What's your view on this? Is this pseudo science which is just a bunch of junk. I think Binaural beats are cool but I think the whole part about the Hz thing is a tad bit overr-rated.
What's your view on this? Is this pseudo science which is just a bunch of junk. I think Binaural beats are cool but I think the whole part about the Hz thing is a tad bit overr-rated.
Jetflag
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Well, yes and no.
it depends on the instrument. tuning to different pitches (not even neccesairily 432 hz) has subtle effects on the timbre of acoustic instruments. It however, makes 0 difference when something is electronically generated.
and seen as most of these 432hz meditation compositions are (for the most part) electronically generated, I'm more in the camp of WooWoo for Hippies then not.
so mostly Junk/pseudoscience, though there is a core of benefit truth to it when dealing with acoustic instruments and their respective "softness"
Well, there are studies out there that show some benefits to doing this with a combination of meditation (ie Wim Hof and DMT meditation) as well.
Jetflag
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do you have a citation/link to any of those? Ii highly doubt its beeficial because of the actual difference between 440 hz v 432hz in the final bounce but I could be wrong. Though I suspect it could be that, because people believe it makes a difference, it does. So a placebo.
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There are studies for Wim Hof method so that's not a placebo
"Brain over body"-A study on the willful regulation of autonomic function during cold exposure - PubMed
The defense of body temperature against environmental thermal challenges is a core objective of homeostatic regulation governed by the autonomic nervous system. Autonomous mechanisms of thermoregulation are only weakly affected by top-down modulation, allowing only transient tolerance for...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Voluntary activation of the sympathetic nervous system and attenuation of the innate immune response in humans - PMC
Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced. The present study demonstrates that, through practicing techniques learned in a short-term training program, the ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I found this one on Binuaral beats but more studies need to be done.
Auditory Beat Stimulation and its Effects on Cognition and Mood States - PMC
Auditory beat stimulation may be a promising new tool for the manipulation of cognitive processes and the modulation of mood states. Here, we aim to review the literature examining the most current applications of auditory beat stimulation and its ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Jetflag
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Misunderstanding there. I was specifically refering to binaural beats. i practice the WH method myself aamof and its defo no placebo heh..There are studies for Wim Hof method so that's not a placebo
"Brain over body"-A study on the willful regulation of autonomic function during cold exposure - PubMed
The defense of body temperature against environmental thermal challenges is a core objective of homeostatic regulation governed by the autonomic nervous system. Autonomous mechanisms of thermoregulation are only weakly affected by top-down modulation, allowing only transient tolerance for...
Voluntary activation of the sympathetic nervous system and attenuation of the innate immune response in humans - PMC
Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced. The present study demonstrates that, through practicing techniques learned in a short-term training program, the ...
I found this one on Binuaral beats but more studies need to be done.
Auditory Beat Stimulation and its Effects on Cognition and Mood States - PMC
Auditory beat stimulation may be a promising new tool for the manipulation of cognitive processes and the modulation of mood states. Here, we aim to review the literature examining the most current applications of auditory beat stimulation and its ...
Bobby Summa
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Thought I’d write here. I see too many binaural videos and various hz videos pop on my YouTube suggestions. I was once very intrigued by the idea of their relevance thus they still pop up, it’s getting boring now. I should never have saved any.
Too often. Although the music is possibly’nice’ (wish washy ) it can relax to an extent. Whatever it be, hz and binaural beats. But I soon thought, surely my favourite ambient tracks might have greater effect because I like them, and that that far increases whatever the brain produces in terms of serotonin / mind state etc than a particular frequency or binaural beat.
Science has no proof of in particular’Bi Naural effect through brain entrainment. One would surely think if you ‘yourself’ generated a nice chemical response due to ‘loving’ the ambient piece, or finding it very relaxing this would have far more effect. So, probably coukd be any frequency and binaural or non binaural etc.
Studies of scientific reviews of binaural beats and brain entrainment from 2023 concluded the following. (Interestingly the last word used is ‘caution’)
From the study:
“Furthermore, the present systematic review highlights the fact that existing studies reporting changes in psychological and physiological functioning due to putative effects of brainwave entrainment in response to binaural beat stimulation should be considered with caution”
See below
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Too often. Although the music is possibly’nice’ (wish washy ) it can relax to an extent. Whatever it be, hz and binaural beats. But I soon thought, surely my favourite ambient tracks might have greater effect because I like them, and that that far increases whatever the brain produces in terms of serotonin / mind state etc than a particular frequency or binaural beat.
Science has no proof of in particular’Bi Naural effect through brain entrainment. One would surely think if you ‘yourself’ generated a nice chemical response due to ‘loving’ the ambient piece, or finding it very relaxing this would have far more effect. So, probably coukd be any frequency and binaural or non binaural etc.
Studies of scientific reviews of binaural beats and brain entrainment from 2023 concluded the following. (Interestingly the last word used is ‘caution’)
From the study:
“Furthermore, the present systematic review highlights the fact that existing studies reporting changes in psychological and physiological functioning due to putative effects of brainwave entrainment in response to binaural beat stimulation should be considered with caution”
See below
Binaural beats to entrain the brain? A systematic review of the effects of binaural beat stimulation on brain oscillatory activity, and the implications for psychological research and intervention - PMC
Binaural beats are an auditory phenomenon that occurs when two tones of different frequencies, which are presented separately to each ear, elicit the sensation of a third tone oscillating at the difference frequency of the two tones. Binaural beats ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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