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Forget the haters on the internet, The Odyssey is a brilliant and fantastic movie. I saw it in IMAX and I think you should watch in on the biggest screen possible.

I know a bit about Greek Mythology, but not everything that was featured I had heard before.

You should go and see this with an open mind and not nitpick on any historical inaccuracies and or slight changes in th story of the original Odyssey.

Acting is topnotch, action scenes are great. Highly recommenden

oh and the role by Travis Scott is really small and there is no rap music

Saw it on Imax over the weekend, and by it's an absolute masterpiece. The scale of the set pieces is absolutely incredible.

Studied Homer during my A-Levels many moons ago, and it's so good to know there are so many experts out there on the subject, and more shockingly, a lot of them American.

Appreciate it's difficult to attain historical accuracy, and must've been even more difficult to cast a real Cyclops in the role, but fortunately, the auteur filmmaker went with his gut instinct and didn't simply rename the character to Simon Clops, despite online pressure from all the Homer experts out there who've been waiting in the wings for the past for the last 2700-2800 years.

Joking aside though, if you love film, go see it on the biggest screen possible. I had zero expectations for this film, and have a strange relationship with Nolan (Hated Rise, not a massive fan of Interstellar or Inception, Oppenheimer was a bit too obvious for me, Memento/Dark Knight/Prestige I found to be superb, and weirdly enough - I adored Tenet).

It's almost as if going into a film with an open mind can often enhance the experience.
 

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Really liked The Odyssey as well. Arguably the best film he's ever done, the most impressive part being the directing/cinematography aspect, and at that immense scale. It's just a cool story in general, and had some good moments of tension. The scene with the witch and the pigs was amazing. The forest scene with the giant solider was so good too. It was a long movie but I didn't want it to end.

The sound track was sick too, although like Tenet the volume and dynamics felt terrible. So loud and overblown in moments.

I would have liked the violence to be a touch more graphic and 'real', to really hit home the carnage and evilness of the collapse of Troy. The cyclops eating the first dude is a good example, where its produces a visceral response, but after that the action felt a bit hollywood/sanitized. Close combat, in particular is a bit shakey and basic, and not that interesting with the screenplay.

I also think Nolan struggles to write really interesting dialogue, and have very interesting character interactions because of it. Everyone is acted very well, the casting is great, and I loved Matt Damon, but there's not many memorable or compelling dialogue scenes. There's nothing iconic feeling about it in that regards. Robert Pattison is good, but not really a well fleshed out/memorable villain, as one example of that.

83/100
 

PegaSus

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Got my tickets for wednesday. Going to travel 1 hour and 20 minutes to see it in IMAX. Going to be good I assume. ☺️
 
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cheers for the reviews lads, I'm still not going to watch it (in IMAX)...but thats due to family circumstances. Will probably stream once available online (and timewise)
 

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Who's going to see The Odyssey? @Katadunkass
Saw it this Friday, 7/10 movie

I absolutely HATED the trailers and thought they were complete ass, but fortunately the movie is much better than what the trailers makes it out to be. The practical effects and scope of it all is insane, but I just can't get pass the dialogue and whenever I see Matt Damon, all I see is Matt Damon, lmao. I do have other nitpicks with it as well, but honestly, this is a movie which makes an argument as to why Movies and Cinema's around the world should exist and is still relevant and I gotta respect that.
 
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k, ya'll got me curious, so I pulled a (fairly) decent Camrip from online, and given my newborn usually sleeps for well over 3 hours on my left arm close to my chest I might aswell give the Odyssey a shot.

Should be interesting because most of the praise is predominatly for Nolan's cinematography, which will be short-cut by me watching it in SD on a tablet and so the movie will have to preform on other fronts aswell for me.
 
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PegaSus

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k, ya'll got me curious, so I pulled a (fairly) decent Camrip from online, and given my newborn usually sleeps for well over 3 hours on my left arm close to my chest I might aswell give the Odyssey a shot.

Should be interesting because most of the praise is predominatly for Nolan's cinematography, which will be short-cut by me watching it in SD on a tablet and so the movie will have to preform on other fronts aswell for me.
Just like Nolan intended mate haha.
 

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"A fairly decent camrip" for a movie shot entirely in IMAX is wild, lmao - As PegaSus said, Nolan would be proud of you!
 
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Mar 3, 2022
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I'm currently going through a Gene Wilder stage, and trying to watch his greatest.

Stir Crazy, Silver Streak, The Producers, Blazing Saddles, and Young Frankenstein...


Some of the greatest comedies ever filmed. Saddles, and Young Frankenstein have to be top 5 of all time. They're hilarious. YF is beyond ridiculous. As close to a perfect comedy as you get.
 

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first of all thanks to my wife for taking Lev over at this time so I can endulge my autism.

The Odyssey 2026 verdict: 6.5 out of 10.

Cinematography: Great.

If you’re a big fan of great Hollywood IMAX “image over story” pixel fests, then I whole heartily recommend this treat for you. Nolan’s cinematography is, even in a cam-torrented version on my laptop, genuinely epic. And action scenes are nice. My only gripe is probably some of the more ridiculous costume choices, Agamemnon was a hit, the trojan outfit a laughable miss, also the Laestrygonians Llegiones Cataegis looked rather, fakish..

Story: Crap. And yes, I’m going to be biased here and compare it to how I read it.

Homer’s Oddysey is, at its core, a (Greek) Mythological tale of Heroism and Man versus Gods, with an epic climatic ending where Odysseus re-conquers his home and family. Nolan’s current translation of that^ could very well have been dubbed “ the Quest” , and set some time in a post-techno future or middle Europe pre medieval soft fantasy with different character names. And it would have been just the same “ Great” movie, carried by its aforementioned cinematography.

Odysseus or “ the Smart man” is, or is supposed to be, a passionate adventurer who, by sheer whit, will and acts of heroism guides his crew eventually home and takes revenge on those who defiled his Kingdom. In this movie however he, as portrait by Damon, comes across more a war Veteran with PTSD and a guilt complex, who sort of “has to get on with it” diminishing much of his actual heroic qualities. he isn’t portrayed as a praiseworthy hero with a film who constantly elevates his crew, invents or imports material and all in all making him worse, fraudulent and sterile then he needs to be, and at the end honestly leaving me wondering why such a diminished figure even deserves to return home successfully, The end didn’t do much for me apart from find it somewhat satisfactory that Antinous died. One plus point I will grant is Nolan not going at this chronologically, which, for a film and especially for people who never read anything of the original tale, works.

And now before the choir of Nolan fans will go “Awkctuawly Sir..It was Nolans artistic choice to do this and therefor zats a fallacy”

No -> Shit excuse for this kind of subversiveness. Make better artistic choices then especially if you’re a director of Nolan’s Caliber and this is supposed to be your Magnum beeping Opus. Like said: if you want to tell a different story then the original just do a different (original) story...why subvert original works? What’s the point? And its not like there aren’t successful precedents in either his own corpus of works or others... Villeneuve nailed it with Dune, Jackson nailed it with LOTR, Nolan failed with the Odyssey here, toning him/the story way down, which is arguably precisely what Wilson’s/Nolan’s wanted for him. I blame the book as much as the film so 50/50 split on that.

In light of homer’s original work I judge this: Safe (stereo) typical, Hollywood “ Egalitarian” Shlop, of what should be IMO an epic mythical tale.
Which isn’t at all helped by the downtown LA “fuck this and fuck that” Dialogue and accents by the way... which segways us neatly into:


Philosophy/Ideology: Surprisingly and Moderately mainstream.

..The elephant in the room, The dreaded Wokeness factor (dundunduuun) that we got from the trailers and all the culture waring surrounding that prehoc release.

And I was glad to see that, its actually surprisingly absent and very much a non issue.

Yes there’s a black “ we wuz greekz & zheet!” Helen of troy for like 2 seconds, yes there’s a non-binairy “modern Greek soldier" in the entourage who gets pasted in the first minute or so and later comes back a bit Hades style, Chani from Dune makes the occasional appearance. But its not at all bothersome, preachy or on the nose, or in anyway very relevant to the whole thing.. It’s a bit like Villeneuve’s casting for Kines, Nobody except the die hard 4chan basement dwellers will probably care and I certainly didn’t. This movie isn’t woke, Its quietly and safely subversive Mainstream for “ modern audiences”. Ideology wise. Make of that what you will.



Style: Meh…

Nolan’s style of hyper realism worked for batman, it worked great for interstellar me thinks, It worked for Tenet, It sort of meh’d for inception and it doesn’t really work here, Nolan’s choice of using practical effects over the endless CGI shlop we’re used from Hollywood is on the one hand commendable, but on the other hand somewhat misplaced. A Greek Mythological epic, like the Oddysey, Jason and the Argonauts, Hercules, Theseus or Bellerphon would Imo on rare exception actually benefit from OT CGI. Not saying he should have gone the 300 route, but its all a bit too…..down to earthly for my taste. It also doesn’t help that a lot of the scenes look like somewhere in Overcast Northern Europe with Instagram filters instead of a Greece/ Mediterranean vibe.

Soundtrack: Fine.

Again, didn’t see it in Imax and sounded ok through my headphones for what the rip was worth..Liked the concept of not using a traditional orchestra. One of the better conceptual choices Nolan made.

Acting: Not great not terrible,

For the script he was given Damon actually did an ok job (dialogue not withstanding), but not good enough for me to feel genuinely invested him at the end of the movie. Pattenson’s acting was in my opinion the best.

All in all I think Nolan simply adapted the wrong (original) story...But as a film It kept me entertained for 3 hours with my newborn peacefully sleeping on my hand with good points, and bad points.

Here’s the thing though...where as I have films in my inventory that I can watch 10 times over and still be amazed.. I’m actually perfectly content not rewatching this movie again. Not a waste of time by any means, but also not a massive gain or addition..

my 2 cents.
 
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I'm currently going through a Gene Wilder stage, and trying to watch his greatest.

Stir Crazy, Silver Streak, The Producers, Blazing Saddles, and Young Frankenstein...


Some of the greatest comedies ever filmed. Saddles, and Young Frankenstein have to be top 5 of all time. They're hilarious. YF is beyond ridiculous. As close to a perfect comedy as you get.
"The common clay of the new West....."
 

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Great review @Jetflag. I have never read the book, and I actually didn't realize all the classic characters and stories e.g cyclops, sirens, troy etc were all part of that same tale. So going in blind really helped me enjoy the tale unfold, although I agree there is a lack of Greek-ness to it and aesthetically it's sterile. Calling story crap seems harsh to me though, as each individual plot moment was quite entertaining and solid I thought, and good tension and action was delivered in moments.

Odysseus does indeed come across as war vet PTSD vs an adventurer with peak heroism, and I also didn't feel like he earned, (or cared too much) about his return either. We needed stronger connection and interactions with the crew imo, to build some of that. It's interesting that with 3 hours you have no connection or interest in any of those characters. In comparison in Aliens you know the whole crew by name, enjoy their iconic lines and moments... they are memorable and help elevate Ripley's development.
 
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