MurZo - Kiss The Night [FSOE]

[Freezer]

Might as well be an alias of Darren Porter, Will Atkinson, Joc, I dunno, they all sound the same.

these 3 producers have their very specific style, you gave a very bad example, it's obvious that you are not that familiar with it...
I got you point, but the example was so bad

 

[Jetflag]

if you're so annoyed by my reviews,

er, where's the annoyance?

don't want to speak on jan's behalf but its just curiousity m8...wondering why, if its the main thing for you, and you find it to be quite epic, you rate it 6/10, barely making the pass-mark

 

[Freezer]

er, where's the annoyance?

don't want to speak on jan's behalf but its just curiousity m8...wondering why, if its the main thing for you, and you find it to be quite epic, you rate it 6/10, barely making the pass-mark

6/10 still better than average, however I know its not that kind of track, which will be timeless for me, I will enjoy it for lets say 10 listens and than I will possibly move on.

I go through 300, maybe 500 releases every week, uplifting, techno, prog and mainstage styles. I Ilisten to many radioshows. I go to many events. My ratings are not randomized or so, there is quite a big thought behind every rating I throw

 

[Jetflag]

6/10 still better than average, however I know its not that kind of track, which will be timeless for me, I will enjoy it for lets say 10 listens and than I will possibly move on.

I go through 300, maybe 500 releases every week, uplifting, techno, prog and mainstage styles. I Ilisten to many radioshows. I go to many events. My ratings are not randomized or so, there is quite a big thought behind every rating I throw

oh sure m8, and just to be 100% clear....rate however much and how you want...

but if you consider the melody to be the ->main thing<- e.a. the most important factor, which you judge as quote: "super-fine to me"
find the rest of the elements okísh

and then go around giving just a "better then average" overall...

i might leave some people a tad confused

 

[Freezer]

oh sure m8, and just to be 100% clear....rate however much and how you want...

but if you consider the melody to be the ->main thing<- e.a. the most important factor, which you judge as quote: "super-fine to me"
find the rest of the elements okísh

and then go around giving just a "better then average" overall...

i might leave some people a tad confused

Oh yeah, I still say 6/10 is pretty good rating and it means, that I can recommend this track, but also saying its not unique or absolutely standout The reason why I cant give it more is that I gave 7/10 to the last Activa track for example, which is from my point better in more aspects. So I shouldnt give the same rating.

 

[Freezer]

Also the reason why I hardly ever go to 4/10 or below is that there are in fact bigger craps, which arent posted on this forum at all. These are the tracks from Nahawand recordings and similar to that. These labels sometimes release a track with bad mastering, false vocals or even wrong note. I really try to be vocal about that just to reduce the piece of shyte being released. Im quite active on various forums and FB groups. I often point out that something is really bad. Do you know what they sometimes reply to me?: Oh wait! Must be on of the guys from that TF forum, they never liked anything Sometimes i say to myself, yeah Im in fact the guy from TF...but if you only knew that acutally no one likes me there

 

[Jetflag]

that acutally no one likes me there

dude you've been thanked 505 times (+ one to re-iterate that point home just now) out of 1032 posts..

metrically speaking.. at the very least half the people on TF like you.

 

[Julian Del Agranda]

.but if you only knew that acutally no one likes me there

I don't know you personally, so it's not about liking you.

I am just genuine shocked by your conclusions a lot of times. Maybe it's because I make music myself. So I know that someone can spent hours on a few hihats. Getting just the right ones. Not just the first you click on. Adjusting the pitch on them to make it perfect for the specific track. Adjusting timing, reverbs, etc etc. It can be anything. To make just a few hihats perfect. Next day you find out it's not what you want in the end. Let's work on it again. The same with claps, percussion samples, FX. Don't just slam in some wind... NO, choose or create something unique for your FX. Hours mate. Hours. Untill everything is balanced out, and it all sounds perfect. Great satisfaction when all your effort is finally done and made into a worthy endproduct.

Now, I am my own most critical/cynical fan, so I honestly don't care if you would be harsh to what I make personally. Like I always say: I'm just a noob.

But there are tracks from others posted here - whether you like them or not (that's taste) - there is lot's of time and effort put in them. Tracks with unique sounds that are in zero other tracks. Tracks that offer something to our genre that others don't. And then you quickly rate them like 6/10.

So then I have to conclude: You believe all those templates are better. As you usually give those 8/10, deffo not lower than 6/10.

And that's just heartbreaking

I tried to explain that in the other topic as well, and then you replied that you don't care about that. You just want a good melody.

I'd rather have you understand some aspects of what people are saying, but I don't think I can succeed. So alrighty then, I'll mute you and you'll never have me bore you again about your ratings...

Oh btw: if you stumble upon tracks with false singing.... you can just give them 0/10. So you have enough low grades left for "normal crap". Just a tip.

 

[Propeller]

Almost totally generic and unimaginative. Template production. Cringe, sugary vocal:

Open up the sky, hypnotise the stars and kiss the night goodbye.

I do like the strings in the breakdown.
I imagine it's 15 year old kids who buy this kind of stuff. The target audience for FSOE.

 

[Bluemoon]

I think music is incredibly more subjective than most people want to admit. Atleast when i see discussions like these.

There is tons of things to take into consideration.

How old is the listener, is he a young person full of energy who still enjoys to party or does he mostly sit home relaxed with headphones and listen. I mean just looking at myself there is songs i cant even understand that i liked 10 years ago, songs that where almost my favourites.

Some people tend to be drawn into aggressive music, they want a kick and energy from music. Others view music as something more sophisticated and they listen more deeply to music. This can also be very mood dependent. It can be about the phase of life you are in.

How long has the person been listening to trance. Was he there for the so called golden days or did he start listening 2 years ago.

How much time does the person spend on finding and listening to music. Heck i know people who never activly puts time into finding music, they are the kind of people who find their new favourite song at a party or if it just pops up infront of their face online by random. For these kind of people something that has been overdone many times over might not be as terrible as for someone who spends hours daily hunting for the next favourite song who heard this exact song 100's of times before. I do not doubt though that when these people really like a song, their enjoyment is just as big as mine.

Some people see the melody as the highlight , the journey of the song. They can listen to it and enjoy this journey even if the mastering isnt perfect.

Some people is all about the technical side of the song. Everything has to be in perfect harmony, if it is then the melody isnt that important.

Some people need the melody and the technical side for be satisfied.

The variables are basically endless.

One mans trash is another mans gold.

 

[LostLegend]

Poor guy releases his first track and the thread turns into a warzone.

Welcome to the world of trance production!

 

[Jetflag]

@MurZo you can add another trofee to your first release m8

one of the longest and most discussed threads on an FSOE release on TF.com ever.

 

[MurZo]

Actually can't believe how this thread has turned out. Only came this site because I seen my track being shared. Probably wish I hadn't now.. here in Ireland we always support each other so maybe I'm not used to this negative stuff like I've seen In here but it's all good if you don't like the track fair enough

 

[skyriderz]

Actually can't believe how this thread has turned out. Only came this site because I seen my track being shared. Probably wish I hadn't now.. here in Ireland we always support each other so maybe I'm not used to this negative stuff like I've seen In here but it's all good if you don't like the track fair enough

You have done a good job on first release mate , the melody is excellent, vocals are nice , i really liked it , and ignore the harsh/garbage comments like terrible etc. they are used to it as they find most of the uplifting posted here generic/template productions etc, you see many have also liked and enjoyed the track here

 

[Magdelayna]

For a modern vocal trance track its not bad. Good memorable melody,the vocals and her voice is pretty nice. Yes,its dressed up in a rather generic production. Everyone seems to use the same kick and claps.

The one thing i dont like about the Trance scene now, is you dont know if someone is just using a ghost producer,and faking their way in - like Bixx. Im espeically dubious over someone who comes straight in with a successful high quality track and theyve never released anything before lol.

 

[Julian Del Agranda]

^ and never heard of Trancefix hehe

 

[MurZo]

For a modern vocal trance track its not bad. Good memorable melody,the vocals and her voice is pretty nice. Yes,its dressed up in a rather generic production. Everyone seems to use the same kick and claps.

The one thing i dont like about the Trance scene now, is you dont know if someone is just using a ghost producer,and faking their way in - like Bixx. Im espeically dubious over someone who comes straight in with a successful high quality track and theyve never released anything before lol.

I've had releases before under a different name I had a traxsouce number 1 in techno. I haven't released anything in 3 years while learning how to make trance it's a lot harder to make than any other in my opinion..

 

[Magdelayna]

I've had releases before under a different name I had a traxsouce number 1 in techno. I haven't released anything in 3 years while learning how to make trance it's a lot harder to make than any other in my opinion..

Fair enough mate.

 

[Freezer]

I don't know you personally, so it's not about liking you.

I am just genuine shocked by your conclusions a lot of times. Maybe it's because I make music myself. So I know that someone can spent hours on a few hihats. Getting just the right ones. Not just the first you click on. Adjusting the pitch on them to make it perfect for the specific track. Adjusting timing, reverbs, etc etc. It can be anything. To make just a few hihats perfect. Next day you find out it's not what you want in the end. Let's work on it again. The same with claps, percussion samples, FX. Don't just slam in some wind... NO, choose or create something unique for your FX. Hours mate. Hours. Untill everything is balanced out, and it all sounds perfect. Great satisfaction when all your effort is finally done and made into a worthy endproduct.

Now, I am my own most critical/cynical fan, so I honestly don't care if you would be harsh to what I make personally. Like I always say: I'm just a noob.

But there are tracks from others posted here - whether you like them or not (that's taste) - there is lot's of time and effort put in them. Tracks with unique sounds that are in zero other tracks. Tracks that offer something to our genre that others don't. And then you quickly rate them like 6/10.

So then I have to conclude: You believe all those templates are better. As you usually give those 8/10, deffo not lower than 6/10.

And that's just heartbreaking

I tried to explain that in the other topic as well, and then you replied that you don't care about that. You just want a good melody.

I'd rather have you understand some aspects of what people are saying, but I don't think I can succeed. So alrighty then, I'll mute you and you'll never have me bore you again about your ratings...

Oh btw: if you stumble upon tracks with false singing.... you can just give them 0/10. So you have enough low grades left for "normal crap". Just a tip.

In my opinion you're making too much of it, it's just a number, it's just a rough statement of how I personally like the track and how the track appeals to me, no mathematical equations needed. If the tracks gives me goosebumps, there is nothing more needed. I dont care if he use template for the hi-hat or if he worked one week on it...
its easy as that

enjoy your ZEN without my ratings

 

[delphion]

Actually can't believe how this thread has turned out. Only came this site because I seen my track being shared. Probably wish I hadn't now.. here in Ireland we always support each other so maybe I'm not used to this negative stuff like I've seen In here but it's all good if you don't like the track fair enough

Yeah, welcome to trance haters. People here mostly hates trance, dont sure why they still listen to it. Only crappiest, most simplest and nichiest tracks are liked here. Its a known joke that this forum is called trancehaters