Jef Karlen - Here I Am [Avena Records]

[Altair]

Your post is great but this part isn’t right though.

The big difference between now and then is that if you dive into trance from 1996-2007 you’ll find a MUCH wider range of sounds, the drums used, the rhythms of melodies, etc. It’s not a narrow definition, but a very wide one. There was hundreds of ‘ideas’ with various producers being so good that you’d instantly hear it was them, even though they did not recycle sounds at all.

In contrast to what we have had now for the last decade, where 1 idea forms 80% of our scene (the template hard kick rolling bassline small clap 16th note arp female adlib type). With an extreme form of recycling too. People just use the exact same kick sample in various tracks. No, not a “similar styled kick”, I literally mean the exact same sample. And that goes for bass, fx, synth choice.

The problem isn’t a narrow view of ‘us old listeners’ at all. The problem is today’s producers - who are also “old males” btw. They lack the time (family, fulltime job), talent, and motivation to explore the 99 other ideas and possibilities, and all end up with the extremely narrow range of ideas we have now.

Facade said: do producer need to invent? Is that a must? No, the answer is no. It would be nice though, if producers tried 1 of the other 99 ideas that are hardly ever done by anyone. There are sooo many possibilities, you don’t have to invent, just for once… select a different clap… try to draw a melody that is not 16th pluck notes, to begin with…

Oh I'm in full agreement - I was moreso getting at the people that I've seen on this forum (they probably know who they are) who can't find anything positive to say about ANY new trance, and haven't been able to since the mudslinging about 2.0 that started a full fifteen-odd years ago (or even before that). But every subgenre of music ends up attracting such types unfortunately.

I do have my own samples and presets that I reach for often, but I've tried to make a lot of my own, or use preset packs that aren't as mainstream. And having a full time job myself I can empathize with wanting to be a bit lazy here and there - the FX sweeps in that remix were mainly Vengeance samples since I was too lazy by that point to synthesize them myself (though I did timestretch a few to give them a different sheen).

But Mr. "Show me how many labels you've released on" here definitely ain't coming from this angle.

 

[Jetflag]

They lack the time (family, fulltime job), talent, and motivation to explore the 99 other ideas and possibilities

oof, that one hit the groin

not wrong though.

So..if everyone her would kindly donate me 500 bucks monthly so I can at least quite my job and hire a full time butler that would be swell

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

So..if everyone her would kindly donate me 500 bucks monthly so I can at least quite my job and hire a full time butler that would be swell

and a monthly travel to some beautiful place to prevent writer's block

 

[Jetflag]

^ what @tranceissomewhatalive said.

 

[Progrez]

and a monthly travel to some beautiful place to prevent writer's block

Don't forget girls and private jets

 

[GeorD]

Wait, so if you don't know about the technicalities behind music production, you're not allowed to critically assess music?
This implies that realistically almost the entire fanbase is required to slobber up the music unquestioningly, just because you as an experienced producer run the label and say it's a good track?

I know plenty of people who have been listening to music for decades and know a lot of the terminology and can recognise sounds and effects. Is their opinion defeated by any newbie producer?

This argumentation makes no sense. I get it, you want to promote music here, but this forum where people (including me) look for character in the music and the person behind it, is not the target audience for this type of track. Acting so offended doesn't help either.

Personally I only comment because I'm summoned, I'd also have ignored this post. It's not for me. I fully agree with Pokkryshkin.

 

[Jetflag]

Don't forget girls and private jets

I was going to like this comment for the excellent suggestion but then i felt the cold-dagger stare of my wife's eyes in the back of my neck.

 

[Jetflag]

Personally I only comment because I'm summoned

 

[Progrez]

I was going to like this comment for the excellent suggestion but then i felt the cold-dagger stare of my wife's eyes in the back of my neck.

I can say things like this because I am single.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

it's funny to see the thread starter guy went all silent, it would probably be entertaining to read what he has to say after all the hustle in here

definitely a better pr than most of the passable releases like this receive

 

[facade1984]

I'm gonna miss him

 

[HoorayHorace]

You know, maybe many times i do not agree with the feedbacks here on music but this time, i´m actually glad you guys brought the worst in that label owner .. i have few good friends on that label, perhaps they will think about the next release when i show them how mature their boss is behaving, nothing like TranceFix therapy lol

 

[Coredata]

This was such an entertaining read over my post lunch coffee, thank you for tagging me

 

[Jetflag]

the worst in that label owner

Well, the worst..the worst.. if it where his own release I would agree but besides “his honour” he is, charitably, also very much defending

Karlen, a, from what I can tell, very much upstart producer who doesn’t deserve that amount of hate for what is arguably his first ittypitty release, template or no.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

Well, the worst..the worst.. if it where his own release I would agree but besides “his honour” he is, charitably, also very much defending
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Karlen, a, from what I can tell, very much upstart producer who doesn’t deserve that amount of hate for what is arguably his first ittypitty release, template or no.

well at least he must realize what's missing in his music as of now

 

[Jetflag]

well at least he must realize what's missing in his music as of now

I don’t think he is in any way is going to make changes or experiment for the better based on the bitter mockery and spiteful hate comments he receives for one of his first works here m8.

its non-sensical to think he would.

 

[tranceissomewhatalive]

I don’t think he is in any way is going to make changes or experiment for the better based on the bitter mockery and spiteful hate comments he receives for one of his first works here m8.

its non-sensical to think he would.

so sad

 

[Yoonderful]

This argumentation makes no sense. I get it, you want to promote music here, but this forum where people (including me) look for character in the music and the person behind it, is not the target audience for this type of track.

I very much agree with this comment.

 

[Freezer]

The track is cringe generic 138 with zero creativity, but 100% template
All of the comments are spot on!
This label is nothing but generic template factory
Im not a producer, but I still think Im pretty much right about it