DJ Recharge - Bulgaria (Part 3) (Lale Li Si, Zumbul Li Si) [Breakbeat]

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I wanted to do part 3 for a long time, I had a demo for uplifting version, but I scrapped most of it and went for another breakbeat version like part 1. Same hi hats sample too.

Probably almost done, as always I will do a bit more work in the next 2/3 days after a few listens.

I really like the bassline. One of the most simple and yet elegant bassline I ever made.

In some parts I took very experimental approach, but It all came nice at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fdj-recharge-bulgaria-part-3-lale-li-si-zumbul-li-si
https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fsets%2Fdj-recharge-bulgaria
 
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Love the vocals! Would've loved to hear other Bulgarian sounds and motifs here; it's a pretty standard breakbeat track without the vocals. The piano I'm not sure of. But sounds good overall, nice work!

Oh and I'm not sure if you know but you haven't included the link to your track.
 
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Part3 is a lot better than the original, but...
- Sounds like the vocal, pads, and piano are disagreeing each other. Some notes are off key.
- Kick & break loops interactions could be improved to make the rhythm flow more smoothly. I feel there's slight timing issue (some kick hits too early or late).
- Bassline is nice, but I think it could benefit from a bit of cut on sub freq area.
 
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Sorry to be blunt but this just sounds totally off. And it seems you have a warped perception that you tracks are way better/proffessional sounding than they are, because one has to be somewhat tonedeaf to think these sound good. Im not saying this to be rude honestly.
 
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I wanted to do part 3 for a long time, I had a demo for uplifting version, but I scrapped most of it and went for another breakbeat version like part 1. Same hi hats sample too.

Probably almost done, as always I will do a bit more work in the next 2/3 days after a few listens.

I really like the bassline. One of the most simple and yet elegant bassline I ever made.

In some parts I took very experimental approach, but It all came nice at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fdj-recharge-bulgaria-part-3-lale-li-si-zumbul-li-si
https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fsets%2Fdj-recharge-bulgaria
I love most if not all the individual elements honestly. The vox. the breakbeat drums, the atmos.

but as a whole I agree its waay too chaotic/ inconsistent. Wouldn't mind remixing this honestly, there's defo potential
 

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Sorry to be blunt but this just sounds totally off. And it seems you have a warped perception that you tracks are way better/proffessional sounding than they are, because one has to be somewhat tonedeaf to think these sound good. Im not saying this to be rude honestly.
You might not, but there must've been a better way to say this though.
I am pretty sure I am tone deaf btw. I believe certain frequencies are just gone from my hearing which is unfortunate. But it's hard to believe that there is parts of key because I use write in key function, some part might sound inconsistent, but unless the software is lying to me everything is on key.
 

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So I cut a lot more frequencies on the bass.

I moved some kicks, not sure if its better or worst.

I changed the piano from acoustic to grand and lowered it an octave. Some parts sounds not so great, but they are not off key. Even if it doesn't sound great I like the piano since I used a midi keyboard and play in key and played it myself, just quantizing it after. There is definitely a few notes that doesn't sound good I might redo the whole melody.

@jetflag I will love to send you the stems once I am done with it.

Edit: I am going for a different piano, but still an octave lower and with lower volume, sounds abit better and removing a note from the bassline to compliment that swing that's going on.
 
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I just did a complete remaster of the songs and a few small changes in the structure. I might do another version, but this one I like just the way it is. Not sure if I am going to add a few more small changes, but this is much closer to what I envisioned.

Same link i uploaded over the old version
https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fdj-recharge-bulgaria-part-3-lale-li-si-zumbul-li-si
Agree that the vocals sound out of tune, maybe try transposing them a few semitones up or down to see if you can get them into tune with the rest of the track?

Really like the drums and bassline in there though!

And it seems you have a warped perception that you tracks are way better/proffessional sounding than they are, because one has to be somewhat tonedeaf to think these sound good.
Many people post music on this forum looking for advice and pointers on how to improve and learn. Not everyone here is posting music under the impression that they are the finished article themselves as a musician or producer. Surely it's better to be a bit more constructive with your criticism instead of just tearing someone down? 😕
 

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Currently tinkering on a little remix of this. The problem with the vox is not that they’re out of tune.

the problem is there’s way too much tune/ tones in a single (long) chant. Making virtually impossible to fit a chord or note structure underneath.

solution: chop individual small parts up and pile it all together.. then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs I mean reverb & compress them
 
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Currently tinkering on a little remix of this. The problem with the vox is not that they’re out of tune.

the problem is there’s way too much tune/ tones in a single (long) chant. Making virtually impossible to fit a chord or note structure underneath.

solution: chop individual small parts up and pile it all together.. then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs I mean reverb & compress them
Sound like they're in that Hungarian scale that they use for all the soundtracks for films set in the middle east.
It's a bit of a nightmare to work with as the chords in each key are all over the place haha
 
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Sound like they're in that Hungarian scale that they use for all the soundtracks for films set in the middle east.
It's a bit of a nightmare to work with as the chords in each key are all over the place haha
Currently tinkering on a little remix of this. The problem with the vox is not that they’re out of tune.

the problem is there’s way too much tune/ tones in a single (long) chant. Making virtually impossible to fit a chord or note structure underneath.

solution: chop individual small parts up and pile it all together.. then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs I mean reverb & compress them
Remember this one


Robert Nickson said the original vocal were impossible to work with and he had to rerecord the vocals, The thing about Bulgarian folklore is that the vocals are very strong and rich.

So out of 3 songs I made with Bulgarian folklore two are on breakbeat and the one that is actually trance you almost can't here the vocals as I used the vocals like vox with heavy sidechain/gate.

I really love how a remaster and clearing things a bit made the same song almost unrecognisable.

I've noticed I always have problems with the final master when the song is fresh.
 
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the vocals are very strong and rich.
yes, and the individual notes of each chant are all over the place. so you (and I) have two options not to make it sound false with the other elements and those are

1: chop the vocals up into usable bits that sync with the chord progression(s)
2: what nickson (or airwave) does. only use the vocal samples in bits where there's a single note/chord present. so no chord or bassline progressions.

anything other will sound messy/false. no matter how technical you get with sidechains/gates/eq's/compressions and other non-melodic interferences.

:)
 
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I will always admire you for your stubbornness. when it comes to your songs, I have mixed feelings, there is so much emotion and at the same time basically goo. I think it's time for you to focus on quality, I'm sure something good will come out of it
 
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I got rid of groovy bassline and had to face that both the melody and the bassline didn't work. I went with simpler version with just the sub bass and a completely new melody, added more atmospheric pad sounds. I also added arp-ed drums, something I haven't done in a while. They are in the background adding extra flavour to the drums, but I reserved them for the second part.

Replaced the old song completely - in with new, out with the old I say:

https://soundcloud.com/lq5vxcb1rzbn%2Fdj-recharge-bulgaria-part-3-lale-li-si-zumbul-li-si