- Jun 27, 2020
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Another negativity thread, but I feel like there is a need to discuss this.
@Magnevi wrote a little something in Ben Gold's thread and it triggered me since I absolutely agreed.
So that basically made me think of how stale trance has been. And this was my initial reaction - I wanted to post it there, but it's a bit more important than Ben Gold, so I thought I'd make a new thread.
I really am losing all the respect for musicians who absolutely do not want, or have it in them, to create something new or develop their identity. In 2000 people thought trance was dying, probably because they no longer identified with the sounds and ideas that were taking over the scene, but in 2022 I have to say I really do not see any new ideas coming at all. It's either what's already been here for years, or a mimicry of what once was.
Like, why are we not seeing ethnic crossovers with trance? Like what Ukraine did, combined rap with folk. It might be a bit polarizing and risky, but I liked it... There's so many wonderful cultures, instruments out there, why are strings and pianos mostly used in trance, and why only western/classical style? Are we all just stuck in the mentality that trance is the extension of classical music, and do we not realize how absolutely insulting that sounds? Why are the vocals all the same? We sometimes hear some Arabic influences, but everything else is in the Western style. Can we have some religious chants, for instance (like in Hosanna)? I won't even waste any time on talk of drums and basslines, it's absurd and we know it.
I'll tell you why, and it's two things - no one wants it, and no one can provide it. This is why trance is, for me, stale and I do have a lot of sympathy for those who moved on. I, now, see myself doing the same.
The main question I want to ask is - am I wrong and are there any new ideas popping in trance? If so, where are they? If not, why?
@Magnevi wrote a little something in Ben Gold's thread and it triggered me since I absolutely agreed.
Another Novelli Emma Hewitt female over-emotional pop voice. So boring. We have heard this track dozens of times now.
These type of tracks are way too much centered around the vocal. The vocal should be just a layer in a composition. Not… the only layer.
i mean, just because it has steroid beats under it, you call this vocal trance? Its simply pop with loud drum-samples. Not vocal trance.
ah of course, the breakdown, with a piano. And cringy even more extremely “emotional” omg I have to cry, vocals.
insert generic pluck, and freezer will give it tune, of the year.
This is exactly why I rather listen to Spain’s Eurovision entry than to current trance. That song doesn’t take itself seriously. just fun. But all these 138-emotional-pluck tracks take themselves wayyyyy toooo seriously. Cringe.
So that basically made me think of how stale trance has been. And this was my initial reaction - I wanted to post it there, but it's a bit more important than Ben Gold, so I thought I'd make a new thread.
I really am losing all the respect for musicians who absolutely do not want, or have it in them, to create something new or develop their identity. In 2000 people thought trance was dying, probably because they no longer identified with the sounds and ideas that were taking over the scene, but in 2022 I have to say I really do not see any new ideas coming at all. It's either what's already been here for years, or a mimicry of what once was.
Like, why are we not seeing ethnic crossovers with trance? Like what Ukraine did, combined rap with folk. It might be a bit polarizing and risky, but I liked it... There's so many wonderful cultures, instruments out there, why are strings and pianos mostly used in trance, and why only western/classical style? Are we all just stuck in the mentality that trance is the extension of classical music, and do we not realize how absolutely insulting that sounds? Why are the vocals all the same? We sometimes hear some Arabic influences, but everything else is in the Western style. Can we have some religious chants, for instance (like in Hosanna)? I won't even waste any time on talk of drums and basslines, it's absurd and we know it.
I'll tell you why, and it's two things - no one wants it, and no one can provide it. This is why trance is, for me, stale and I do have a lot of sympathy for those who moved on. I, now, see myself doing the same.
The main question I want to ask is - am I wrong and are there any new ideas popping in trance? If so, where are they? If not, why?