Magdelayna
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Yeah,you cant make decent sounding,well mastered music using just cheap earbuds...you need at least decent headphones and monitors. Im talking in the £200-500 range.
All cool! Your opinion isnt wrong but if you advise people to get good monitors please also tell them they need to treat their room. Otherwise this will make no sense what so ever. Good headhones would be a better choice then and maybe Sonarworks Reference ID too. Sony MDR-7506 would be a valid (not too expensive, arround 100 bucks) choice for example but this guy already has DT990s, should also work.I’m sorry but I find this very bad advise. If you could mix professionally with 30 euro earplugs, why would professional mastering engineers spend 1000+ on a monitor?
I made music on crap monitors before. You think it sounds good but it’s weak, or way too bass heavy. Thin, flat.
If you want to produce, the number one equipment advice for me is: good monitors. Mid-price-range is enough for us. Don’t have to be 1.000 of course.
All cool! Your opinion isnt wrong but if you advise people to get good monitors please also tell them they need to treat their room. Otherwise this will make no sense what so ever. Good headhones would be a better choice then and maybe Sonarworks Reference ID too. Sony MDR-7506 would be a valid (not too expensive, arround 100 bucks) choice for example but this guy already has DT990s, should also work.
I was not talking about mastering, thats a whole other story. You will most likely use a service anyways.
Grammy winning Engineers out there often mix on NS10s which sound like absolute poop, or even on auratones and there is a thing about it. Im talking Bob Clearmountain, Chris Lord Alge, Jesse Ray Ernstner etc.
I recently did send a mix to Beau Thomas from TenEightSeven Mastering. This guy is very well known and experienced (especially in the british DNB scene). Got my master returned and got told it "sounds great". I mixed the track on a gaming headset and checked it on DT770s, my phone etc. for translation. This works as long as you know your shit.
This is just my opinion but I was always a bit different when it comes to this stuff, thats nothing new. I mixed stuff in train rides and it still got accepted by labels and even landed on CD. My approach cant be too wrong and if someone doesnt have a lot of money for fancy monitors this should never stop him from working on his music and mixing because thats the actual bad advice.
@Bobby Summa Did you forget your text?
The whole Yamaha NS10 topic is a big big rabbit hole. There are hundred different opinions out there on why those things work, or not. A lot of people hate them, a lot of people love them. I count myself to the lovers and I also use them. I heard them first in a proffesional recording studio and since then never really could say goodbye to those ...Ah yes, tried to highlight relevant text, failed and decided to watch the football lol. Im so good at messing up forums im probably going to be banned lol.
I was going to ask @Magnevi . ( atleast i can tag people lol)
Do engineers use yamaha ns10s because although they don’t sound great, do they have a completely neutral response. Hearing all frequencies balanced and accurate but not presented in an exciting way?
Im guessing that must be why.
Thats acctually great, I dig this.Ok this might help a lot. Will just released a tutorial showing how to recreate some of the most iconic synth from some of the most iconic trance songs.
Edit: My bad is an old tutorial that I somehow missed. Still some amazing stuff here:
Treating your room will help, but saying it 'makes no sense not to' is going to the extreme.if you advise people to get good monitors please also tell them they need to treat their room. Otherwise this will make no sense what so ever.
You could also place yourself at a big disatvantage when mixing in an unoptimized room. All frequencies will sound way different then they acctually should. So no matter how you do it, you do it wrong.While you can point out examples of producers who have made great tracks using budget playback devices, it's important to remember that if you can afford to get yourself some proper production level headphones/monitors then you should.
It is possible to create a good mix using crappy speakers, that doesn't mean you should. You are placing yourself at a disadvantage.
Kinda like trying to beat Dark Souls on a guitar hero controller, if you get a kick out of it, then fine. Otherwise why put yourself at such a needless disadvantage if you can afford to upgrade?
Thank you for pointing this out. I also thought it was totally OK! You know Barry? I got a release coming on ARR pretty soonSpatialsound-i have listened to first track and second track,found that they are really ok.
Where you do see a problem? In a choosing of sounds? If yes then go to Dune cm/be first.
It is the same as 2000nd synths. Tal Mod also is for me sounding like Jp 8000.
Fxes:Tal delays, Orilriver reverb,Molot,Loudmax, Limiter nr 6, Bassline from tone fx, Span, Luftkus.
Native stuff for chorus etc,
If you look more about consistency , premaster-you can look for mastering it on some label.
Talk for example with Barry from Hyper reality records.