The state of Tiesto

Progrez

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Because Armin seems to have broken loose of his fan's expectations more than having sold out completely like Tiësto. I agree the Armin situation is not ideal, and most of what he plays at ASOT is either plain boring or not Trance, but he does at least still stay in touch with the Trance scene one way or another and he (at least sort of) appears to enjoy it. His album "A State of Trance Forever" contains some nice tracks, of course all of them are collabs so production-wise they seem to lean heavily on the respective collaborators, but at least he is trying. His ASOT labels seem to revert more to the 2000's sound as well with many classic artists like Sonicvibe returning to ASOT in their old styles.

Whether you buy this whole rhetoric or see it as a good piece of acting work where he's simply trying to actively not burn the bridges behind him is up to you. May be I'm simply naive. But it's nice to dream sometimes.
Are you sure about that? He did a collaboration with Steve Aioki.
Yeah,you cant compare Armin with Tiesto....Tiesto went for the money big style,and why not. At least Armin still support some minor Trance artists.
His show mainly has a lot of ASOT/Armada artists feature on the show. There might be an odd ball here and there like Airwave featuring on the show.
 

dmgtz96

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I feel like Tiesto has spent way more time on non-trance than trance.
What were some of the last trance tracks he worked on? Elements of Life [2007]? It's been 17 years. Trance was just a stage of his music career.
I would argue he started with trance some time in 1994/1995, with the release of Forbidden Paradise 3. So that is 13 years at most, between 1994 (first trance DJ mix) and 2007 (last trance album).

Remember that he used to produce happy hardcore and rave type music, instead of trance trance. He was not one of the original Platipus producers, and he definitely was not one of the originals Dance 2 Trance / Jam & Spoon / Cosmic Baby / PvD / Lieb / etc. He was just a DJ following the trends. He knew which producers could craft the sound that he had in his mind for basically all of the songs released under the Tiesto name. Once trance fell in global popularity (which it did! after 2005 or so), he dipped and went to trouse.

I'm not a Tiesto fanboy. I just don't think he really cares about "selling out" or leaving trance behind. He was probably one of the earliest people to know that trance would fall in popularity soon after his 2004 olympics DJ set.
 

Mosquito

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Hahah my god man, he even dropped some jump up DNB at the end, no words
Well, he already had some D&B releases (e.g. "The First Note Is Silent" in 2011) and used to play with genres A LOT during the "Kaleidoscope" era. You could hear D&B, hardcore, techno, house/hip hop hybrids, etc. in his sets. Which was lots of fun, not gonna lie.

What were some of the last trance tracks he worked on?
He had a couple of VER:WEST tracks during the pandemic. Not strictly speaking trance, but definitely more melodic than usual.

And yes, you're right, he didn't actually start with trance, and he obviously jumped on board after realizing the genre was getting popular. Which is fine by me, he still helped produce some of the best trance records ever.

Btw. Anyone know what Dennis Wakoop is doing these days?
Not much, as far as I can tell. I just wanted to mention that I find it funny that in his interviews Dennis always seems to downplay his involvement, saying something along the lines of "I'm not a ghost producer, it was always a team effort". But if you actually find and listen to some of his solo tracks (Denzel D for example), it becomes kind of obvious just how much he influenced Tiesto's sound in the early 2000s.
 

Progrez

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Not much, as far as I can tell. I just wanted to mention that I find it funny that in his interviews Dennis always seems to downplay his involvement, saying something along the lines of "I'm not a ghost producer, it was always a team effort". But if you actually find and listen to some of his solo tracks (Denzel D for example), it becomes kind of obvious just how much he influenced Tiesto's sound in the early 2000s.
He has an impressive list though these are all the track he is involved


  • Airscape - L'Esperanza [DJ Tiesto Remix]
  • Balearic Bill - Destination Sunshine (DJ Tiesto Power Mix) [HD]
  • Salt Tank - Eugina
  • Moontribe - Dance Of The Seventh Hill (Tiesto's Power Dub)
  • DJ Tiesto presents Allure ~ We Ran At Dawn [DJ Tiesto Remake
  • DJ Tiësto - Sparkles (Magikal Remake)
  • Subtle By Design — Sirius
  • Yahel — Open Your Mind
  • Yahel — Voyage
  • Yahel & Miss T — Going Up
  • You Take My Breath Away [DJ Tiesto Remix] - Sureal ( HQ )
  • Lunatic Asylum — Cabal
  • Sarah McLachlan — Sweet Surrender
  • Jaimy & Kenny D - Caught Me Running (Tiesto mix)
  • Green Court — Shining
  • Goldenscan — Sunrise
  • E.V.O - The Sound Of The Drums (Tiesto Remix)
  • DJ Jan Blaxo Liquid Ecstasy Dj Tiesto mix
  • Delerium - Silence (Tiësto Remix)
  • Aria - Willow [DJ Tiesto's Magikal Remake]
  • Schiller- Das Glockenspiel (Tiesto Remix)
  • DJ Tiesto - Magik Journey (DJ Tiesto's Old School Trance Mix)
  • Motorcraft -- When Time Will Come (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Kid Vicious - Re-Form (Dj Tiesto Mix)
  • Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Faithless - Tarantula (Tiesto Remix)
  • DuMonde - Never Look Back (Tiësto Full On Vocal Remix)
  • Delerium ~ Innocente (Tiesto Mix)
  • dave matthews band - The Space Between Tiesto Mix
  • Avalon - Can't Live A Day (Tiesto Remix)
  • Jurgen Vries ~ The Opera Song (Magik Muzik Mix)
  • Coast 2 Coast feat. Discovery - Home (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Johan Gielen presents Abnea ~ Velvet Moods (Tiesto Remix)
  • Umek - Gatex (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Svenson & Gielen - We Know What You Did (DJ Tiesto remix)
  • Saint Etienne - Action (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Paul Oakenfold - Southern Sun ( Tiesto Mix )
  • Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (DJ Tiesto Full Vocal Remix)
  • Moby - Extreme Ways DJ Tiesto Vocal Remix
  • Mauro Picotto - Pulsar (Tiësto Remix)
  • Lost Witness - Did I Dream (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Kosheen — Hungry
  • Junkie XL Breezer (DJ Tiësto Remix)
  • Conjure One - Tears From The Moon [ DJ Tiësto Mix ]
  • SKIN - FAITHFULNESS (Dj Tiesto Remix)
  • DJ Cor Fijneman Ft. Jan Johnston: Venus Tiesto Remix
  • Hampshire & Nysse ft. Nikita - Eternal Voices (Tiesto Alt Mix)
  • Drax & Scott Mac - Angel (Magik Muzik Remix)
  • Dreamcatcher - I Don't Wanna Lose My Way (Magik Muzik)
  • Radiohead - Street Spirit (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Madonna - Die Another Day (Tiesto remix)
  • Kane - Rain Down On Me (Tiësto Remix)
  • Cirque Du Soleil - Mer Noire ( Tiesto Remix ) 2004
  • BT - The Force Of Gravity (Tiesto Remix)
  • Allure - The Loves We Lost
  • Tiesto - Dance 4 Life (remix)
  • Jose Gonzalez - Crosses
  • Tiësto — In the Dark
  • Snow Patrol — Open Your Eyes
  • Imogen Heap — Hide & Seek
  • JES — Imagination
  • Justin Timberlake — LoveStoned/I Think She Knows
  • Tegan and Sara — Back in Your Head
  • Seal — The Right Life
  • Britney Spears — Piece of Me
  • Tiësto — Carpe Noctum
  • Cary Brothers — Ride
  • Jordin Sparks — No Air
  • Tarkan — Pare Pare
  • Tiësto pres. Alone in the Dark — Edward Carnby
  • Kanye West — Love Lockdown
  • Calvin Harris — I'm Not Alone
  • Calvin Harris - Century
  • Greenday - When september ends
  • Kevin Saunderson — Good Life
  • Muse — Resistance
  • Dada Life — Let's Get Bleeped Tonight
  • Mylène Farmer — C'est dans l'air
  • System F — Out of the Blue 2010
  • Ou Est Le Swimming Pool — These New Knights
  • Tiësto — In My Memory
  • Tiësto — Just Be
  • Blocparty
  • BLK JKS
  • Amy MacDonald — Spark
  • Priscilla Ahn - Strong
  • Faithless — Tweak Your Nipple
  • Dirty South — Phazing
  • Charlie Dée — Have It All
  • Robbie Rivera - We Live For The Music
  • Tiësto Feat. Calvin Harris - Century
  • Tiësto Feat. Kele Okereke - It's Not Things You Say
  • Traffic 2010
  • Coca Cola RMX
  • Moby - Shot in the Back of the Head
  • The Sound of Arrows - Nova
  • HIM - Love the Hardest Way
  • High Contrast
  • Anastacia - What can we do
  • Lune - Girls With Bangs
  • Salem (Tiesto remix)
  • Kaleidoscope mid-set mix
  • Tiesto - Clublife (Vegas intro)
  • Ostrega - First Scream (We aRe remix)
  • Sied van Riel - Audio 52
  • Freek de Jonge - Leven na de dood 2.0
  • Daniel Wanrooy feat. Blake Lewis - Stay in the moment
  • Daniel Wanrooy feat. Elliot Johns - Put yourself through this
  • Sied van Riel - In Awe
  • Wildboyz - All the boys (droppin' like dominos)
  • Slumber
  • Full Fillers - Sunscream
  • Full Fillers - Love & Kisses
  • Full Fillers - Around The Fence
  • Denzel D. - Bluster Of The Storm
  • Denzel D. - A Binary Star
  • Denzel D. - Theme Of Agony
  • Allure - Ever Enough
  • Lagan Valley - Antrim
  • D'alt Vila - Cameron Highlands
  • Magik Journey
  • Close To You
  • Dallas 4PM
  • In My Memory
  • Battleship Grey
  • Flight 643
  • Lethal Industry
  • Suburban Train
  • Forever Today
  • Love Comes Again
  • Traffic
  • Sweet Misery
  • Nyana
  • UR
  • Walking On Clouds
  • A Tear In The Open
  • Just Be
  • Adagio for Strings
  • Heroes
  • Breda 8pm
  • Ancient History
  • Traffic
  • Euphoria
  • Athena
  • Olympic Flame
  • Lethal Industry
  • Coming Home
  • Adagio for Strings
  • Victorious
  • Forever Today
  • Ten Seconds Before Sunrise
  • Everything (feat. JES)
  • Do You Feel Me (feat. Julie Thompson)
  • Carpe Noctum
  • Driving to Heaven
  • Sweet Things (additional production and mixing)
  • Break My Fall (feat. BT)
  • In the Dark (feat. Christian Burns)
  • Dance4life (feat. Maxi Jazz)
  • Elements of Life
  • Kaleidoscope" (feat. Jónsi)
  • Escape Me" (feat. C.C. Sheffield)
  • You Are My Diamond" (feat. Kianna)
  • I Will Be Here" (feat. Sneaky Sound System)
  • I Am Strong" (feat. Priscilla Ahn)
  • Here on Earth" (feat. Cary Brothers)
  • Always Near
  • It's Not The Things You Say" (feat. Kele Okereke)
  • Fresh Fruit
  • Century" (feat. Calvin Harris)
  • Feel It in My Bones" (feat. Tegan & Sara)
  • Who Wants to Be Alone" (feat. Nelly Furtado)
  • LA Ride
  • Bend It Like You Don't Care
  • Knock You Out" (feat. Emily Haines)
  • Louder Than Boom
  • Surrounded By Light
  • Organised Chaos
  • Tiesto - Efteling colaboration of “Aquanura” Efteling fountain show
  • Daniel Wanrooy - Slice of life (produced 2 tracks, mix & MSTR)
  • Heineken Starclub (ziggodome) Event - music production for show
  • JES — Two Souls (Waakop Reijers & Klauss Goulart Remix)
  • "September Sun"
  • "Coming Light"
  • "Mariestad" feat. Henrik B
  • "I Am"
  • "Peace"
  • "United States of Euphoria" (included on extended versions of the album)
  • Es Vedrá - "Hacienda"
  • Clear View featuring Jessica - "Tell Me"
  • The Veil Kings - "Searching For Truth"
  • Allure featuring Julie Thompson - "Somewhere Inside Of Me"
  • Taxigirl - "High Glow"
  • Steve Forte Rio - "A New Dawn"
  • Jedidja - "Dancing Water"
  • D'Alt Vila - "Breathing"
  • Banyan Tree - Feel The Sun Rise
  • Kamui - Get Lifted
  • Dokmai - Reason To Believe
  • Allure featuring Christian Burns - Power Of You
  • Clouded Leopard - Hua-Hin
  • Steve Forte Rio featuring JES - Blossom (Lounge Mix)
  • Manilla Rising - Beyond The Stars
  • Jes - “People Will Go" (Steve Forte Rio Remix)
  • Way Out West - “Don't Forget Me" (Guy Ehmetores Remix)
Source: Tracks | Dennis WR
 

Localized

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I came into the trance scene in 2008 and I recall everyone calling him a sellout even then. Admittedly I have heard very little of his discography and what little I have heard I haven't liked, both new and old.

For old I like Suburban Train and for new I like Boom.


Honestly I hold the same opinion on Armin too :V
 
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To be absolutely honest, I was never really that much of a big fan of Tiësto. I mean, he was fine from 1998 up 'till 2002, and that's pretty much it. And like some people already mentioned here he was never really into the music, realistically speaking he never even slightly produced a single thing and he only went to the Trance thing because it was starting to get big in the mid to late 90's and once the flame of Trance was gone he left, it's as simple as that.

Armin on the other hand just let the whole genre go massively downhill as of the last decade up to nowadays and he pretty much doesn't care, that's the truth.
 

TJY001

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He has an impressive list though these are all the track he is involved


  • Airscape - L'Esperanza [DJ Tiesto Remix]
  • Balearic Bill - Destination Sunshine (DJ Tiesto Power Mix) [HD]
  • Salt Tank - Eugina
  • Moontribe - Dance Of The Seventh Hill (Tiesto's Power Dub)
  • DJ Tiesto presents Allure ~ We Ran At Dawn [DJ Tiesto Remake
  • DJ Tiësto - Sparkles (Magikal Remake)
  • Subtle By Design — Sirius
  • Yahel — Open Your Mind
  • Yahel — Voyage
  • Yahel & Miss T — Going Up
  • You Take My Breath Away [DJ Tiesto Remix] - Sureal ( HQ )
  • Lunatic Asylum — Cabal
  • Sarah McLachlan — Sweet Surrender
  • Jaimy & Kenny D - Caught Me Running (Tiesto mix)
  • Green Court — Shining
  • Goldenscan — Sunrise
  • E.V.O - The Sound Of The Drums (Tiesto Remix)
  • DJ Jan Blaxo Liquid Ecstasy Dj Tiesto mix
  • Delerium - Silence (Tiësto Remix)
  • Aria - Willow [DJ Tiesto's Magikal Remake]
  • Schiller- Das Glockenspiel (Tiesto Remix)
  • DJ Tiesto - Magik Journey (DJ Tiesto's Old School Trance Mix)
  • Motorcraft -- When Time Will Come (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Kid Vicious - Re-Form (Dj Tiesto Mix)
  • Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Faithless - Tarantula (Tiesto Remix)
  • DuMonde - Never Look Back (Tiësto Full On Vocal Remix)
  • Delerium ~ Innocente (Tiesto Mix)
  • dave matthews band - The Space Between Tiesto Mix
  • Avalon - Can't Live A Day (Tiesto Remix)
  • Jurgen Vries ~ The Opera Song (Magik Muzik Mix)
  • Coast 2 Coast feat. Discovery - Home (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Johan Gielen presents Abnea ~ Velvet Moods (Tiesto Remix)
  • Umek - Gatex (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Svenson & Gielen - We Know What You Did (DJ Tiesto remix)
  • Saint Etienne - Action (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Paul Oakenfold - Southern Sun ( Tiesto Mix )
  • Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (DJ Tiesto Full Vocal Remix)
  • Moby - Extreme Ways DJ Tiesto Vocal Remix
  • Mauro Picotto - Pulsar (Tiësto Remix)
  • Lost Witness - Did I Dream (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Kosheen — Hungry
  • Junkie XL Breezer (DJ Tiësto Remix)
  • Conjure One - Tears From The Moon [ DJ Tiësto Mix ]
  • SKIN - FAITHFULNESS (Dj Tiesto Remix)
  • DJ Cor Fijneman Ft. Jan Johnston: Venus Tiesto Remix
  • Hampshire & Nysse ft. Nikita - Eternal Voices (Tiesto Alt Mix)
  • Drax & Scott Mac - Angel (Magik Muzik Remix)
  • Dreamcatcher - I Don't Wanna Lose My Way (Magik Muzik)
  • Radiohead - Street Spirit (DJ Tiesto Remix)
  • Madonna - Die Another Day (Tiesto remix)
  • Kane - Rain Down On Me (Tiësto Remix)
  • Cirque Du Soleil - Mer Noire ( Tiesto Remix ) 2004
  • BT - The Force Of Gravity (Tiesto Remix)
  • Allure - The Loves We Lost
  • Tiesto - Dance 4 Life (remix)
  • Jose Gonzalez - Crosses
  • Tiësto — In the Dark
  • Snow Patrol — Open Your Eyes
  • Imogen Heap — Hide & Seek
  • JES — Imagination
  • Justin Timberlake — LoveStoned/I Think She Knows
  • Tegan and Sara — Back in Your Head
  • Seal — The Right Life
  • Britney Spears — Piece of Me
  • Tiësto — Carpe Noctum
  • Cary Brothers — Ride
  • Jordin Sparks — No Air
  • Tarkan — Pare Pare
  • Tiësto pres. Alone in the Dark — Edward Carnby
  • Kanye West — Love Lockdown
  • Calvin Harris — I'm Not Alone
  • Calvin Harris - Century
  • Greenday - When september ends
  • Kevin Saunderson — Good Life
  • Muse — Resistance
  • Dada Life — Let's Get Bleeped Tonight
  • Mylène Farmer — C'est dans l'air
  • System F — Out of the Blue 2010
  • Ou Est Le Swimming Pool — These New Knights
  • Tiësto — In My Memory
  • Tiësto — Just Be
  • Blocparty
  • BLK JKS
  • Amy MacDonald — Spark
  • Priscilla Ahn - Strong
  • Faithless — Tweak Your Nipple
  • Dirty South — Phazing
  • Charlie Dée — Have It All
  • Robbie Rivera - We Live For The Music
  • Tiësto Feat. Calvin Harris - Century
  • Tiësto Feat. Kele Okereke - It's Not Things You Say
  • Traffic 2010
  • Coca Cola RMX
  • Moby - Shot in the Back of the Head
  • The Sound of Arrows - Nova
  • HIM - Love the Hardest Way
  • High Contrast
  • Anastacia - What can we do
  • Lune - Girls With Bangs
  • Salem (Tiesto remix)
  • Kaleidoscope mid-set mix
  • Tiesto - Clublife (Vegas intro)
  • Ostrega - First Scream (We aRe remix)
  • Sied van Riel - Audio 52
  • Freek de Jonge - Leven na de dood 2.0
  • Daniel Wanrooy feat. Blake Lewis - Stay in the moment
  • Daniel Wanrooy feat. Elliot Johns - Put yourself through this
  • Sied van Riel - In Awe
  • Wildboyz - All the boys (droppin' like dominos)
  • Slumber
  • Full Fillers - Sunscream
  • Full Fillers - Love & Kisses
  • Full Fillers - Around The Fence
  • Denzel D. - Bluster Of The Storm
  • Denzel D. - A Binary Star
  • Denzel D. - Theme Of Agony
  • Allure - Ever Enough
  • Lagan Valley - Antrim
  • D'alt Vila - Cameron Highlands
  • Magik Journey
  • Close To You
  • Dallas 4PM
  • In My Memory
  • Battleship Grey
  • Flight 643
  • Lethal Industry
  • Suburban Train
  • Forever Today
  • Love Comes Again
  • Traffic
  • Sweet Misery
  • Nyana
  • UR
  • Walking On Clouds
  • A Tear In The Open
  • Just Be
  • Adagio for Strings
  • Heroes
  • Breda 8pm
  • Ancient History
  • Traffic
  • Euphoria
  • Athena
  • Olympic Flame
  • Lethal Industry
  • Coming Home
  • Adagio for Strings
  • Victorious
  • Forever Today
  • Ten Seconds Before Sunrise
  • Everything (feat. JES)
  • Do You Feel Me (feat. Julie Thompson)
  • Carpe Noctum
  • Driving to Heaven
  • Sweet Things (additional production and mixing)
  • Break My Fall (feat. BT)
  • In the Dark (feat. Christian Burns)
  • Dance4life (feat. Maxi Jazz)
  • Elements of Life
  • Kaleidoscope" (feat. Jónsi)
  • Escape Me" (feat. C.C. Sheffield)
  • You Are My Diamond" (feat. Kianna)
  • I Will Be Here" (feat. Sneaky Sound System)
  • I Am Strong" (feat. Priscilla Ahn)
  • Here on Earth" (feat. Cary Brothers)
  • Always Near
  • It's Not The Things You Say" (feat. Kele Okereke)
  • Fresh Fruit
  • Century" (feat. Calvin Harris)
  • Feel It in My Bones" (feat. Tegan & Sara)
  • Who Wants to Be Alone" (feat. Nelly Furtado)
  • LA Ride
  • Bend It Like You Don't Care
  • Knock You Out" (feat. Emily Haines)
  • Louder Than Boom
  • Surrounded By Light
  • Organised Chaos
  • Tiesto - Efteling colaboration of “Aquanura” Efteling fountain show
  • Daniel Wanrooy - Slice of life (produced 2 tracks, mix & MSTR)
  • Heineken Starclub (ziggodome) Event - music production for show
  • JES — Two Souls (Waakop Reijers & Klauss Goulart Remix)
  • "September Sun"
  • "Coming Light"
  • "Mariestad" feat. Henrik B
  • "I Am"
  • "Peace"
  • "United States of Euphoria" (included on extended versions of the album)
  • Es Vedrá - "Hacienda"
  • Clear View featuring Jessica - "Tell Me"
  • The Veil Kings - "Searching For Truth"
  • Allure featuring Julie Thompson - "Somewhere Inside Of Me"
  • Taxigirl - "High Glow"
  • Steve Forte Rio - "A New Dawn"
  • Jedidja - "Dancing Water"
  • D'Alt Vila - "Breathing"
  • Banyan Tree - Feel The Sun Rise
  • Kamui - Get Lifted
  • Dokmai - Reason To Believe
  • Allure featuring Christian Burns - Power Of You
  • Clouded Leopard - Hua-Hin
  • Steve Forte Rio featuring JES - Blossom (Lounge Mix)
  • Manilla Rising - Beyond The Stars
  • Jes - “People Will Go" (Steve Forte Rio Remix)
  • Way Out West - “Don't Forget Me" (Guy Ehmetores Remix)
Source: Tracks | Dennis WR
Its an extremely impressive list (although missed Flying Squirrel Problem!). But out of that list, how many "Tiesto" remixes were the best versions? Maybe Tweek Your Nipple & the odd one or two. Even the original's mostly were ok, not amazing (some exceptions of course).
 

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I don't really care if he 20 years ago decided to go full EDM, I even like EDM to a certain extent. The real problem for me is that his EDM sets suck. For such a big name you would expect much better taste.
I heard one a few years ago and it was completely fucked up with a terrible flow and music selection. Hardwell for example is on a completely different level. Tiesto is mostly just the name.
 
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