Remix culture and current obsession with recycling older songs

Gijs

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I recently came across Roman Messer's remix of Message In A Bottle by The Police on BeatPort, which reminded me of this video by YouTuber Solar Sands:



The video is mostly focused on the film industry and the effects of sequels, remakes and the use of CGI to feature actors who have passed away in them. Although he doesn't necessarily talk about music, I've noticed that the mainstream music industry has been similarly recycling and rehashing older songs more and more lately. Thanks to artists releasing these remakes under their own name, very little people learn about the original version of a song if they're not told it's a remake (which is pretty much bound to happen on sites like Spotify, which often do not feature a desciption of the song like BeatPort or Bandcamp do for example).

Regardless of whether they state it's a remix or not, 99.9% of the time the song either A) is just an uninspired rework of the melody which presents very little to no new or unique ideas or B) samples the source in such a way that you could replace said sample with something entirely different and you'd get a final product that is sonically identical. In both cases, the remix does not provide any justification for its own existence or why the source should be remade in the first place.

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This is the current Trance Top 10 on BeatPort as of writing. I find it very disappointing to see that only 2 out of these 10 tracks are original, with the rest being either explicit or implicit remakes of songs that are at least 15 years old (25 if you omit Sun in the Winter) which fall into one of the two categories I've mentioned above. The main Top 100 isn't all that different either, with most of them being rehashes of house, disco or soul tracks from the 90's or 80's. The fact that these remakes are so popular makes it hard for me to ignore them and seeing artists I like such as Armin van Buuren and Oliver Heldens (who are perfectly capable of making original tracks of their own) participate in this trend is incredibly saddening to me.

I know that this is an issue that has been present for a much longer time than just last year. It's not hard to see why it's so popular either considering things such as nostalgia, the impact of the internet and streaming services on the music industry and how the music industry itself used to be more experimental in nature in the 20th century, when problems surrounding class and ethnicity were a lot bigger than they are now. This year however, I've seen it growing more and more up to a point where I now automatically assume every single new song released by a mainstream artist to be a remake until proven otherwise.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
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Julian Del Agranda

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Nostalgia sells a lot. I guess the world is simply... sucky... for everyone. Social media kills everyone's joy, politics are more dividing than ever, life is extremely expensive (how will youth ever get an own house), etc. I bet this all helps 'nostalgia' to be a bigger factor than ever.

As long as the average music listener doesn't care, this will be your music scene. Remixing itself isn't new at all. It also happened in the 90's and 00's. Although I feel like back then, it was usually old music transformed into a new genre. Old pop into a club banger. Nowadays it's a known club classic, turned into a dance song... which doesn't make much sense (except for the easy money).

It's very tiring. But.... my advice: don't look at it. It will only make you depressed. Quickly hit that X button in the corner of your screen. Put on a song you like. And celebrate it. Whether you are actually dancing in your room, nodding your head like a maniac while sitting in front of the computer, or sitting completely still... it's all fine. :D

Show your friends your favorite music, maybe post it here on Trancefix. That's it.
 

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Nostalgia sells a lot. I guess the world is simply... sucky... for everyone. Social media kills everyone's joy, politics are more dividing than ever, life is extremely expensive (how will youth ever get an own house), etc. I bet this all helps 'nostalgia' to be a bigger factor than ever.

As long as the average music listener doesn't care, this will be your music scene. Remixing itself isn't new at all. It also happened in the 90's and 00's. Although I feel like back then, it was usually old music transformed into a new genre. Old pop into a club banger. Nowadays it's a known club classic, turned into a dance song... which doesn't make much sense (except for the easy money).

It's very tiring. But.... my advice: don't look at it. It will only make you depressed. Quickly hit that X button in the corner of your screen. Put on a song you like. And celebrate it. Whether you are actually dancing in your room, nodding your head like a maniac while sitting in front of the computer, or sitting completely still... it's all fine. :D

Show your friends your favorite music, maybe post it here on Trancefix. That's it.
Its not just nostalgia, remixes are popular in every music style, but... modern trance just isn't memorable. How many songs you can name from the last 15 years and how would they compare to classics for example like Southern Sun, Lethal Industry, Silence, 9pm or some early Chicane, BT, Ferry Corsten, AVB, A&B stuff.
 

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It's very tiring. But.... my advice: don't look at it. It will only make you depressed. Quickly hit that X button in the corner of your screen. Put on a song you like. And celebrate it. Whether you are actually dancing in your room, nodding your head like a maniac while sitting in front of the computer, or sitting completely still... it's all fine. :D
I absolutely get your point and it's good advice, but it's become pretty much unavoidable specifically for me as someone who listens to just more than trance. I've seen remakes like these appear in the UK dubstep and garage scenes recently (some decent, others just as forgettable as the rest of them) and I can confirm it's incredibly tiring when I just want to find good music that isn't derived from better music. 😞

there's a silver lining to all of it. The original melody/theme/song will probably never be forgotten because of all its constant reincarnations.
The original melody might never be forgotten but the way I see it, the original creator and the ideas and context they've worked that melody into will be. Classical melodies written by artists such as Mozart are very recognisable and have long been seen as a symbol of high class, despite the fact that Mozart wrote those compositions with the goal of rejecting the elite and improving the negative image people had of composers at the time (YouTuber Tantacrul released a very interesting video about that exact topic if you'd like to know more).
 
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In certain cases, the overall follower number of labels and artists alike has grown considerably, so you could argue that there's a lot more visibility compared to years ago. That aside, this thing you speak of was happening 10 years ago too, and before that. You don't even have to look far.

Take say, Oakenfold's Cafe Del Mar. Yes Harald is credited in the fine print, but if you just don't know about the original Energy 52 track, you'd think it was Paul's work. You could chuck in here straight up uncredited melody ripoffs too, like 1999's The Fade compared to the much later 2012 Askew remix of Stresstest.

Then you have stuff like Symbols and the 2013 remix from Will Atkinson, in which case the remix is more obviously credited. Same with Riders on the Storm and that rather popular rework.

It doesn't even have to be another person doing the rework. Take 9PM that was mentioned above by @Recharge .

Its original club mix, essentially the German version of the track (that was also played in a number of other countries), straight up differs from Ministry of Sound's UK version - credited as such -, which is actually the Sequential One Remix. And yes, ATB was part of Sequential One when this was released. Hell, Andre even reworked 9PM again in 2009/2010 - released as 9PM Reloaded - and then again some more in 2021 - released as Your Love (9PM).

(As a small aside about 9PM, what the hell was even supposed to be happening in that original music video?)

My point is that it's been happening and will continue to do so because it works. Depending on what you think of the originals, you can argue that any (or all) of the later remixes just don't have the same staying power.

On the subject of things being recycled and whatnot, Everything is a Remix would be worth watching. Originally released in 2011, then uploaded to YouTube about five years after that, it's a roughly 40 minute look at this phenomenon you're describing (and not just in music).
 

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How many songs you can name from the last 15 years
Same goes for the whole music industry imo. How many (pop) hits of the last 5 years will be played in 10 years? Almost none I think.

While 90s charts were filled with music that we now consider classics in various genres, music we still play on weddings etc. Zeros has a portion too. Afterwards, not so much.
 
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Its not just nostalgia, remixes are popular in every music style, but... modern trance just isn't memorable. How many songs you can name from the last 15 years and how would they compare to classics for example like Southern Sun, Lethal Industry, Silence, 9pm or some early Chicane, BT, Ferry Corsten, AVB, A&B stuff.

Youre right...and i dont really know why that is. Theres just not many standout memorable melodies made. But it also might have something to do with the modern streaming,non physical age - where everything is so disposable.
 
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On the subject of things being recycled and whatnot, Everything is a Remix would be worth watching. Originally released in 2011, then uploaded to YouTube about five years after that, it's a roughly 40 minute look at this phenomenon you're describing (and not just in music).
Excellent video by the way, way ahead of its time in both quality and substance in my opinion. Love the insights it presents and the fact that these insights are still relevant today.

But it also might have something to do with the modern streaming,non physical age - where everything is so disposable.
I think this has to be the biggest factor at play here when it comes recently released music. While I don't agree with the non-physical age being bad in and of itself (I am very happy with the albums I've bought over the past years via iTunes, Bandcamp and audiophile website Qobuz), streaming services always leave me with a certain emptiness whenever I listen to albums and EPs. I use Spotify free with an adblocker to listen to recently discovered albums and whenever I find one I really like, it actively feels wrong to continue listening to it without technically owning the item myself (and that's excluding my problems with Spotify as a company and the Spotify program itself).

I'm pretty much the only one to do this among my peers, who are content with just listening via any streaming platform. While I do think they're excellent for discovering new music, I fully agree that using them to listen to music has been incredibly detrimental to the mainstream music scene, if not the entire music industry as a whole.
 
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Yes, I'd say streaming services are mostly "to blame".

Their business model requires artists to constantly churn out new releases to stay relevant. Their work often suffers as the result - and modern music feeling mostly "disposable" is directly caused by that.

Making a remix or cover, on the other hand, is much easier... and works extremely well with the recommendation engines. It also appeals to a much broader audience: both because of nostalgia and because the original melody and/or vocals has already proven itself, so they're sure to catch the attention of completely new listeners as well.

I've heard from a relatively well-known producer that it just doesn't feel like it's worth it to make your own tracks from scratch anymore. They never show up in the "end of the year" results and quickly fade into obscurity, while covers continue to accumulate massive streaming numbers even several years after the release. So if music is your only career, you occasionally create something new and original for your own pleasure, but mostly you're forced to do what makes you money.
 
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If you want to end a day on an optimistic note, which for me is a rarity, then you can always conclude that the current music scene has finally tacitly acknowledged that it is incapable of producing a decent piece of music and has reverted to ripping of classic melodies.

I used to agonise a lot over why people make and listen to mediocre music. I finally found peace in a thought that it has always been like that. The majority of people are satisfied with low quality. In times of Mozart or Bach it was a random guy torturing a violin in a local tavern, today it’s pop music or a kid with a computer and a youtube tutorial (please note that musical education is never a requirement).

In times of endless choice and unlimited information a person’s greatest skill is the ability to filter out the noise (pun intended) and calmly accept that most things produced by humanity are garbage :)

And it isn’t a bad thing. I am okay with, even happy, eating simple food and I dislike high cuisine and restaurants. I am looked down upon by foodies. And such is the case with all areas of life, people for whom it is a priority take it to a deeper level, for others it isn’t a priority.

PS I love modern electronic (trance, house, etc) remixes of 80s songs :D
 
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