Simon Patterson - We'll See [2007]

Artist name(s)
Simon Patterson
Release title
We'll See
Label name
Reset Records
Release year
2007

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Simon Patterson's masterpiece.

I'm not even kidding. To me, this is Simon's best work. You can tell that he poured all of his emotions into this track.
I don't know what he was going through at the time. I don't know why it's "just" a b-side, why it never really received DJ support (unlike Bulldozer, which has hundreds of thousands of views), and why its remixes somehow have way more views than the original.

We'll See is the pinnacle of the post-2004 era uplifting trance sound, and is everything that Will Atkinson, Photographer, Sneijder, John O'Callaghan, Bryan Kearney, John Askew, and even Simon Patterson himself tried to replicate (and failed at) in the 2010s.



There aren't many videos of We'll See being played live. In recent years the remixes have gotten more support. The first I could dig up is a super low-quality video from Simon at Trance Energy Future Stage 2009, uploaded 13 years ago:


Tiesto played this track back in the day. Here is a 30-second clip at the ISOS-6 release party:
 
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The melody isnt that original really, is it ? Not convinced. It has good energy though, but thats about it really. Other than that it sounds just like predesessor of the bro-tech trance era.

It can stay a b-side haha.
 
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The melody isnt that original really, is it ? Not convinced. It has good energy though, but thats about it really. Other than that it sounds just like predesessor of the bro-tech trance era.

It can stay a b-side haha.
I think it's because so much post-2010 bro tech trance sounds just like it that it comes off as generic. I'm sure this is where Will Atkinson took inspiration from some of his earlier tracks like Breathe It and Isolator

Isolator is close enough that it's almost a carbon copy of We'll See
 
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I don't think the bassline follows the melody well enough in the climax, it sounds a bit disjointed, like it's lacking energy. But overall I think I would've enjoyed it.
 
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I don't think the bassline follows the melody well enough in the climax, it sounds a bit disjointed, like it's lacking energy. But overall I think I would've enjoyed it.
I think it's because of the psytrance bassline. Maybe this track would have sounded better with a more standard trance bassline?

Another weird thing about We'll See is that it lacks power in the higher frequencies. I think the EQ got messed up in the released master, and the higher frequencies don't have the breadth/depth that they should have. Because of the compression, the track ends up sounding weirdly lo-fi.

I actually uploaded a slightly modified version of this track on YouTube with the high EQ turned all the way up (from Virtual DJ, of all things), and personally I think it feels more powerful the way a trance saw should feel. I'm not an expert or anything, and I might have boosted the higher frequencies too much, but it's the "version" I like best:


edit: made a bunch of edits since I first posted this comment, but this is now more or less the message I wanted to convey
 

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It's certainly a good Dave Parkinson track, but to me, it's pretty interchangeable with any of the other tunes released under Simon Patterson's name from his Reset/Night vision days. I'd also say that of the names listed, Will Atkinson (and only him) easily surpassed anything under Sipatt's name, starting with Victims. In his old interviews, he talked about how for a while, he was trying to emulate the old Discover and Reset sound, and didn't really come into his own until he started going for his own things, which you can hear around the time he started releasing more frequently on Subculture.

But I am one of the biggest big bill stans there is so take my opinion with a massive rock of salt
 
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It's certainly a good Dave Parkinson track, but to me, it's pretty interchangeable with any of the other tunes released under Simon Patterson's name from his Reset/Night vision days. I'd also say that of the names listed, Will Atkinson (and only him) easily surpassed anything under Sipatt's name, starting with Victims. In his old interviews, he talked about how for a while, he was trying to emulate the old Discover and Reset sound, and didn't really come into his own until he started going for his own things, which you can hear around the time he started releasing more frequently on Subculture.

But I am one of the biggest big bill stans there is so take my opinion with a massive rock of salt
Victims can definitely go toe to toe against We'll See, but that's also because Victims has its own sound.
I had no idea Will Atkinson was actually trying to emulate the old Simon Patterson / Dave Parkinson sound. That explains his discography from 2011-2013 before Victims.