are you right-wing or left-wing retarded?

 

[facade1984]

The fuck

 

[Jetflag]

Are you right-wing or left-wing retarded?

I am libtarianconservatard mind you... do not take my political position in vain with these mono directionals

 

[cyalataque]

I am libtarianconservatard mind you... do not take my political position in vain with these mono directionals

My question for you here is... are you your own boss? Because if you're not your own boss, I seriously doubt that having a political stance will help you in any way... the benefits of following a political stance depend on whether politicians are willing to support you... but really, if we consider what's happening in the world right now and how countries are being ruined... it's worth considering and asking yourself, is having a political stance really worthwhile?

There's no need to go any further and observe what's happening in the United States, England, France, Croatia, Spain, Argentina,Mexico, Chile, Japan, China, India, South Africa, Russia, Ukraine... etc.

Look at what's happening... are you really happy about that?
Tell me, how can you live when you're really just fighting to survive?


I don't have a political stance... There is no political stance to observe that they are simply destroying humanity.

 

[Jetflag]

My question for you here is... are you your own boss?

I am my own boss in terms of:

- My thoughts
- The opinions I hold on matters, with or without peer pressure, and manner in which I express them,
- My actions which I undertake in daily life
- (to a degree) my status, which includes o.a. my financial situation.


That is however not to say that, like you, I am somehow not part of a human tribe/group/nation state, Which has:

- a distinct (set of) culture(s)
- a distinct set of norms and values
- a set of distinct rules
and, probably most importantly to this discussion
- a distinct Hierarchical structure (political system)

The aforementioned former own-ownership points are influenced by, but also ( to degree) exert influence on, the latter. Hence, I find it worthwhile and important to not only express them (either via vote or conversation) but also test them (in debate).

 

[cyalataque]

I am my own boss in terms of:

- My thoughts
- The opinions I hold on matters, with or without peer pressure, and manner in which I express them,
- My actions which I undertake in daily life
- (to a degree) my status, which includes o.a. my financial situation.

Up to that point, I understand perfectly what you're saying.

Now

That is however not to say that, like you, I am somehow not part of a human tribe/group/nation state, Which has:

- a distinct (set of) culture(s)
- a distinct set of norms and values
- a set of distinct rules
and, probably most importantly to this discussion
- a distinct Hierarchical structure (political system)

The aforementioned former own-ownership points are influenced by, but also ( to degree) exert influence on, the latter. Hence, I find it worthwhile and important to not only express them (either via vote or conversation) but also test them (in debate).

If putting a piece of paper in a box changes other people's lives, then it should be prohibited.

Why are they constantly imposing laws that go against people, don't you think? Look at England; nobody can hang an English flag because it offends.. What are politicians doing? What values are you talking about? What representation are you referring to?

Look at the Americans, they have a president who is simply destroying their country's economy.

Where is France's identity?

And Spain's justice?

not to mention the other countries...

I live in a place called "Argentina"... a few days ago a politician here said that "we should bundle up and turn down the heating because the price of gas is going to keep rising..." Now I ask you, what kind of person comes out in the middle of winter and says things like that?

Do you really think they're governing in your name? Do you feel represented by politicians who are busy lining the pockets of large global corporations?

I assume you know who really governs your country, right?
Depending on where you are, these are the same people in China, the USA, the Netherlands, Argentina, Russia, South Africa, England...

They are the same people who make sure you feel represented, so that you are simply kept busy with suffering.

 

[LostLegend]

Look at England; nobody can hang an English flag because it offends..

You need to stop believing everything you read on social media. The World Cup is on. There’s St. Georges flags flying all over the place.

 

[Jetflag]

Up to that point, I understand perfectly what you're saying.

Now


If putting a piece of paper in a box changes other people's lives, then it should be prohibited.

Why are they constantly imposing laws that go against people, don't you think? Look at England; nobody can hang an English flag because it offends.. What are politicians doing? What values are you talking about? What representation are you referring to?

Look at the Americans, they have a president who is simply destroying their country's economy.

Where is France's identity?

And Spain's justice?

not to mention the other countries...

I live in a place called "Argentina"... a few days ago a politician here said that "we should bundle up and turn down the heating because the price of gas is going to keep rising..." Now I ask you, what kind of person comes out in the middle of winter and says things like that?

Do you really think they're governing in your name? Do you feel represented by politicians who are busy lining the pockets of large global corporations?

I assume you know who really governs your country, right?
Depending on where you are, these are the same people in China, the USA, the Netherlands, Argentina, Russia, South Africa, England...

They are the same people who make sure you feel represented, so that you are simply kept busy with suffering.

Interesting…And your solution to it is, pray tell, what?.. then?

- “just don’t be political” and curl up to cry somewhere in a corner?

- Refrain from voting and using the one en-mass tool you can exhort some power over said political hierarchy?

Dunno how about you but even if, as you claim (which to a certain degree I don’t even disagree with).. the cards are indeed not stacked in the common man’s favour..

I’d still rather make it more than less difficult for “them” by engaging in the political process wherever I can.

 

[Progrez]

Also: what is the man doing wrong precisely? He seems to tackle corrupt and corporate gerrymandering in US healthcare, re-asserting rigorous scientific testing standards for vaccines and changing nutritional standards to less carbs/sugar/artificials..

not exactly destructive policies if you ask me..

His views on vaccines
Spreading conspiracies linking autism to Tylenol.

Which one? There have been and are multiple

 

[Progrez]

I think people aren’t ready to admit that the entire western world is fed up with Muslims

Why is that? A lot of shootings happening in America are caused by drug gangs and religions outside of regular immigrants. Sure, there are some exceptions in the UK of course.

 

[Jetflag]

His views on vaccines

his view on vaccines are that they should be safe/rigorously checked before companies put them on the market, and he has on multible occasion described himself as not anti-vaccine, but pro safety....


would you rather the Pharmaceutical industry just "followed the profits" instead? because we've seen what happend with things like oxycontin and government gerrymandering in the past.

Spreading conspiracies linking autism to Tylenol.

no... He advice pregnant women specifically to avoid Tylenol unless " absolutely necessary" due to potential association, because recent observational studies have been released linking autism to said pain medication, which they have.

he has also repeatedly stated the evidence is suggestive and not suffecient to say it definitly causes autism, following the scientific standard...

Its not a conspiracy theory..its a new set of research that, just like its contra claims, has simply not passed through the science mill into mainstream practice yet. and hence best safe then sorry...especially given the plethora of other painkiller methods, palliative or otherwise (speaking from current experience here) one can take (in prescribed dosage) during pregnancy.

 

[Jetflag]

Why is that?

because out of the big 5 (Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judeaism and Islam) Islam is by far the most anti-western/ Anti-secularist, not just in doctrine but also in muslim-majority contexts.

 

[facade1984]

Hurr de durr I'm a enlightened centrist I stand for nothing and I'm a exemplary human

 

[Progrez]

his view on vaccines are that they should be safe/rigorously checked before companies put them on the market, and he has on multible occasion described himself as not anti-vaccine, but pro safety....


would you rather the Pharmaceutical industry just "followed the profits" instead? because we've seen what happend with things like oxycontin and government gerrymandering in the past.



no... He advice pregnant women specifically to avoid Tylenol unless " absolutely necessary" due to potential association, because recent observational studies have been released linking autism to said pain medication, which they have.

he has also repeatedly stated the evidence is suggestive and not suffecient to say it definitly causes autism, following the scientific standard...

Its not a conspiracy theory..its a new set of research that, just like its contra claims, has simply not passed through the science mill into mainstream practice yet. and hence best safe then sorry...especially given the plethora of other painkiller methods, palliative or otherwise (speaking from current experience here) one can take (in prescribed dosage) during pregnancy.

I think that's an advice that most pregnant women have but that doesn't explain why autism is being caused and it's not a disease. It's a disability I don't know why he can get it through his head? He is stupid that he thinks people with Autism can't date, or contribute towards to the world. I am living proof I see it on a daily basis and speak to them and see their progress too and many others with disability and some I have to give them the bad news which is people with Alzheimer.

RFK Jr Insists Cause of Autism 'Epidemic' in Study Update

During a news conference on autism on Wednesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that “genes do not cause epidemics” and that ...

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[Jetflag]

I think that's an advice that most pregnant women have but that doesn't explain why autism is being caused and it's not a disease. It's a disability I don't know why he can get it through his head? He is stupid that he thinks people with Autism can't date, or contribute towards to the world. I am living proof I see it on a daily basis and speak to them and see their progress too and many others with disability and some I have to give them the bad news which is people with Alzheimer.

RFK Jr Insists Cause of Autism 'Epidemic' in Study Update

During a news conference on autism on Wednesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that “genes do not cause epidemics” and that ...

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No.



There’s 2 (or 3 if you count diagnosis) camps when it comes to autism and why.

• genetical (which doesn’t explain the sudden rise/ uptick)
• Environmental (for which there isn’t sufficient empirical material, yet)

The “consensus”. (If you can even speak of that) is somewhere in between.



RFK is in camp 2, mainly because like said: diagnosis criteria and genetics simply aren’t sufficient to explain the contextual rise.



RFK views Autism like an environmentally acquired disability by which genetics play a role instead of the other way around, (which isn’t the same as a disease mind you). And as for dating, frequently praised Musk who’s like the most high functioning aspergers on the planet and he’s had like what…20 super model baby mommas?


Autism can however be a disability in people’s daily lives, and both you ánd me are proof of that also. Hence, he’s trying to find out/ tackle what is causing the rise of it. Which is a noble cause, despite left-leaning Youtube rage-baiters (from camp 1) who will screech and strawman if he so much as farts… and that you seem to be, sorry to conclude, drawing your information from. (And taking it rather personal)

 

[Progrez]

No.



There’s 2 (or 3 if you count diagnosis) camps when it comes to autism and why.

• genetical (which doesn’t explain the sudden rise/ uptick)
• Environmental (for which there isn’t sufficient empirical material, yet)

The “consensus”. (If you can even speak of that) is somewhere in between.



RFK is in camp 2, mainly because like said: diagnosis criteria and genetics simply aren’t sufficient to explain the contextual rise.



RFK views Autism like an environmentally acquired disability by which genetics play a role instead of the other way around, (which isn’t the same as a disease mind you). And as for dating, frequently praised Musk who’s like the most high functioning aspergers on the planet and he’s had like what…20 super model baby mommas?


Autism can however be a disability in people’s daily lives, and both you ánd me are proof of that also. Hence, he’s trying to find out/ tackle what is causing the rise of it. Which is a noble cause, despite left-leaning Youtube rage-baiters (from camp 1) who will screech and strawman if he so much as farts… and that you seem to be, sorry to conclude, drawing your information from. (And taking it rather personal)

Have you studied science before Jetflag just curious to know?

Autism is a disability because it effects musculoskeletal, they fatigue quite easily, they are not able to plan and have trouble with executive functioning skills and they like predictability and routine as well. He is also against fluoride in water and there is a lot disinformation out there.

Genetics can be influenced based on diet not just a vaccine. How many people eat processed food with plastics in them? Almost the entire population.

 

[Jetflag]

Have you studied science before Jetflag just curious to know?

Autism is a disability because it effects musculoskeletal, they fatigue quite easily, they are not able to plan and have trouble with executive functioning skills and they like predictability and routine as well.
He is also against fluoride in water and there is a lot disinformation out there.

Genetics can be influenced based on diet not just a vaccine. How many people eat processed food with plastics in them? Almost the entire population.

Oh yes. As a fellow autist the how and why are of particular interest to me.

it cán affect the musculoskeletal as a developmental disability yes. But given the wide definition it’s not at all the standard. Autism is mainly how your brain is wired and the effect from that.

There’s a common lie going around that RFK as health secretary is, or does anything “against” current treatment of autism..or muh holy vaccines for that matter..which simply isn’t true..

his main focus seems to be, like said, try and identify/reduce plausible contextual factors like the aforementioned chemical addditions in drinking water/ food (and only at/in those that are of convinience instead of necessity) and ensuring “big pharma” doesn’t dictate the rules, but the science/government does.

 

[cyalataque]

You need to stop believing everything you read on social media. The World Cup is on. There’s St. Georges flags flying all over the place.

The World Cup has started... Do you know what's happening while the World Cup is going on? Did you hear that children are being kidnapped in Venezuela?
Don't you see what's happening in the skies over Europe?

- “just don’t be political” and curl up to cry somewhere in a corner?

I'm not saying you should do nothing, but you just have to invert the pyramid... you can't just stand there watching food get more expensive every day, watching you not be able to afford property...

- Refrain from voting and using the one en-mass tool you can exhort some power over said political hierarchy?

Tell me, did you see the news from Colombia recently? Something happened that really caught my attention and that's happening in every country in the world, it's just not getting coverage. Brazil also reported this.

Do you really think your vote is valid?

Dunno how about you but even if, as you claim (which to a certain degree I don’t even disagree with).. the cards are indeed not stacked in the common man’s favour..

I’d still rather make it more than less difficult for “them” by engaging in the political process wherever I can.

Believe me, you're involved in something truly fictional.