Perpetual Light- Bobby Summa (2 /9/24 136bpm 10 mins)

Bobby Summa

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(please see updated versions appearing in this section, will leave past WIP versions here too as some have commented enjoying seeing progress within the production process)

Been at this remake of my 4yr old track for months. Gently stress freely taking my time. Really enjoying the experimental things I’m putting into it. Features my voice.
It’s a 6 min WIP

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- 20 / 07 / 24.
Now it’s 8mins 40seconds. Couple of subtle note changes in the intro. Changed a few sounds throughout ( got rid of whistle sound on break melidy replaced with another, but could bring it back as not sure which is better) , modified others, and added a few new melodic elements. Cleaned up the bass sound. Added more of my own vocal with different fx in the 1st break. ( maybe repeated too much). . Changed arrangement slightly. It’s got as far as the start of the second break. Looks like it could turn out a 12 minute track when complete.
Feedback most welcome especially on structure.


UPDATE: 23 / 07/ 24
12 mins now .
Does this sound like a complete track yet? Il add a few energy raisers , little trinkets to introduce other sounds. So currently is still a bit straight. But my concern is, the last section / break. It has a slight variation in vibe and may sound like a remix of the main element of the tracks first sections rather than part of it.
Also I altered the LFO on the kick. Not sure if it sounds better or worse.

thoughts guys?
 
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Typing this as I have a listen on a somewhat crappy sound system at work, but I like it so far. Will have a proper listen when I'm off work and back home.
Got a lot of catching up to do on TF anyway besides lurking around :oops:

But anyway, I like the track so far and the only little thing I can point out right now is that at the end the melody abruptly stops, but it's a WIP so my guess is that will change 😉
 
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Love it, the 20 second silence after the intro to the drumroll is a bit odd though.

like: what is it you’re trying to achieve there/ with that?
 
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Bobby Summa

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Love it, the 20 second silence after the intro to the drumroll is a bit odd though.

like: what is it you’re trying to achieve there/ with that?
It’s kind of an attempt for a play in calm / intense/ calm, then the Storm. But I do see what you mean. Maybe I haven’t pulled it of right yet or perhaps it’s not the right idea for a trance track.
Glad you like it so far tho dude. 🙂
 

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Hey, I don't quite understand the idea of progressive chill trance (different state of mind ^^), so don't take this too personally. I wanted to mention the amazing sounds you used; there's a lot happening in the highs and mids, but nothing clashes. If I had to nitpick, the hi-hat that comes in at 3:27 stands out from the rest; it sounds empty and too quiet, though this effect disappears later in the mix—it seems like you're automating the volume. Interesting melody and overall concept, just a nice track.
 
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Bobby Summa

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Hey, I don't quite understand the idea of progressive chill trance (different state of mind ^^), so don't take this too personally. I wanted to mention the amazing sounds you used; there's a lot happening in the highs and mids, but nothing clashes. If I had to nitpick, the hi-hat that comes in at 3:27 stands out from the rest; it sounds empty and too quiet, though this effect disappears later in the mix—it seems like you're automating the volume. Interesting melody and overall concept, just a nice track.
Cool man, thanks. I will examine the bits you mean.
Incidentally, wasn’t sure if you meant not enough bass, but I do find putting in bass hard on some tracks. I think il get a mate to eq it.
 

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WOW 12 minutes, you are my kind of producer! I am 6 min in your last version and I am loving every second of it
 
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Finally had a proper listen and I must say this track suits the current weather over here...nice and warm.

I like the variety throughout the track. The silence in the intro is a bit strange but for me its a moment that grabs my attention.

I also like the kick it's nice and tight.

As always great work bro 👊🏻👍🏻
 
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Bobby Summa

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Finally had a proper listen and I must say this track suits the current weather over here...nice and warm.

I like the variety throughout the track. The silence in the intro is a bit strange but for me its a moment that grabs my attention.

I also like the kick it's nice and tight.

As always great work bro 👊🏻👍🏻
Cheers man. As you and @Jetflag have pointed it out I’m going to try removing the silence and see what it’s like. I’m not sure about the last break ( I think it’s called break ? ), the final long section. I’m wandering if the current energy flow there doesn't sync with the rest of the track? ( I could be wrong) Cheers
 

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Cheers man. As you and @Jetflag have pointed it out I’m going to try removing the silence and see what it’s like. I’m not sure about the last break ( I think it’s called break ? ), the final long section. I’m wandering if the current energy flow there doesn't sync with the rest of the track? ( I could be wrong) Cheers
Will check when you made the updates brother
 
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Bobby Summa

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Done some changes. ( less silent gaps ) Levels need sorting (esp melody) but I like how the energy builds in first main break now ( bit of an energy rush in one area I think 🙂🙂) Got to develop last break etc and do an outro / ending. . Getting happier with this now!

 

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also i had to stick a mastering plug on it for now to make levels ok for listening
Take a listen to the section near 4:30. For me it's not very listenable, lots of clashing between frequencies. Earlier versions were a bit more pleasant on the ears (as your works often are).
 
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Take a listen to the section near 4:30. For me it's not very listenable, lots of clashing between frequencies. Earlier versions were a bit more pleasant on the ears (as your works often are).
Yes. I felt this during the track. Will look into fixing this. I feel it is more bass frequencies clashing. Might be the master plugin doing it to compensate something ( ideally shouldn’t have used it but other levels were quite wrong without it). …..Scrap that. Listening again, it’s an issue with the lead sounds. Too much reverb by layering 4 sounds. Maybe il completely redo the sound and just ‘attempt’ to use 1 ‘Blow your mind’ type sound. ( maybe from my hardware synths to make it more present) No swirling multi layers of reverb. This often causes issues but I try to always experiment and try reaching for that different sound. Often futile though lol. Maybe il go for a sharper thicker sound to eliminate need for so much wavering reverb .

I hope you like the feel of the track tho ( and possibly structure on the latest from 3rd September) 🙂. If you didn’t hear the 3rd September version. No need to. Il try get everything fixed before posting another version. ( 3rd sept version just has main melody added in 2nd break)
 
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