United Trance Division - God of Dreams EP [TF Recordings]

TwinSilo

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Not bad. Like the sounds but could do with better structure. In god of dreams almost everything arrives within the first minute and half, there is no significant build in that section before the break. I see some dont like the dirty bass, but for me I love it. Great sound choice. Tubular bells maybe not so much.

Lost Horizon I have less complaints, although content wise its pretty simple. I will listen to it again for sure. I like your style though, let's see it next time with a bit more mature approach and structure.
 
Oct 7, 2022
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Thank you for all of your feedback, ...​

... no matter if positive or negative. I would like to tell at the point again a little something about my productions. I already thought that my production style is a bit more controversial, but I'm glad that a big part of the community likes the productions. The idea behind my project has always been to highlight the more primitive side of the 90s trance era (which definitely existed). Originally I titled my trance project "primitive trance and hard trance". All my productions could have been produced in the 90s with the right equipment. Producing trance is just fun! I'm not trying to be the next big trance artist here, I just got fed up with generic techno and hardstyle (the areas I actually come from).

@Daysleeper titled "The Lost Horizon" as "midi-ish". Might be because it was produced with MIDI. I have deliberately avoided "newfangled production methods" to replicate the limited possibilities of e.g. Cubase 2.0. The piano sounds cheap and crappy because it is cheap and crappy. By today's standards, a Korg M1 is definitely no longer state of the art, but that's what it's all about: implementing a production with the means that were available in the past. I'm doing my best as a 23 year old to somehow replicate the essence of the past which is not really easy. The music is from a time when I wasn't even born, it's crazy to think about it. Until recently i didn't have much to do with trance, but slowly but surely i'm getting more and more into it. all productions are in some way a tribute (one could even say a copy) of an existing work to understand it better. With every production you learn more and more, so it can only get better.

My next release (sometime this summer) might be a little more appealing to some. For this production i tried to get a bit more of the belgian sound that you know from bonzai. I will announce the realease in the forum as soon as it is ready. Maybe then one or the other will like it more (which I hope very much!).

I thank you again for the criticism, which will definitely flow into future productions! I also thank the TranceFix team that they offer me a platform here, that definitely helps in the future development of my music.

I wish you all a nice weekend, even if we have only Thursday, and thank you to those who have bought my music and thus support both me and TranceFix. Your money will probably be metabolized into beer! ;)

Greetings to all from Germany,

Jonas

Bonus:​

Approximate construction of the instruments needed for "God of Dreams" in the past, nowadays completely realizable on a computer. Modern technology and advanced DAWs are almost in the way.

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Julian Del Agranda

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To be honest I get what Daysleeper is saying.

This doesn’t sound too great. It’s not “bad as if it’s like in the 90s”. No, it’s just not… there yet.

I like the effort, there are elements that I like. But some sound choices would not have been mine. And the melodies aren’t that strong. I feel like the (first) track isn’t going anywhere.

But hey, keep it up, you’ll improve every time. It’s nice to have TF.R. give a platform to experiment and grow. My ‘A New World’ wasn’t perfect either. Gotta start somewhere :)
 
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trancedanne

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This type of cheese supersaw trance wasnt good back then and its still not good today. You nailed the oldschool sound but musicwise its pretty horrible. Im so fucking tired of this retro supersaw bullshit, i want someone to recreate old Oliver Lieb, Incolumis, Humate, James Holden & so on.

3/10
 

Spacetime

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I like what you have tried. Its a very particular feel and you did it well enough. But the arrangement is not too strong and would benefit from better sequencing or variation in how you put everything together. I dirty bass in God of Dreams is interesting for me but the piano and tubluar bells in that track doesnt do it for me. The piano in The Lost Horizon works well for that mood you set.
 

Magdelayna

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Sounds like the style youd find on a 1997 Trancemaster CD - quite enjoyed some of the throwback sample like that BBE clap. Some of the high main synths sound a bit messy when the peak of the track is playing - but id rather listen to this than most modern Trance hehe. Not bad if you were aiming to replicate that mid 90's sound.
 

EnigmaState

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Thank you for all of your feedback, ...​

... no matter if positive or negative. I would like to tell at the point again a little something about my productions. I already thought that my production style is a bit more controversial, but I'm glad that a big part of the community likes the productions. The idea behind my project has always been to highlight the more primitive side of the 90s trance era (which definitely existed). Originally I titled my trance project "primitive trance and hard trance". All my productions could have been produced in the 90s with the right equipment. Producing trance is just fun! I'm not trying to be the next big trance artist here, I just got fed up with generic techno and hardstyle (the areas I actually come from).

@Daysleeper titled "The Lost Horizon" as "midi-ish". Might be because it was produced with MIDI. I have deliberately avoided "newfangled production methods" to replicate the limited possibilities of e.g. Cubase 2.0. The piano sounds cheap and crappy because it is cheap and crappy. By today's standards, a Korg M1 is definitely no longer state of the art, but that's what it's all about: implementing a production with the means that were available in the past. I'm doing my best as a 23 year old to somehow replicate the essence of the past which is not really easy. The music is from a time when I wasn't even born, it's crazy to think about it. Until recently i didn't have much to do with trance, but slowly but surely i'm getting more and more into it. all productions are in some way a tribute (one could even say a copy) of an existing work to understand it better. With every production you learn more and more, so it can only get better.

My next release (sometime this summer) might be a little more appealing to some. For this production i tried to get a bit more of the belgian sound that you know from bonzai. I will announce the realease in the forum as soon as it is ready. Maybe then one or the other will like it more (which I hope very much!).

I thank you again for the criticism, which will definitely flow into future productions! I also thank the TranceFix team that they offer me a platform here, that definitely helps in the future development of my music.

I wish you all a nice weekend, even if we have only Thursday, and thank you to those who have bought my music and thus support both me and TranceFix. Your money will probably be metabolized into beer! ;)

Greetings to all from Germany,

Jonas

Bonus:​

Approximate construction of the instruments needed for "God of Dreams" in the past, nowadays completely realizable on a computer. Modern technology and advanced DAWs are almost in the way.

zWgOZm5.jpg
A fairly close representation of my studio as it is now 🤣
 

Narel

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Sounds like the style youd find on a 1997 Trancemaster CD - quite enjoyed some of the throwback sample like that BBE clap. Some of the high main synths sound a bit messy when the peak of the track is playing - but id rather listen to this than most modern Trance hehe. Not bad if you were aiming to replicate that mid 90's sound.
EXACTLY what I thought also with regards to the Trancemaster CD’s. And not a criticism.
I think adding some more refined textures to the intentionally ‘cheap and crappy’ sounds would give these a really nice edge. In the mid to late 90’s some really really good sounds were being made to sit alongside the typical sounds of the era, I loved that. Check out stuff by Qattara from back then by way of example.
 

Bobby Summa

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Thank you for all of your feedback, ...​

... no matter if positive or negative. I would like to tell at the point again a little something about my productions. I already thought that my production style is a bit more controversial, but I'm glad that a big part of the community likes the productions. The idea behind my project has always been to highlight the more primitive side of the 90s trance era (which definitely existed). Originally I titled my trance project "primitive trance and hard trance". All my productions could have been produced in the 90s with the right equipment. Producing trance is just fun! I'm not trying to be the next big trance artist here, I just got fed up with generic techno and hardstyle (the areas I actually come from).

@Daysleeper titled "The Lost Horizon" as "midi-ish". Might be because it was produced with MIDI. I have deliberately avoided "newfangled production methods" to replicate the limited possibilities of e.g. Cubase 2.0. The piano sounds cheap and crappy because it is cheap and crappy. By today's standards, a Korg M1 is definitely no longer state of the art, but that's what it's all about: implementing a production with the means that were available in the past. I'm doing my best as a 23 year old to somehow replicate the essence of the past which is not really easy. The music is from a time when I wasn't even born, it's crazy to think about it. Until recently i didn't have much to do with trance, but slowly but surely i'm getting more and more into it. all productions are in some way a tribute (one could even say a copy) of an existing work to understand it better. With every production you learn more and more, so it can only get better.

My next release (sometime this summer) might be a little more appealing to some. For this production i tried to get a bit more of the belgian sound that you know from bonzai. I will announce the realease in the forum as soon as it is ready. Maybe then one or the other will like it more (which I hope very much!).

I thank you again for the criticism, which will definitely flow into future productions! I also thank the TranceFix team that they offer me a platform here, that definitely helps in the future development of my music.

I wish you all a nice weekend, even if we have only Thursday, and thank you to those who have bought my music and thus support both me and TranceFix. Your money will probably be metabolized into beer! ;)

Greetings to all from Germany,

Jonas

Bonus:​

Approximate construction of the instruments needed for "God of Dreams" in the past, nowadays completely realizable on a computer. Modern technology and advanced DAWs are almost in the way.

zWgOZm5.jpg
It’s strange. As with Enigma state’s ethos & yours. ( though both different ethos) I realised the project intentions after about 1 minute of listening. That it is aiming to restrict things such as lavish fx etc and stick to raw ( slightly more) bread and butter sounds. I have to say that, yes. It sounds quite dry, but if I (do) understand correctly. That is the intention.
(Ie part of what you mean by primitive sound/ethos). As a producer myself, doing what you’ve done here to recreate a 90s Trance feel ( but all on software) is I think very impressive. Its all to easy to add lots of reverbs and delay to bring a particular sound in a more atmospheric direction. But to keep it dry (ish) and sounding good and raw I reckon takes a lot of skill. I find it interesting how both you and @Magnevi / Jullian Agrando used a similar bell type chime type sound. I usually cover these in lots of fx, but raw ish in this case actually completes the feel for the track.


Cool tracks! (Sorry im so late to the party. ( someone told me it’s cool to turn up late to a party but i do it without meaning too 🙄)


Nice one 👍.
Nice one 👍.
Have a beer on me and others on here dude! Can’t wait till your next release.
 
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Oct 7, 2022
149 Posts
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Bremen
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trance.jonasfaupel.com
It’s strange. As with Enigma state’s ethos & yours. ( though both different ethos) I realised the project intentions after about 1 minute of listening. That it is aiming to restrict things such as lavish fx etc and stick to raw ( slightly more) bread and butter sounds. I have to say that, yes. It sounds quite dry, but if I (do) understand correctly. That is the intention.
(Ie part of what you mean by primitive sound/ethos). As a producer myself, doing what you’ve done here to recreate a 90s Trance feel ( but all on software) is I think very impressive. Its all to easy to add lots of reverbs and delay to bring a particular sound in a more atmospheric direction. But to keep it dry (ish) and sounding good and raw I reckon takes a lot of skill. I find it interesting how both you and @Magnevi / Jullian Agrando used a similar bell type chime type sound. I usually cover these in lots of fx, but raw ish in this case actually completes the feel for the track.


Cool tracks! (Sorry im so late to the party. ( someone told me it’s cool to turn up late to a party but i do it without meaning too 🙄)


Nice one 👍.
Nice one 👍.
Have a beer on me and others on here dude! Can’t wait till your next release.
Thank you for your feedback. The "bell chime type sound" comes from a Korg M1 (this can be emulated by getting the offical VST from korg). The M1 is just great for classic trance type of stuff.

You can still get the release on bandcamp! My next release will be coming soon on "Altered Reality Records", the label of Barry aka. Nostic which is known in the Hard Trance Scene for his main label "Hyper Reality Records". I will of course announce this release in the correct section here in the forum.

Enjoy your weekend! :)
 
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Bobby Summa

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To make it easy, here is the release:


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https://tf-r.bandcamp.com/album/god-of-dreams-ep
Sorted it earlier. Im really clever. I think the problem might be i ‘ think’ have a different account on bandcamp depending on whether im on the browser or app. I didn’t think i had a creator/producer account ( and probably actually don’t) perhaps 2 buyer accounts. Or. Who knows what. Im glad i make music, not websites. If bandcamp was like a DAW I’d be pretty good on it ( unless it had MIDI send/receive configurations like Presonus Studio 1 (the DAW i use) 😄
 
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